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Anyone going on the 29th of August for the mollymawk?

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Originally Posted by Prospective_Pilot (Post 10549527)

B77WPilot Hey I've been invited for the Mollymawk assessment on the 27 as well. Are you using any other preparation software for the 3 aptitude tests (Time Sharing, Working Memory, Spatial Orientation) apart from the official site itself? Thanks.

I highly recommend that you check out ATPL.tv

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Originally Posted by stoneangel (Post 10550034)

I think it's true, they ask turkish nationality...
It is similar with air astana : they hire through agency, and in the ads you see NTR pilots and then suddenly they ask Type rated !
something wrong somewhere

you are not required to be from Turkey to apply or get the job

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Originally Posted by James Ken McIntosh (Post 10549421)

Looking at PJN

your required to have a

University Degree
Be a Turkish Citizen

is is it true?

No, look at the requirements on SXS own website.
neither an university degree or Turkish nationality is required

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Originally Posted by stoneangel (Post 10548330)

yeah but, nowadays, some online tests could be done from home....no need to pollute the air more than necessary, don't think so? it's nonsense. What's the technology for ?
Yes you're right, Im sure Snexpress is flexible and let its pilots to leave anytime on request to take any selection as well.

They want you to go to Turkey.. If you cant take the time out to go there and do they test, then you should not apply. You will be asked to do an online english test beforehand.

The mollymawk is just like a DLR or IP-BQ tests.
You can only do them at the test centre, so everyone is doing it at the same time, in the same environment, with the same equipment.

The airplane is flying with or without you .. might as well be on it ..

Just a quickie,
Any idea on the purpose of OSM Aviation in the recruitment process?

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Originally Posted by PilotLew (Post 10482786)

Just wanted to give a bit of an insight into my experience with SXS recruitment.

So to begin with there is the ITEP which is not difficult at all whether you are a native English speaker or not if you have level 4 or above English you should be able to pass this.

Then comes the first visit to Antalya to take the Mollymawk’s (you do have to pay for these tests by the way folks), again these are not the most difficult of aptitude tests! Yes you do need to practice or you will indeed fail them but when I did mine most of the guys passed and here’s the other bonus...if you do happen to fail them they will give you the chance to re-take them so failing the Mollymawk’s isn’t an instant out!

After the you have the Mollymawk results you will be invited to a simulator assessment in Antalya again. This assessment is undertaken in a Level D 737-800 sim and the HR team will issue you with a simulator assessment guide so you can study and practice in the run up to the assessment. There are no surprises with the assessment and for guys fresh out of flight school there aren’t any failures to deal with either. You will pass this assessment if you have good handling skills but you must also be a good crew member, if the SXS pilot that is sat next to you points something out tell them you’re correcting and correct it!! They are looking for perfection they are looking for a good crew member with a reasonable flying ability. You will find out within a couple of days if you have been successful (at this stage I would guess the pass rate is around 50% or so)

Once you have passed this you will then make a third and final visit to Antalya for the interview. I cannot stress enough that you must study for this!! (I found Ace the Technical Pilot Interview book to be extremely helpful as it gives you the perfect basis of knowledge to be successful in this interview). Regarding the interview format you will begin with some questions from HR which delves into your background and how you find yourself sat in front of the interviewers today. After this come the technical questions, expect some these to be related back to what you wrote on the self presentation document as it seems they are wanting to see not only what you have learnt from your ATPLs but also from past experiences, I was also given a few quick fire mental arithmetic questions and ATC read backs to complete. Then comes the psychologist (Melina Rauch - Owner of the Mollymawk tears) she is a very nice person and will just ask you a few questions to try and get an idea of your personality, nothing too difficult, just be honest and this part will be the easiest of the interview. After this is finished they will ask you to leave the room whilst the deliberate, within 5 to 10 minutes you will be called back in and you will find out there and then if you have been successful, whether you are or aren’t they will give you a debrief and offer you advice to take forward with you.

I will say I have been lucky and I am due to start in autumn subject to my work permit being approved (shouldn’t be a problem there but always be cautious) but this has been one of the most straightforward recruitment processes I have been through. There is a lot of time for you to prepare yourself thoroughly and if you do prepare yourself thoroughly then there is no reason that you shouldn’t be able to pass all stages and be offered a position flying 737-800s!

You will find everyone that you come into contact with at SXS cannot help you enough and they are probably the most friendly team of recruiters I have encountered. If anyone wants to know anymore or anyone is starting in autumn feel free to PM me!

Hi PilotLew!,

You've been kind for all your information. Could you give me more details about maths, science and english, please ?

Hello guys..
does anybody have an email address for the recruitment team?
I need to contact them.

thanks

Hey guys,

I got the impresion of the final stage interview pass rate to be quite high based on the positive results/feedbacks written on SXS related forums, coz never read about anyone getting rejected. So is it the case or only people who got the positive answer cared to talk about it while other fellows with negative results don't care to share their thoughts?
And how about the type rating course? did anyone from this year's intake finally start after this long waiting time or still waiting? Any more info/schedule given by the company?

Cheers

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Originally Posted by Prospective_Pilot (Post 10549527)

Hey, how did it go?

Hi guys !
Does anyone know if a recently passed DLR could be recognised in place of the Mallymawk test ?
Because in the initial stage of my application I ticked "No DLR taken".
Now I have recently passed it for another airline.
It would be great !

Thanks

Hi guys anyone here that is starting type rating in december?
Cheers

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Originally Posted by miguelcosta1 (Post 10565155)

Hi guys anyone here that is starting type rating in december?
Cheers

I start on 21st October.

Anyone else out there starting on 21st October?

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Originally Posted by PilotLew (Post 10565495)

I start on 21st October.

Anyone else out there starting on 21st October?

I´m starting the 21st as well.

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Originally Posted by PilotLew (Post 10565495)

I start on 21st October.

Anyone else out there starting on 21st October?

Have we met before?

Where you back at HQ in March ?

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Originally Posted by PilotLew (Post 10565495)

I start on 21st October.

Anyone else out there starting on 21st October?

Do you have any idea of how many people per course though?
Start in december the type rating and would be nice to know someone else in the same situation as me before that. A friend of mine is starting in November.
Cheers

Hey guys, recently applied for the NTR FO on the Sun Express Website. Its been 3 weeks since I sent my application.
Does anyone know how long they take to respond.

Thanks

Does anyone know the conditions after employed?

Take home pay after and before TR?
Rooster?
Free Tickets?
Commuting?

Hi Guys,

In regards with the Math and Science questions, is a calculator allowed to be used?

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Originally Posted by vatir (Post 10652383)

Hi Guys,

In regards with the Math and Science questions, is a calculator allowed to be used?

No, that is not allowed

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Originally Posted by OldDreamer (Post 10652180)

Does anyone know the conditions after employed?

Take home pay after and before TR?
Rooster?
Free Tickets?
Commuting?

The conditions in SunExpress has improved considerably from the start of this year.

Full salary from day 1 of type rating. Hotel and transportation is arranged by the company during training.
Basic salary has increased compared to the numbers in pilotjobsnetwork - Paid annual leave has almost doubled.
The roster has improved considerably as well - during summer months everyone is guaranteed 4 consecutive days off, and in the winter months 5 consecutive days off. There is a request system, so you can request which days you´ll prefer off the next month.

The type rating is "self-sponsored". You don´t pay anything up front, but they will deduct your salary each month for a 3 year period. BUT after 3 years - if you stay in the company - they will pay the full type rating cost back in installments for the next 3 or 4 years. I´m not 100% sure how the payback will be and over how long a period as this is still very new.

SunExpress has a pretty good deal with MyId travel for you, your partner, kids, parents and siblings.

Upgrades for command after 3 years.

All in all a pretty good company! Salaries are net, so all the numbers are take home pay. Considering the living expenses in Turkey you can have a really good life here!

Thanks lhc7664 for the details ! Big improvements indeed.

Is this for new joiners only ?
Do you have any idea when the next round of type ratings will be ?

Cheers

Anyone had recent assessments here and how did they go, thanks!

Just received an email from Sunexpress HR stating that they dont need any more pilots.

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Originally Posted by Kaillou (Post 10690490)

Just received an email from Sunexpress HR stating that they dont need any more pilots.

How far are you in the process?

Nowhere, i just applied on their website 2 months ago. I updated my profile again yesterday and received a message today saying that i have the requirements but they don't need more people for now.

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Originally Posted by Kaillou (Post 10690516)

Nowhere, i just applied on their website 2 months ago. I updated my profile again yesterday and received a message today saying that i have the requirements but they don't need more people for now.

Ah ok, that's true. They froze the recruitment process. In my case, I passed the simm assessment and was waiting for an interview date.. But now I (and a few more) have to wait untill the MAX will fly again.

hi guys,

Im in the same situation as r0zvram . Passed the sim and now waiting for the MAX to be approved so that they can conduct the interviews (hopefully). Can anyone share their interview experience in detail? I'd highly appreciate the help. Thanks.