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Hawker400 2nd May 2019 22:00

This looks like a personal issue and was seen recently as negative spam with 3 different threads in the studies forum against bristol. Sky4u has an incredible amount of rapport with very experienced 737 rated pilots for preparation and checkrides. It's a rumour network after all, do your own research.

travis.karl 2nd May 2019 23:47

SKY4u - the inventors of aggressive marketing and defamation
 
5 points for sharing your thoughts in this thread! One recognizes whose spirit child you are. Now that you opened my eyes it's easy to count some of your aliases ShamrockF, BoeingLudo737, ollie135, Banana Joe, Reverserbucket, sky4u_berlin. Maybe more? Who knows?
As soon as there are other opinions coming up you start defaming. Not polite. Is this your way to deal with other opinions? Using your multiple accounts to insult others?
It's good to be everything but alone in this forum. There are witnesses here. And they have noticed your behavior, too.
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BoeingLudo737 3rd May 2019 08:00


Originally Posted by travis.karl (Post 10461592)
5 points for sharing your thoughts in this thread! One recognizes whose spirit child you are. Now that you opened my eyes it's easy to count some of your aliases ShamrockF, BoeingLudo737, ollie135, Banana Joe, Reverserbucket, sky4u_berlin. Maybe more? Who knows?
As soon as there are other opinions coming up you start defaming. Not polite. Is this your way to deal with other opinions? Using your multiple accounts to insult others?
It's good to be everything but alone in this forum. There are witnesses here. And they have noticed your behavior, too.
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So you think we are all the same person? you should get checked!

Banana Joe 3rd May 2019 08:23


Originally Posted by travis.karl (Post 10461592)
5 points for sharing your thoughts in this thread! One recognizes whose spirit child you are. Now that you opened my eyes it's easy to count some of your aliases ShamrockF, BoeingLudo737, ollie135, Banana Joe, Reverserbucket, sky4u_berlin. Maybe more? Who knows?
As soon as there are other opinions coming up you start defaming. Not polite. Is this your way to deal with other opinions? Using your multiple accounts to insult others?
It's good to be everything but alone in this forum. There are witnesses here. And they have noticed your behavior, too.
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Just because you might have had a bad experience it doesn't make it a bad place. It probably was your attitude.

BoeingLudo737 3rd May 2019 09:40


Originally Posted by Banana Joe (Post 10461782)
Just because you might have had a bad experience it doesn't make it a bad place. It probably was your attitude.

His attitude obviously says it all!

SpainHire 3rd May 2019 10:58


Originally Posted by travis.karl (Post 10461592)
5 points for sharing your thoughts in this thread! One recognizes whose spirit child you are. Now that you opened my eyes it's easy to count some of your aliases ShamrockF, BoeingLudo737, ollie135, Banana Joe, Reverserbucket, sky4u_berlin. Maybe more? Who knows?
As soon as there are other opinions coming up you start defaming. Not polite. Is this your way to deal with other opinions? Using your multiple accounts to insult others?
It's good to be everything but alone in this forum. There are witnesses here. And they have noticed your behavior, too.
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I am glad I'll never share a cockpit with someone of your temperament. I'm sure many others here agree.

flyhare 3rd May 2019 13:20

Hi there, I heard that bArtolini started making MCC/JOC - chekc their fb, but I want to ask smthing elese... can someone who did their MCC/JOC share with the materials they recevied? Im curios what do they give and teach at that cours...

GanjiGirl 4th May 2019 11:17

Sky4u, you seem to have the wrong attitude towards clients
 
And constant attacks from affiliated personae add to the impression that you work together to get rid of any opinion that doesn't suit you.
Now I'm a 100% glad not having chosen you for my MCC JOC.
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Jolax 4th May 2019 11:37


Originally Posted by flyhare (Post 10461999)
Hi there, I heard that bArtolini started making MCC/JOC - chekc their fb, but I want to ask smthing elese... can someone who did their MCC/JOC share with the materials they recevied? Im curios what do they give and teach at that cours...

They still have to start their first MCC/Joc.. How could someone share training materials??

travis.karl 4th May 2019 20:56


Originally Posted by sky4u_berlin;10461268... A good proof that this forum is sometimes really helpful for newbies and experienced pilots, but also - going by the name of it - in your case simply a "Professional [u
Rumour Network".

If it's just rumours, why are you putting so much effort in posting, attacking and distracting? What are you worried of? Your interest here is too high to be disregarded.

travis.karl 4th May 2019 21:39

My aim was to set things right
 
All
Some people here like ShamrockF wrote that Simtech's FBS is a mongrel or not really useful. And I've already replied that Simtech has a brand new FTD1 B737-800.
You still need proof? Here's the link and certificate:
http://simtech.ie/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/737-FNPT-II-comb.pdf
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https://simtech.ie/about-simtech/

And here's Sky4u's FBS, owned by their partner Sim4u:
​​​https://www.sim4u-berlin.com/en/simulator.php
Sim is a FNPT-2.

Now regarding the simulator quality that's a goal for simtech. And that was my starting point in this thread, because many posts weren't telling the actual facts.

Additionally APS MCC isn't required by law so why not aiming for a standard MCC JOC?
And for this course you can choose between FBS and FFS. For roughly 5000 Euro you get a MCC JOC on a B737 full flight at Cockpit4u as aronsha wrote earlier. Think about that. Or just go ask TFC Kaeufer or RWL for a good offer.

Best regards to all newbies and always make up your mind for alternatives. Always having a critical look will give you a better overview. In the end it's your money and you should invest it in the most useful way.
I'm out, leaving this thread for the time being.
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aronsha 6th May 2019 18:23

things are boiling up here for no reason
 
what I like: honest conversation with facts to prove opinions and statements.

what I don't like: a company that carries too far, distracting from key facts.

is this sky4u or a 5-year old that's being catched lying? if this is the real sky4u account you should stick to some pretty standard business guidelines. I've read your last postings and it's just embarassing and shady. ​​​​​​if you cannot accept the facts then stop blaming others for your own incompetence. take over responsibility or leave it. but stop your pathetic accusations. you continue posting this way ​you're making it worse. not professional at all

737fan 8th May 2019 17:05

i did my APS MCC at Sky4U. it was neither good nor bad. but the instructors did not practice same standards. some asked data about the aircraft... but why? this was no type rating. they often asked questions that were not in the syllabus and then blamed us for not learning enough.
but the office was always helpful whenever needed.

GREATFEMPILOT 8th May 2019 21:45

Reputation comes first
 
Direct comparison Simtech - Sky4u
A) reputation: Simtech was founded in 2004, Sky4u much later. Business is running, expanding constantly since then.
B) quality: simulators and instructors of simtech well known for top quality. Most Simtech students found an airline job and flying all around the world.
C) costs: training at Simtech is worth every penny even if little more expensive than Sky4u. The biggest extra is the wide range of airline contacts, that you can write to or call for further information on screemings. Not to forget the better and newer simulators.
The winner is clear: Simtech
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Ryanairrecruitment 9th May 2019 09:06

Hello everybody and i hope you are well. All Ryanair approved training partners can be found on our website and priority for assessment is given to those who have completed the approved mentored programme through said partners. Just to clarify that Simtech are NOT a Ryanair partner. In the future, given the volume of candidates we receive, only candidates who have completed an APS MCC with an approved partner (and we are currently in discussions with other APS MCC providers), will be considered for selection and we will update you all accordingly as to selected partners and cut-off dates to accept applications from non-approved partners.

BoeingLudo737 9th May 2019 10:48


Originally Posted by 737fan (Post 10466481)
i did my APS MCC at Sky4U. it was neither good nor bad. but the instructors did not practice same standards. some asked data about the aircraft... but why? this was no type rating. they often asked questions that were not in the syllabus and then blamed us for not learning enough.
but the office was always helpful whenever needed.

Hey,
Did you do a normal APS or the Ryanair Mentored APS?
Thanks

bh737 9th May 2019 11:04

Wowzers a lot of anger in these posts people! I am in the market for either an APS MCC or MCC/JOC at the moment having just completed my CPL/MEIR last week :-) . I'm visiting all the main players here, Simtech, VA, Sky4U and CAE. I want to see the facilities before I hand over my cash. I have a lot friends who went to Simtech Aviation given their tenure in the business and in fairness the feedback has been good. Simtech offered me to come and visit and will even my pay my flights from London to see it. They seem confident that I'll be impressed with the facility and instructors I am also meeting VA although they can't guarantee a spin in the sim :-( . I don't want to do a specific Ryanair APS for the main fact that I want generic SOP's in case I don't pass the Ryanair assessment. At the end of the day I am spending the guys of 6k whoever I go with. That's a lot of money so I want to be sure it's money well spent.

bh737 9th May 2019 11:23

Did you get into Ryanair?

anto125 9th May 2019 12:15


Originally Posted by flyhare (Post 10461999)
Hi there, I heard that bArtolini started making MCC/JOC - chekc their fb, but I want to ask smthing elese... can someone who did their MCC/JOC share with the materials they recevied? Im curios what do they give and teach at that cours...

I had a ride on that sim when I was there for my cpl module, The sim is really nice honestly.
They used to have also a nice 737 sim but appareantely they're not using it..not clear where it is now
At that time they told us they would have used both sims for the mcc/joc.

the mcc training manager is an a 320 captain, flew with small planet and seemed to be a competent and polite guy.
As others told you, no mcc has been completed yet, so it's impossible to find material

end of O/T

ionut92 10th May 2019 11:51

I went to Sky4U for the Ryanair APS MCC. The training was really good and the instructors were all RYR pilots. The S4U team really went above and beyond to cater to our needs and to help us whenever we had any difficulties. After I finished the training, I've uploaded my documents with CAE and they called me 2 days later to schedule the interview which happened about a week and a half after the phone call. Passed the interview in Dublin and will start type in July.

The simulator in Dublin is exactly the same as the one Sky4U is using. sky4u_berlin and Ryanairrecruitment can confirm that.

I really recommend Sky4U for their professionalism, dedication and work they put in. For me it was the best training experience so far.


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