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SunExpress Turkey
Hi Folks,
Been invited to attend the SunExpress MollyMawk test in Antalya with a view to progressing onto the sim and face to face interview. Has anyone here any previous experience with the company be it working or interview stage? Id be delighted to hear your thoughts. |
I have heard about this SunExpress company before. But honestly, don't know much about this one. Thanks!
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Hi guys!
Anyone received the invitation for 28 of june ? |
sun express is own by lufthansa and turkish 50% each, very good company to work. they pay €.
about antalya, such a nice city near the mediterranean sea. |
Compared to the stupid DLR, how hard is this Mollymawk test? I am really irritated about the fact that I have to buy it for limited practice runs.
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Also they have age limit of 35. Keep that in mind when you apply.
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Anyone starting the TR at the beginning of October?
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Originally Posted by Mlambin
(Post 10192381)
Anyone starting the TR at the beginning of October?
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Originally Posted by captain.weird
(Post 10192426)
Which base you got?
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Hi Guys,
- Which base could you expect for a DEC position? - How many days at home can you expect for a non commuting position? - What is the rent price of a nice apartment/house? - Is raw data flying allowed (without FDs)? Thank you and safe flights. |
I don’t think there is an age limit anymore, at least not in the official requirements for FOs and Captains on the SunExpress HR portal. There is only a minimum age limit of 21.
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Originally Posted by Smell the Coffee
(Post 10355822)
I don’t think there is an age limit anymore, at least not in the official requirements for FOs and Captains on the SunExpress HR portal. There is only a minimum age limit of 21.
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Is anyone going for the upcoming tests this March?
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I'm invited for Mollymawk test in Antalya on March 4.
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Originally Posted by Akum
(Post 10396757)
I'm invited for Mollymawk test in Antalya on March 4.
I´ve received an email with a link to an english test that lasts about 80 minutes. Anyone knows what to expect during this english assessment? |
Yes,I did it few weeks ago.My advice,go to the ITEP main page and do test run of the test.Real test will be almost the same,but bigger and with little time limit given to do excercise.
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Originally Posted by lhc7664
(Post 10397424)
Did you do an english test online before being invited for the Mollymawk test?
I´ve received an email with a link to an english test that lasts about 80 minutes. Anyone knows what to expect during this english assessment? they require 3,5 in the writing, reading, grammar and listening. It is not so difficult. kinds |
Thanks for your replies.
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Hi guys,
I'm too invited to psyhometric tests on 4 of march in Antalya. English test is not so hard. Regards |
Originally Posted by pilotsaad
(Post 10397720)
Hi!
they require 3,5 in the writing, reading, grammar and listening. It is not so difficult. kinds Hopefully we can meet up on March 4! |
Originally Posted by Vaero
(Post 10398152)
Also speaking!
Hopefully we can meet up on March 4! I am coming to do my test soon. Kinds |
Congrats with the invitation guys! Is SunExpress providing tickets or are you on your own when it comes to transport/accommodation during the various stages in the assessment? Also, does anyone know anything about the t&c’s for non type rated f/o’s joining SunExpress? How does the bond work, are there any salaries during type rating, does company supply accommodation during training etc.? Any answers are much appreciated! Thanks, |
Hey !
On the website, do you recommend to do the highschool level or college ? |
Originally Posted by lhc7664
(Post 10398871)
Congrats with the invitation guys! Is SunExpress providing tickets or are you on your own when it comes to transport/accommodation during the various stages in the assessment? Also, does anyone know anything about the t&c’s for non type rated f/o’s joining SunExpress? How does the bond work, are there any salaries during type rating, does company supply accommodation during training etc.? Any answers are much appreciated! Thanks, Bond for 3 years, 2.5k eur plus BH from 75. |
Originally Posted by NicolaiN
(Post 10399334)
Hey !
On the website, do you recommend to do the highschool level or college ? |
Originally Posted by diadingo
(Post 10399530)
They do provide tickets for their flights. Accomodation is 45 eur a night with their discount.
Bond for 3 years, 2.5k eur plus BH from 75.
Originally Posted by diadingo
(Post 10399530)
They do provide tickets for their flights. Accomodation is 45 eur a night with their discount.
Bond for 3 years, 2.5k eur plus BH from 75. |
To answer my own question, the ITEP english test wasn´t to bad. Pretty much the same as the free preview test on their webpage.
Anyone recently employed as non type rated/low hour pilot on their bond? I´d like to ask a few questions as I´m about to do the Mollymawk. Cheers, |
Originally Posted by Akum
(Post 10396757)
I'm invited for Mollymawk test in Antalya on March 4.
Originally Posted by pilot1997
(Post 10397868)
Hi guys,
I'm too invited to psyhometric tests on 4 of march in Antalya. English test is not so hard. Regards
Originally Posted by Vaero
(Post 10398152)
Also speaking!
Hopefully we can meet up on March 4! What is the pass rate ? Nicolai |
Originally Posted by NicolaiN
(Post 10406485)
I would love to hear how it went and if you got any advice for the Mollymawk test ?
What is the pass rate ? Nicolai |
Originally Posted by Akum
(Post 10406525)
Pass rate 0%,today was 5 guys, all failed.
Any details would be much appreciated. Like how was the actual tests compared to the trial runs on the Mollymawk page? Did you do any additional training - for instance used the atpl.tv for math and science preparation? |
Originally Posted by Akum
(Post 10406525)
Pass rate 0%,today was 5 guys, all failed.
I would also like to know, if you all failed on the same topics or just overall ? did they tell you anything ? :) |
Hi folks.
I can affirm, that were 5 guys, pass rate 0%. Exam test is harder then practise test. I didn't practise any other tests except mollymawk, but the tests it self are pretty hard and mollymawk given practise attemps are not enough. And pass rate for every test for sunexpress is very very high, many guys even can get that high results in practise tests. Regards |
Originally Posted by pilot1997
(Post 10407498)
And pass rate for every test for sunexpress is very very high, many guys even can get that high results in practise tests. |
Yikes! That isn't reassuring at all. What do you mean by "harder than practice" - what was? The Math/Physics or the Working Memory, Spatial Orientation, etc?
Originally Posted by Akum
(Post 10406525)
Pass rate 0%,today was 5 guys, all failed.
Originally Posted by pilot1997
(Post 10407498)
Hi folks.
I can affirm, that were 5 guys, pass rate 0%. Exam test is harder then practise test. I didn't practise any other tests except mollymawk, but the tests it self are pretty hard and mollymawk given practise attemps are not enough. And pass rate for every test for sunexpress is very very high, many guys even can get that high results in practise tests. Regards |
Originally Posted by AirInter
(Post 10355625)
Hi Guys,
- Which base could you expect for a DEC position? - How many days at home can you expect for a non commuting position? - What is the rent price of a nice apartment/house? - Is raw data flying allowed (without FDs)? Thank you and safe flights. For DEC you will get either Ankara (ESB) or Istanbul (SAW). Dont even dream about Antalya or Izmir. For non commuting you going to fly a lot at summer period , let say from april till october. And max what you can get is 3 days in a row and its not for sure. As well keep in mind that from ESB and SAW you will fly 99% of 4 sectors days. The only good thing is almost no night flights. At winter(I think from november till march) they just introduced 5 days in a row, which you will get every month. The prices in Istanbul and Ankara for now not really sure. But of course its all depends on your standards... But I guess for decent apartment you might expect around 4000-6000 lira , which is around 600-1000EUR. Raw data is totally no problem. From that point of view SXS is quite relaxed. Just stay in the margins and its ok. |
Just wanted to give a bit of an insight into my experience with SXS recruitment. So to begin with there is the ITEP which is not difficult at all whether you are a native English speaker or not if you have level 4 or above English you should be able to pass this. Then comes the first visit to Antalya to take the Mollymawk’s (you do have to pay for these tests by the way folks), again these are not the most difficult of aptitude tests! Yes you do need to practice or you will indeed fail them but when I did mine most of the guys passed and here’s the other bonus...if you do happen to fail them they will give you the chance to re-take them so failing the Mollymawk’s isn’t an instant out! After the you have the Mollymawk results you will be invited to a simulator assessment in Antalya again. This assessment is undertaken in a Level D 737-800 sim and the HR team will issue you with a simulator assessment guide so you can study and practice in the run up to the assessment. There are no surprises with the assessment and for guys fresh out of flight school there aren’t any failures to deal with either. You will pass this assessment if you have good handling skills but you must also be a good crew member, if the SXS pilot that is sat next to you points something out tell them you’re correcting and correct it!! They are looking for perfection they are looking for a good crew member with a reasonable flying ability. You will find out within a couple of days if you have been successful (at this stage I would guess the pass rate is around 50% or so) Once you have passed this you will then make a third and final visit to Antalya for the interview. I cannot stress enough that you must study for this!! (I found Ace the Technical Pilot Interview book to be extremely helpful as it gives you the perfect basis of knowledge to be successful in this interview). Regarding the interview format you will begin with some questions from HR which delves into your background and how you find yourself sat in front of the interviewers today. After this come the technical questions, expect some these to be related back to what you wrote on the self presentation document as it seems they are wanting to see not only what you have learnt from your ATPLs but also from past experiences, I was also given a few quick fire mental arithmetic questions and ATC read backs to complete. Then comes the psychologist (Melina Rauch - Owner of the Mollymawk tears) she is a very nice person and will just ask you a few questions to try and get an idea of your personality, nothing too difficult, just be honest and this part will be the easiest of the interview. After this is finished they will ask you to leave the room whilst the deliberate, within 5 to 10 minutes you will be called back in and you will find out there and then if you have been successful, whether you are or aren’t they will give you a debrief and offer you advice to take forward with you. I will say I have been lucky and I am due to start in autumn subject to my work permit being approved (shouldn’t be a problem there but always be cautious) but this has been one of the most straightforward recruitment processes I have been through. There is a lot of time for you to prepare yourself thoroughly and if you do prepare yourself thoroughly then there is no reason that you shouldn’t be able to pass all stages and be offered a position flying 737-800s! You will find everyone that you come into contact with at SXS cannot help you enough and they are probably the most friendly team of recruiters I have encountered. If anyone wants to know anymore or anyone is starting in autumn feel free to PM me! |
Originally Posted by PilotLew
(Post 10482786)
Just wanted to give a bit of an insight into my experience with SXS recruitment. So to begin with there is the ITEP which is not difficult at all whether you are a native English speaker or not if you have level 4 or above English you should be able to pass this. Then comes the first visit to Antalya to take the Mollymawk’s (you do have to pay for these tests by the way folks), again these are not the most difficult of aptitude tests! Yes you do need to practice or you will indeed fail them but when I did mine most of the guys passed and here’s the other bonus...if you do happen to fail them they will give you the chance to re-take them so failing the Mollymawk’s isn’t an instant out! After the you have the Mollymawk results you will be invited to a simulator assessment in Antalya again. This assessment is undertaken in a Level D 737-800 sim and the HR team will issue you with a simulator assessment guide so you can study and practice in the run up to the assessment. There are no surprises with the assessment and for guys fresh out of flight school there aren’t any failures to deal with either. You will pass this assessment if you have good handling skills but you must also be a good crew member, if the SXS pilot that is sat next to you points something out tell them you’re correcting and correct it!! They are looking for perfection they are looking for a good crew member with a reasonable flying ability. You will find out within a couple of days if you have been successful (at this stage I would guess the pass rate is around 50% or so) Once you have passed this you will then make a third and final visit to Antalya for the interview. I cannot stress enough that you must study for this!! (I found Ace the Technical Pilot Interview book to be extremely helpful as it gives you the perfect basis of knowledge to be successful in this interview). Regarding the interview format you will begin with some questions from HR which delves into your background and how you find yourself sat in front of the interviewers today. After this come the technical questions, expect some these to be related back to what you wrote on the self presentation document as it seems they are wanting to see not only what you have learnt from your ATPLs but also from past experiences, I was also given a few quick fire mental arithmetic questions and ATC read backs to complete. Then comes the psychologist (Melina Rauch - Owner of the Mollymawk tears) she is a very nice person and will just ask you a few questions to try and get an idea of your personality, nothing too difficult, just be honest and this part will be the easiest of the interview. After this is finished they will ask you to leave the room whilst the deliberate, within 5 to 10 minutes you will be called back in and you will find out there and then if you have been successful, whether you are or aren’t they will give you a debrief and offer you advice to take forward with you. I will say I have been lucky and I am due to start in autumn subject to my work permit being approved (shouldn’t be a problem there but always be cautious) but this has been one of the most straightforward recruitment processes I have been through. There is a lot of time for you to prepare yourself thoroughly and if you do prepare yourself thoroughly then there is no reason that you shouldn’t be able to pass all stages and be offered a position flying 737-800s! You will find everyone that you come into contact with at SXS cannot help you enough and they are probably the most friendly team of recruiters I have encountered. If anyone wants to know anymore or anyone is starting in autumn feel free to PM me! I´ve tried to reach you but your folder is full.. |
PilotLew what level of physics and mathematics did you encounter in the Mollymawk test?
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I have been contacted by them via email, saying that I will receive a firstly a phone interview.
has this happened to you too ? How long does it take roughly the whole process ? |
Originally Posted by PilotLew
(Post 10482786)
You will find everyone that you come into contact with at SXS cannot help you enough and they are probably the most friendly team of recruiters I have encountered. If anyone wants to know anymore or anyone is starting in autumn feel free to PM me! I passed the interview and are starting in autumn. have you heard anything after the interview ? Your inBox is full |
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