2023 Aer Lingus Direct Entry Pilot
 

Any info about take home for type rated experienced A320 FOs? And time to move to A330 of experienced too?
good luck!

Its horrendous. You’ll be getting around 3 -3.5€K max per month.
edit: apologies, TR rated are around 4-4.3€K per month. The rest of my comments still apply
5-3 roster with 5-2 flex.
Most direct entries that joined are already leaving for better conditions. Its not a legacy company.
If you worked somewhere else before, you’ll be in for a big shock. You are nothing but a flap operator

What do you mean when you say flap operator? Your figures for the year one salary are accurate but the salary is on a yearly scale that increases. You're also not mentioning the 22% company pension contribution which is absolutely huge. Pay after a few years in the company is very good

Your posting the same nonsense on the 2022 thread so I'll repeat what I posted there.

Currently 7 years to left seat but things change.
Friendly flight deck environment, normally leg on leg off.
Hailing the Capt? It's Ireland not Korea.
Flap operator? Plenty of good training and other promotion ops.
Pension is to 60 although a lot less € than it was.
A small number of DEs have left.
Salary is on the low side for an expensive country but does climb quite well after five years.

It must be really fun sharing a cockpit with you if you ever been in one.

What about IALPA? I thought they took no nonsense?

Anyone got invited for the assessment in November?

didn't have any feedback yet. I don't know if they come back to you if you're unsuccessful at the online part though

I don't have any feedback either

Still waiting on response from online segment too.

posting to keep myself updated. same here, did the online test and no info yet

Round one of invites and PFOs go out tomorrow I'm told.

Nothing seen here

Has anyone heard anything yet?

Still nothing, any emails been received?

Yes, just got my pfo letter 🤷. Good luck for the others ;-)

Just got my invite to the assessment day, seems like a lot are going out today

Just after getting it

PFO here too...

Any news about how the selection process go? Does anyone know some information about the simulator too?
Thanks ;)

https://www.pilotjobsnetwork.com/job..._(ROI_Contract)

Some pilot inside can confirm if current situation, outlook and salaries are correct ?

Will pre COVID conditions regained soon?

Is time to command the same for everyone, as in still seniority based. Or is their any credit for experience

Purely seniority based. Previous experience is irrelevant.

Actually, to expand - all promotions and fleet changes are in seniority but you can find yourself getting LHS 320 or RHS 330 ‘sooner’ than expected if not everyone more senior than you wants that particular spot. The new short-haul skipper pay scale doesn’t interest everyone so people have been staying RHS 330 longer which has seen more and more junior RHS 320 people getting a shot a command earlier than expected. Similarly, FOs senior enough for part-time are slow to move fleets/go for command as they’ll then lose part-time. All this pushes the seniority cut-off for command lower.

How much worse is the new short haul captains scale? I'd heard about the 9% post covid cut but don't know anything about the new scale

The new scale isn’t a pay cut. It’s a pay limit. The pay is identical to the ‘ordinary’ scale all the way to year 19 at which point, annual increments stop. The reality being, by year 19, the vast majority of people will have had the opportunity to bid out of that scale onto a long haul fleet and the ordinary scale. This assumes continued growth and expansion, of course. Being a ‘short-haul’ captain places latitudinal and longitudinal restrictions on the duties you can be assigned and has, thus far, only served to reduce the flexibility of the pilot body to the airline.

Any information about the assessments these days in Dublin please?
good luck!!

Results
 

Hi, anyone know if EI contact with results of assessment as they go, or once all assessments/sims are completed?

I got a call for the sim where they told me I had passed the assesment so.far

W Well done on getting that far. I was more referring to job offer calls, any idea when they plan to make a decision

Has anyone who did the sim check had news? I got an email just before Christmas saying answers should go out mid to late January

I've heard a few calls with offers were made in mid December and a number of rejection emails sent out. The old saying 'no news is good news' applies. Last year my colleague got the call mid February. Best of luck

This page is for cadets applying for first job, not for DEC recruitment

The thread is titled direct entry??? There is a separate thread for cadets

Open again!!

Hope Nobox and AL HR teams don’t invite to Dublin 30 pilots for 4/5 positions available per day…
why?, because it’s money to spend and ticket, hotel, food, transport),if you ask for free days at your actual airline they would realize it’s to attend to a pilot selection event, and finally please if someone of you guys attend be gentle and try not to monopolize the group exercise please.
Also they told me there was “special treatment” for some of the guys/gals last year… understandable if they know someone inside but don’t look. So if I get the invitation I would have to think twice.

Anyway, good luck everybody in your dream to be part of a major !

anyone remember wich online test we have for the first part ?

Total waste of time and effort for a process which has a final "review" stage that ultimately turns into a who you know contest.

Yes, you can pass every stage then be dumped at this review, because the reviewers know someone who's uncle has had a word, and the positions are finite.

They kicked off the last process by telling everyone how not corrupt the process is. That says a lot.

A320LGW, there may be a little bit of starchy organic matter on your shoulder. EI not perfect but tell me how many legacy airlines in Europe have a dozen plus nationalities in the pilot body? Bulk of intake is now DEP so the 'cadet as the ideal' notion is a lot less now. Sure, one or two senior Capt's progeny make it in but the vast majority of new pilots have earned their seats through hard work and previous airline flying. It's still a very worthwhile career in a very decent airline.

A lot of airline pilot life is about personal interaction, life skills and awareness of others and sometimes of how you are perceived. Perhaps you need to think about that.

The pilots leaving the airline may beg to differ with you on how great it is.

My shoulders are clear thank you, along with my nose, which knows when it smells a rat.

One or two progeny make it in? You know, being an airline pilot entails being honest. I recommend you reflect on this crucial pilot quality.

Hi guys I received an email for the online assesment. Does anyone know what to expect? Thanks

Does anyone knows how many pilot they want to recruit this session and how many applicants we are ?

2024 direct entry pilot
 

Has anybody received an email for the third stage - interviews/assessment day as of yet? Or any idea when this might be