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Officer Kite 1st Aug 2019 13:29


Originally Posted by Wondrex (Post 10533961)
Flybe, Loganair??? You got a young cadet out of flight school who has the opportunity to fly 800 hours a year on a 737 around Europe for a couple of years before joining a Flag Carrier and you would propose him/her to fly an ERJ-135 for 300 hours a year around Scotland ?

300hrs? You got your facts mixed up mate. And what is wrong with Flybe and the other options? Do you have any idea of how many ex flybe guys are now in BA? ... you are treated as a human there at least and your ceo doesn't come out calling you an overpaid bus driver whilst telling the world how he is going to fire up to 500 of you in the coming months, whilst still hiring you. If you enjoy paying through the nose to be a company pawn then good luck, but as for ryr being the only gig in town that can advance your career onto a flag carrier, well you need to get out more from that insulated existence because it doesn't match reality. The year is 2019, not 2009.

kfitz100 1st Aug 2019 14:38


Originally Posted by Officer Kite (Post 10533998)
300hrs? You got your facts mixed up mate. And what is wrong with Flybe and the other options? Do you have any idea of how many ex flybe guys are now in BA? ... you are treated as a human there at least and your ceo doesn't come out calling you an overpaid bus driver whilst telling the world how he is going to fire up to 500 of you in the coming months, whilst still hiring you. If you enjoy paying through the nose to be a company pawn then good luck, but as for ryr being the only gig in town that can advance your career onto a flag carrier, well you need to get out more from that insulated existence because it doesn't match reality. The year is 2019, not 2009.

Sensible answer :D

Honeyman5123 1st Aug 2019 16:30

Pardon me for getting into the conversation but as a newly CPL pilot with his license in hand isnt Flybe having financial difficulties at the moment?

Pirrex 1st Aug 2019 17:04


Originally Posted by SquawkID (Post 10533716)
As is i said "i could imagine" and i don't know a thing, everyone in here is just having thoughts and by the Words of MOL, there will be people loosing their jobs. I dont know who are going to be the unlucky ones, but it looks like there will be some. I dont Panic and even suggested not to.

I didn't refer to you when i said not to panic, just people here in general. You're obviously well off with your new job, congrats on that! It's really not that bad place to be, as those rejected by Ryanair makes people think!
Every single year they scare people with layoffs, last year it was downsizing in Dublin, to move people over to Poland. Not a very cool thing to threaten with, but I'm willing to bet my job on that not a single person will get fired.

James Ken McIntosh 1st Aug 2019 18:12


Originally Posted by Wondrex (Post 10533961)
Flybe, Loganair??? You got a young cadet out of flight school who has the opportunity to fly 800 hours a year on a 737 around Europe for a couple of years before joining a Flag Carrier and you would propose him/her to fly an ERJ-135 for 300 hours a year around Scotland ?

Actually more then that and yes they do also fly to the continent as well

ERJ not a bad A/C

Flying to unique Airfields, developing your multi crew skills with a company that’s expanding not a bad position to be in!

T/R payed for with a bond.

Still a lot of companies out there looking for Pilots who pay very well and treat you well!

However the Selection process is a lot more difficult then RYR

Such as the Lufthansa DLR

Mollymawks for SunExpress, CargoLux etc

Also, the BQ by interpersonal

Word of advice - Be humble, not everyone wants the same thing you want.



SquawkID 2nd Aug 2019 09:05

Bad news. All Course, that havent yet started (i think 1909 is the first), have been cancelled.

smthngdffrnt 2nd Aug 2019 09:49


Originally Posted by Banana Joe (Post 10534242)
Bad attitude mate, bad attitude.

To those looking for alternatives, in Poland LOT are actively recruiting, and so are Sprint Air (they are busy).

Confirmed, LOT is asking for a PBN certification just to apply. This an endless story of payments... to get a job.

OldDreamer 2nd Aug 2019 10:13


Originally Posted by smthngdffrnt (Post 10534748)
Confirmed, LOT is asking for a PBN certification just to apply. This an endless story of payments... to get a job.

By PBN certification you mean the endorsement in you license under your Instrument Rating correct? I think it is mandatory now that All initials and revalidation's must include PBN.

LilPiloty 2nd Aug 2019 10:49

Ryanair can blame Brexit and the MAX all they want, but it's not down massively to either of those. As we know Ryanair had people leaving up till a few years ago at a ridiculous rate hence why they have been recruiting like mad ever since. The IAA and IALPA mandated that they make a number of changes to pilot working conditions and pay. These changes of conditions mean people have stopped leaving, hence why they stopped applications for direct entry FO and Captains early this year. Now they have less aircraft for new pilots to go onto they don't need as many pilots. Simply put "supply and demand". Ryanair now don't need as many cadets so are delaying type rating courses (course 1909 for example). Will cadets promised with type rating courses actually get one in the new year? We simply don't know. I hope they do as friends of mine are part of those promised courses and they are some of the best new aviators I know.

In terms of the other recent posts. Loganair, is a really decent airline for a fresh CPL, MEP/IR student. The Embraer 135/145 is a hot ship and they do around 800 hours a year there. The pay is decent too at £31k for a new FO and a fully bonded 5 year type rating. The company is making a profit thanks to great work from their Managing Director Jonathan Hinkles. I believe they are getting rid of the Saab 340 and Saab 2000's soon and possibly replacing them with ATR's. "flying around Scotland"...yea sure mate. They fly all over the place and into some really interesting places. Also lots of Charter work for Football teams over the UK and Europe.

In terms of LOT, my experience of applying to them has been a complete joke. I attended their Careers day at Gatwick where only 7 people turned up!! After speaking to a member of their team who was very interested in my flight training in Poland and IR examiner (TRE LOT pilot) they asked for my CV and said that I should apply asap! I applied two days later and emailed the staff member I spoke to. The staff member said in front of everyone that it would only be two weeks from applying when I could expect a reply. I have not received anything since and it's been 4 months! I even tried to contact said staff member on Linkedin but they did not reply. My advice would be put an application in but don't expect anything to happen. Likewise with Air Serbia!

Have a look at SunExpress (Turkish contract), Eurowings, DHL, Flybe, Aegean, SkyExpress, EnterAir.

I firmly believe that the peak of the employment wave has passed and now, we as fresh new pilots are going into the older days of having to wait a year or two for the chance to sniff the inside of an interview room.

Good luck to everyone and keep the blue side up

RD1912 2nd Aug 2019 11:03

RYR TR cancelled
 
Hi guys,
Maybe some of you heard about the bad news....
Ryanair cancelled all the TR starting from beginning of August. It's a very bad news ...
​​​​​They told us it's because of the max delivery problem...
we'll see what happens in the next few months...
I don't know if it's still possible to apply but I think it's not the best period to do it....
Cheers

Akum 2nd Aug 2019 11:43

Terrible news, rynair just cancelled all type ratings in this year,I+13 guys from CAE1909 had type rating starting date at 05 August.But yesterday we received phone call that is not gona happen,we should wait for info, probably in next year something will happen,also after 6 months we should do another interview (free of charge).I personally quite my job, transferred license,bought plane tickets, accomodation,more than 1000 EUR wasted.

Banana Joe 2nd Aug 2019 11:45


Originally Posted by smthngdffrnt (Post 10534748)
Confirmed, LOT is asking for a PBN certification just to apply. This an endless story of payments... to get a job.

My current CAA don't even print one and I was invited in April.

Banana Joe 2nd Aug 2019 11:46


Originally Posted by Akum (Post 10534838)
Terrible news, rynair just cancelled all type ratings in this year,I+13 guys from CAE1909 had type rating starting date at 05 August.But yesterday we received phone call that is not gona happen,we should wait for info, probably in next year something will happen,also after 6 months we should do another interview (free of charge).I personally quite my job, transferred license,bought plane tickets, accomodation,more than 1000 EUR wasted.

Again, this is Ryanair as usual. It's stupid you have to do another interview, even if free of charge.

BoeingLudo737 2nd Aug 2019 12:07


Originally Posted by Banana Joe (Post 10534844)
Again, this is Ryanair as usual. It's stupid you have to do another interview, even if free of charge.

So what does the expert recommend? My friend, who also got his Type Rating cancelled, said it's a reduced assessment so only SIM no interviews

Banana Joe 2nd Aug 2019 12:09


Originally Posted by BoeingLudo737 (Post 10534866)
So what does the expert recommend? My friend, who also got his Type Rating cancelled, said it's a reduced assessment so only SIM no interviews

Holding pool. And close the application until the holding pool is empty.

BoeingLudo737 2nd Aug 2019 12:12

They are in holding pool but their assessment is valid for 6 months

BoeingLudo737 2nd Aug 2019 12:16


Originally Posted by Akum (Post 10534838)
Terrible news, rynair just cancelled all type ratings in this year,I+13 guys from CAE1909 had type rating starting date at 05 August.But yesterday we received phone call that is not gona happen,we should wait for info, probably in next year something will happen,also after 6 months we should do another interview (free of charge).I personally quite my job, transferred license,bought plane tickets, accomodation,more than 1000 EUR wasted.

It is terrible news and all the MAX operators are facing the same issues. Hope everything goes well for you in the future

Banana Joe 2nd Aug 2019 12:35


Originally Posted by BoeingLudo737 (Post 10534872)
They are in holding pool but their assessment is valid for 6 months

Which is stupid in my opinion. They passed the interview in the first place and you were going to train them anytime soon. They won't become "rotten" or become inadequate 6 months later. They're still capable guys that you can train. No need to interview them again.

BoeingLudo737 2nd Aug 2019 12:56

Line Pilots get checked every 6 months so nothing "stupid" here

Banana Joe 2nd Aug 2019 13:15

Except the fact that these are not line pilots. But to each their own.


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