Michael249 - I'm in the same position as you in terms of waiting for dates for the non-technical assessment day at Dibden Manor! I really hope that come January 2018, they still have enough places left on one of the three airline tagged routes!

-Does anyone have any information on whether it is possible to apply for the BA Cadet Programme while having applied to Gen easyJet already?

-Also, does the BA Programme feature a re-payment of the £69,000 Training Security Bond like the Gen easyJet Programme does?

-And lastly, if I passed the technical assessment for Gen easyJet, do I need to re-take the same test (and pay another £295) for the BA Programme? It is highly likely that those two tests will be within 6 months of each other.

Many thanks for any info.

I sent an email to the team asking these very questions and so far have received a response on the first point.

You can only have one application open at any one time.

I will let you know when I hear back on the latter but from my understanding there are some additional online tests with BA before you are passed to L3. Situational judgement and numerical test as per the BA job advert.

They did say that I could ‘transfer’ my application but I have asked for clarity on what that means given the extra tests.

Way back in June when I originally applied I asked this question to the careers team and was told you can't have more than 1 active application at any one time. So if you want to apply for the BA programme then you must withdraw your EZY one.

Correct. I just asked the selection team directly today, Their database will flag you as having two open at the same time and then you will be contacted to choose one or the other. No part of either airline scheme is transferable either, each is treated as its own application.

Yes they said to wait until the new year for spots on stage 3 to be available. Just happ3ns that there's none until then

Yep, the one application at any one time is airline specific I think, probably to reduce the number of people applying to numerous schemes at the same time. Think it's been that way for some time now, and was definitely the case at the beginning of the year, when I first applied to easyJet.

I recall the BA FPP bond being 84,000? Given that BA is £115,000, £6,000 more than easyJet, the bond may be slightly bigger too?

I think transferring results only applies when transferring from Airline to whitetail, if say you fail an element of the airline process... airlines have different pass marks, so think you'll need to pay the £295 and re-do everything sadly mate.

Well done for passing the technical, that was the hardest part for me personally, the interview and group ex was on the whole a pretty chilled day!

Yeah I agree with you there . I'm looking forward to the interview and group work more than the technical . Do you know if there is another stage after stage 3?

Hi mate, I am in more or less the same position as you. Were you with OAA or L3? I am still awaiting route allocation but fear that route 4/whitetail news is now inevitable. :hmm:

hey, do you know if i did the whitetail selection before generation EZY was open and passed it they can transfer the results to generation or will i need to go trough the all selection process again?

You'll need to do it again sadly, buddy. You may only need to pay the re-application fee (£168) to re-do the Maths, PILAPT, Group Ex and Interview, but as it's a totally different scheme, and airline sponsored, you'll likely need to pay £295 again!

What kind of start dates are people receiving at the moment? When I went for my medical there was someone there who mentioned about being told about available start dates currently being in March/April, is this correct?

thisishomebrand, o_rey28 and ec_2017 - thanks so much for the information you have provided!

I'm actually visiting L3 this weekend for their open day. If anyone has any other questions they would like me to ask, just let me know. I'll post any useful information I find out on here once I'm back.

I got told in late September it could be January but recently I got told first quarter of 2018, guessing the monarch situation has impacted the dates Easyjet are giving L3.

Yep. They're only interested in selling their whitetail course

Hi mate, Mine was with L3. The wait was terrible

Just to let you all know, L3 have just added a date for the non-technical assessment. It is in early January 2018.

Thankfully I just checked this forum and seen your post that they added an assessment 2 day . I just booked up go it . It's January 8th 2018. I booked straight away as I'd be afraid of when the next one could be..... if anyone else is going for this day too let me know!

Thanks for the heads up.

Good luck everyone

Hi,

Please could you tell me what to expect for the first assessment day at Dibden Manor. Also, the dress code says that 'most candidates wear a suit for the selection process', as it is now split up into two days, is a suit required for just the tests. I know the last question seems odd, but I don't want to be the only one wearing a suit or the only one not wearing a suit.

The first say at dibden is all about maths and pilapt.the maths is basic arithmetic such as 25x12 and then moves onto addition and subtraction . There are currency conversions e.g.how much is $70 in £s if £1 = €1.20 €1=$1.30

Then you move onto pilapt which is the the pilot aptitude test . Maybe practice using a joystick but I wouldn't advise paying for tests online . You either have it or you don't . I didn't bother practicing this section and I passed .

And yes I'd recommend wearing a suit. The day I went there were 24 people in 3 different groups and everyone was wearing a suit including myself so it's a must.

Any other questions let me know !

For my easyJet days a few months back, there were 12 people for the non tech day and 12 for the tech day. I'd say 10 out of 12 on both days wore suits, with the remaining wearing business casual... attire should be smart, and i'd say a suit is recommended, it's easier to look less smart if you go in a suit (and they encourage you to take off jackets and take off ties), but if you go in jeans and a shirt, looking smarter can be tricky - dress to impress, first impressions mean a lot. There are various cadet blogs online that outline the selection process... best of luck!

I got offered an assessment for MPL level 1, but am currently unsure about pursuing it. I understand that the BBVA loan is currently in its final stages of termination.

I am right in thinking that you have to stump up the initial (or mostly) yourself upfront?

Hi,
I attended the stage 2 assessment at CAE on 24th October. I just wondered how long it normally takes to hear back if you’ve been successful or not? Or if anyone else attended around the same time as me, have you heard anything yet?
Thanks in advance.

just had an email telling me i’ve passed stage 3 and welcoming me to the ‘Generation easyJet and CAE Oxford Aviation Academy pilot training programme’, however they did say (after 6 weeks already) that they are still finalising my route, and the guy on the phone also said that i could still be offered whitetail, or ‘route 4’ as they bill it, even though only 15% of applicants were successful. do any of you guys know how long do they normally take to finalise a route? would be gutted to get whitetail

Many thanks for everyones help!

So on Day 1, is it only tests? I'm guessing there are no interviews until you get accepted onto Day 2?

Has anyone been given a start date recently? Seems to have gone a bit quiet on that front.

Well BBVA didn’t go to plan... now looking at high street lenders. Has anyone had any luck with a particular bank?

Could you let me know if you hear or find out anything?

I am nervously waiting for stage one tomorrow at Dibden and was wondering what to expect.

I have previous flying experience in the form of 200 hours in South Africa and was wondering if this stands me in good stead or could hinder me. I imagine most people are ab initio but I will be competing against some pretty high calibre individuals who know a lot more about the European aviation climate than I do. I guess it's just going to be maths and joystick stuff to start with?

And I guess a suit will be mandatory. Better to be over dressed than under dressed ;)

If you have 200 hours, surely you could just convert those to a UK licence, complete the ATPL theory, obtain a CPL/ME/IR and JOC, all for less than a third of the price Easyjet/L-3 are charging?

If Easyjet were taking the financial risk, it might be worth going for it but unfortunately they are not. There's a thread in the Professional Pilot Training part of the Wannabes forum about CTC with a PPL you may wish to take a look at. It does involve a Whitetail student but nontheless worth a read.

A suit would be a good idea.

I've only been in the UK for a few weeks and haven't flown for nearly a decade. The myriad of options is overwhelming and I'll be exploring all routes, but I like the relitively linear approach to an airline job, although you are right, I'd be paying through the nose for it.

Just got back from day one. It was friendly and well organised. There was some tricky maths and long division. I kind of have no idea if it went well or not. It's strange, the aptitude was tough and is designed to be apparently, with captains and FOs struggling with it all the time. The coordination tests were realistic as to what you would expect flying a plane IRL, like following a glidescope and localiser manually (whilst counting down in fours or threes from 497!) I'd say if you have a few hundred quid to spend, if nothing else it's an interesting insight into the kind of motor skills that will be expected of you if you want to go all the way, or the most expensive custard creams in the world.

Exactly what I said after I got out of the apptitude test ! Although it was worth it now

Hey Harvey

I didn't get through unfortunately. Looking at other routes, although I must say I'm a bit jaded now. I struggled through my instrument rating and maybe I won't cut the mustard past Cessna standard... Drop me a PM with your Facebook if you want to stay in contact. How did you do?

Just a quick one!

What happens if you fail one of the stages at EZY MPL with L3?
I know you can reapply for example for stage 2 (if you passed day 1) but would they make you to pay again?

I was on the phone to CAE today to gather information about my resit. I got to stage 3 last November, upon reading the L3 website it says I cannot apply seeing I've already applied unsuccessfully at another training provider, so they're out of the question, however I was told by CAE that I can reapply to EZY and I'd have to sit stages 2+3 again, I was told the earliest start dates are now going into 2019 and it's recommended I embark on the whitetail course with their 96% placement rate. I was quite pleasently surprised by that percentage!

Be very careful with that statistic. It’s just like buying shares; past performance does not represent future performance.

Also if they’re not starting courses til 2019 that shows spaces are pretty clogged for eJ, that would make me very nervous doing an untagged route.

At my interview at L3 in early September, I was told to expect a start date early 2018, around April.

How long has people waited on average to be told their route allocation after passing the assessment process?

Hi guys, how is everyone getting on? Is anyone starting with L3 CTS / CTC Aviation on EZMP27 or CP184? Best of luck to everyone still going through their selection events!