PPRuNe Forums

PPRuNe Forums (https://www.pprune.org/)
-   Interviews, jobs & sponsorship (https://www.pprune.org/interviews-jobs-sponsorship-104/)
-   -   MCC Simtech Dublin OR Sky4u Berlin RYANAIR. (https://www.pprune.org/interviews-jobs-sponsorship/616721-mcc-simtech-dublin-sky4u-berlin-ryanair.html)

Wallogui 29th Dec 2018 19:31

MCC Simtech Dublin OR Sky4u Berlin RYANAIR.
 
Dear colleages,

I am about to finish my CPL,IR and ME and I need to make an important decission in order to achieve my goal of becoming a Ryanair Pilot.

Next step in my formation is to choose one good and competent training center to take the MCC and if I can use ryanair sop's even better.

Both training centers are quite good and they count with a program to enhance your CV in the eyes of airliners as Ryanair.

If you need to choose Simtech in Dublin or Sky4u in Berlin, Which one would you choose and why?

pricewise it is the same, an APS MCC.

Thank you in advanced for your help and recommendations.

See you in the skies. :)

flyfan 30th Dec 2018 08:52

If you want to join Ryanair, then why don‘t you apply for the MCC APS they‘re offering themselves?

(Which is, in fact, provided by Sky4U - https://corporate.ryanair.com/news/r...ith-sky4u-ato/)

Wallogui 30th Dec 2018 14:44


Originally Posted by flyfan (Post 10347137)
If you want to join Ryanair, then why don‘t you apply for the MCC APS they‘re offering themselves?

(Which is, "this user is not allowed to share links until it reaches 10 post")

Thank you for the reply. Ryanair is not offering the MCC themself. They signed a collaboration agreement with both centers I mentioned Simtech and sky4u.
Furthermore, the one in Dublin has been collaborating for a long time already. But I would like to know if someone can offer an opinion based on experience or even just a critic, every input is much appreciated.

Thanks again for your comment.

Crist 1st Jan 2019 10:01

Hi guys,
i´ve read several things about the aps mcc but I don´t fully understand it. I know that the aps is now an addition to the previous mcc joc.
So if you attend that aps mcc, you will learn ryanair sop´s and afterwards? I guess you still have to do the full assessment but get a bonus as you did the aps mcc? And what if you fail at ryanair, is it not a disadvantage when you apply afterwards at other airlines and you did your mcc with ryanair sop´s?

And happy new year!

aviationfanatic 7th Jan 2019 09:38

Hey all,

If you are looking to complete an APS MCC with an official Ryanair partner go with Sky4u

https://www.sky4u-berlin.com/courses/aps-mcc-course/

Just to clarify, Ryanair has no affiliations or agreements with Simtech and never had.

Best of luck with your MCC

Moldu 30th Jan 2019 06:17

Hey folks,

I d like to try the assessment for the RYR APS MCC at Sky4u but I really don't know what to review...
They've mentioned 4 things : atpl assessment, English test, psychological test and psychotenic test.

Has anyone passed it already and can help us with his/her feedback?

sky4u_berlin 30th Jan 2019 18:38

APS-MCC assessment
 
Hello everyone,

A little insight into the APS-MCC assessment here at SKY4u in Berlin:
during your 1-day-test you may expect:
  1. psycholog. questionnaire
  2. mathematics test
  3. ATPL knowledge test
  4. psychometric testing
  5. assessment group exercise
  6. final interview
Specific preparation is not required, but we recommend that you address the following topics:
  1. English grammar and literal speech
  2. mathematics rule of three
  3. trigonometry
  4. percentage calculation
  5. geometry
  6. ATPL mainly operational content

You will receive a comprehensive introduction to the psychometric test procedures during the exam, and you will also have time to do some practice forehand of the respective measurement phase.
If you have ever heard of something like "Skytest" or "cut-e" and similar aptitude tests, then this what you may expect.

For the interview we are looking for a relaxed athmosphere, we would like you to be well prepared, have your logbook tidy, show us your passion for flying, be positive, self-confident without being over-confident, self reflecting and "properly dressed". We are seeking pilots in the role as first officers with the look into the future as airline captains...

We are conducting an assessment every week, preferably on Wednesday, occasionally on other days.
The APS-MCC course will start every week on Monday.
FAQ´s can be found on our website under "Courses" and "Airline Pilot Standard MCC".

Cheers,

the SKY4u team

chrivas.intl 16th Mar 2019 12:02

Hi, is there anyone who participated in ATTC SKY4U intake assessment to share his experience? If you have any more information other than what we can find in this post, please send pm.
thanks!

===================================

You can’t use the Private Messaging system, add url links or images until you have an established posting history.

aronsha 15th Apr 2019 23:18

Hi,
can you tell me a definite advantage of the APS MCC compared with a normal MCC? That justifies the higher price?

737crew 16th Apr 2019 21:39

simtech should be your 1st choice
 

Originally Posted by aronsha (Post 10448404)
Hi,
can you tell me a definite advantage of the APS MCC compared with a normal MCC? That justifies the higher price?

Simtech has a proven track record. Would definitely go for them. Price isn't much higher. Due diligence and then decide
​​​

ShamrockF 17th Apr 2019 11:03


Originally Posted by aronsha (Post 10448404)
Hi,
can you tell me a definite advantage of the APS MCC compared with a normal MCC? That justifies the higher price?

Normal JOC uses any jet aircraft. For example, Simtech use an XJ trainer which I think is a combination of 737 classic and CRJ. It's a bit of a mongrel. You'll learn generic procedures and settings.

An APS uses a specific aircraft type, for example Simtech use the 737-800 for their APS. They use the Boeing FCOMs and you'll spend your time studying the same aircraft Ryanair use. Also, you'll spend 40 hours on the sim (instead of 24 for the standard JOC) which will be helpful when you are going for your sim assessment in Ryanair.

To take it a step further, by going for the AFTA or Sky4u, Ryanair APS schemes, you'll spend your time learning specific Ryanair procedures and callouts. This leaves you in a much stronger position when going for a job at Ryanair. However, if you go somewhere else it may be of little use (depending on their aircraft type).

travis.karl 17th Apr 2019 11:23

why not TFC or other major ATOs
 

Originally Posted by aronsha (Post 10448404)
Hi,
can you tell me a definite advantage of the APS MCC compared with a normal MCC? That justifies the higher price?

I did my MCC at TFC Kaeufer and some additional stuff at Simtech. Was a good decision because the people introduced me to big major airlines, not only RYR. Definitely worth the money.
Simtech has a new full B737 FTD1

sky4u_berlin 17th Apr 2019 11:38

Hi!

If you would like to send us an email to [email protected] I would be happy to answer your questions :)

SKY4u

aronsha 17th Apr 2019 20:06

I'm not talking about flight schools in the first place, but about the APS MCC. IMO it makes no sense. Why pay more without any advantage during the screening process?

ShamrockF 18th Apr 2019 08:45


Originally Posted by aronsha (Post 10449889)
I'm not talking about flight schools in the first place, but about the APS MCC. IMO it makes no sense. Why pay more without any advantage during the screening process?

The advantage is you spend 40 hours instead of 24 in the sim. Also, the sim and procedures are usually specific to the Boeing 737-800 aircraft, not a generic jet. When you go for a sim assessment as part of Ryanair or another 737-800 operator you'll be much more comfortable and familiar with the aircraft. Also, when you go to do your type rating, you'll have a distinct advantage as you'll have spent a few weeks studying the 737-800 aircraft already.

GanjiGirl 18th Apr 2019 11:38

APS is no job guarantee
 

Originally Posted by aronsha (Post 10449889)
I'm not talking about flight schools in the first place, but about the APS MCC. IMO it makes no sense. Why pay more without any advantage during the screening process?

APS gives nobody any job guarantee. I'll just decided to do a MCC JOC at lower cost and I'll do it at Cockpit4u or TFC. These have a high reputation and many contacts at different airlines - not only one like RYR.

BoeingLudo737 18th Apr 2019 15:05


Originally Posted by GanjiGirl (Post 10450370)
APS gives nobody any job guarantee. I'll just decided to do a MCC JOC at lower cost and I'll do it at Cockpit4u or TFC. These have a high reputation and many contacts at different airlines - not only one like RYR.

So what airlines have Cockpit4u & TFC got contact with?

aronsha 18th Apr 2019 19:09


Originally Posted by ShamrockF (Post 10450251)
The advantage is you spend 40 hours instead of 24 in the sim. Also, the sim and procedures are usually specific to the Boeing 737-800 aircraft, not a generic jet. When you go for a sim assessment as part of Ryanair or another 737-800 operator you'll be much more comfortable and familiar with the aircraft. Also, when you go to do your type rating, you'll have a distinct advantage as you'll have spent a few weeks studying the 737-800 aircraft already.


I found an offer for MCC/JOC for less then 5200€ on full flight sim with Lufthansa!

Jolax 19th Apr 2019 19:51

Guys, does any of you have feedbacks about the APS MCC offered by AFTA?
I read that they have a partnership with Ryanair but their website doesn't have.more details.


travis.karl 19th Apr 2019 22:21


Originally Posted by Jolax (Post 10451498)
Guys, does any of you have feedbacks about the APS MCC offered by AFTA?
I read that they have a partnership with Ryanair but their website doesn't have.more details.

Just look at news dating 14.09.2018 -
Ryanair, Ireland’s No.1 airline, today (14 Sept) announced a major new training partnership with Cork-based international flight school, Atlantic Flight Training Academy (AFTA) to deliver the Ryanair/AFTA Mentored Pilot Programme. This new 16-month intensive training programme gives trainee pilots a structured path to achieve their pilot licence and reach a standard where they are ready…


All times are GMT. The time now is 17:32.


Copyright © 2018 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.