Blackred
nobody told me how it really was, that's the real problem!
i just want to inform how it really is the life in Ryanair when it is not a novelty anymore, but it starts to become your life and your work.:yuk:

Highjet

you have nothing to complain about

you were the person who went into FR with a fat check just like all those other slaves and started to chip away at the T&C's of all your fellow
professionals.

so the very thing you complain about you have contributed to :ugh:

so stop complaining and get on with it should never bite the hand that feeds you...

Ehy Sharmrock the complain is about a comlpetly difference reality regarding what i expected. (base assignment, other stuff) It's like when you marry a girl and you dicover only after that that its' not the one for you! And i posted that just 'cause other guys can be awere of that.

Highjet

Go back and stick your head down the toilet. Because Im pretty positive that's where it has been prior to joining Ryanair. If you can't make it work for you, don't do it in the first place. That's what I tell everybody. Everyone, and I mean everyone, is made very aware of what can happen before they join. There is enough guys in a similar position out there now, and there is enough genuine information circulating to inform you before you make a choice. Basing, costs, commuting, rates of pay....you go on like it was one big surprise. Maybe you will act as a reference to all the other dreamers that think this place owes them something...and some of your facts and figures are grossly exaggerated or else you have just messed up.

My advice would be get your head down and stop complaining. I've been here for over two years. I'm still not at my first choice base. Yet I am making more than whats required for a decent lifestyle along with being able to support my family. If you aren't and you can't see it ever happening for you then leave because no one is going to sympathise. It's a take it or leave it kind of place.

Blackred

You scowl this site looking for the opportunity to add your 'I hate Ryanair' stories. Plenty of - a mate in Ryanair said, my mate who flies for Ryanair told me....fantastic!

Highjet - yes it costs money to do the type rating, pay for uniform, accomodation and food etc, if you didn't know this when you signed up its your own fault, all this information is readily available. You don't have to spend so much on a uniform, just buy less, go get some trousers at Marks' or elsewhere, the aircraft also have headsets, ok not ANR, but perfectly good for the job, so why splash out on a gucci 500 Euro pair?

I was lucky, i trained in UK, Line Trainined in UK, permanent base in UK, I get to spend as much time with my wife and kids as I did in my previous career. I'm happy, I fly out of a great base, with great colleagues on a great roster, pay is better than my previous job. Its not all bad....what "bad" aspects there are, are fully avaiable for all to see before signing on the dotted line.

Blackred,...I feel for your "friend", I don't know where he works but not clearing 2000Euro is a shame, I did that on my second paycheck on the low rate of pay. Pay is good, rostering good, aircraft good and colleagues good. As with anything in life, its your decision, armed with all the facts you can say yes or no, no-one forces anyone to sign these contacts.

For those of you who are interested.. a large number of people I know have had calls within a week of applying from both SAA and CAE.

both
i dind't know a lot of important details i hadn't friends working in it!

cae is 32750. I don't live in Ams and i was not send in my home for line training as the 98% of the cadets, so cost of living is that sum in a cheap solution. In ex. a friend of mine was sent to Dublin he spent 60€ per night! And if your final base is not your home.... you have also another house and another car or taxis or buses, internet, bills, and so on!

TR with cae IS €27,500 almost exactly £23k, paid for it today before you ask :ok:

I just noticed this on Ryanair / CAE website regarding TR.

APPLICANT SHOULD:
Must have a flight school report. This applies to both Integrated and Modular students;

I do not have one, and my IR provider no longer exists. (PFT at Bournemouth) Does this mean "I need not apply......?"

Has anyone here had an assessment recently from a re aplication? I ask as I want to re apply as its been over a year, I know they say no re applications but wondering if anyone somehow managed it?

I applied via CAE over a year ago and heard nothing.

Tried applying via SAE which was via email earlier this year and also heard nothing.

Reapplied to both SAE via website and CAE in last 6 - 8 weeks and heard nothing. I now have a reasonable number of hours after finishing training with AOC experience and extra training due to AOC requirements.

I would be interested to know how they make their decision's as its a bit frustrating if people are being called 10 days after applying :)

They may just pick people randomly... who would want to read trough all applications? Each day the pile grows with a rate both CAE nor SAA can follow. Think about it, if Ryanair needs 200 pilots for 2011, CAE and SAA just dick in the pile and pick those suitable.
By adding a school report to the list of papers you need to have before applying is just a way to let those graduated a few years ago to find other places to apply, cause Ryanair only wants fresh from school people with a report of their performance. Imagine you call up your flightschool you've left a few years ago... they'll have a laugh, no one remembers you anyway and all the instructors had left for better jobs by now.

Well that's just my theory by the way... ;)

Happy landings all!

Yes, it's less nowadays because you no longer pay Dutch VAT. It was €32,750 until the end of 2009 but you get your 19% VAT back.

well either way then your costs were exaggerated

32 cant be too old, there are plenty of 2 stripe f/o's kicking about the crewrooms in a morning that are either much older than 32 or had a paper round from hell.

good luck on the job hunt.

I was over 30 when I got my interview. There is no limit as far as I know.

Looks like intake has been put on hold recently.

I don't think the intake is on hold.
Many of my friends have been interviewed over the last couple of weeks and are continuing to be called.

It seems to be a case of getting your name to the top of the pile.. and they suggest re-sending the app.

Good luck.

I know at least 2 guys who got in very recently both 40+

pitot_noob, how can you actually re-send your application to Ryanair? Make up a new account or just update your existent one? Curious on that.. :E

No news is good news!