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Rocket61 19th Jul 2019 09:27


Originally Posted by BoeingLudo737 (Post 10522478)
How would you even think they make any money with this?

Have you any idea how much instructors, SIM engineers hr staff and the SIM itself cost to run assessments?

Then you are basically saying that they fail people because they don't need them? Sorry but you are completely wrong.

You are obviously making things up about the week that 38 people didn't get through,

Did you read my message properly ? I said "SOME PEOPLE" say they make money out of it, but "I DON'T KNOW" anything about it, and I do share your opinion, I really doubt they make anything out of it. I was saying that to inform our dear friend here asking questions that he may read (if he hasn't read it yet) things like that somewhere else, but I can't confirm.

About the week where they have all been adjourned, I can definitely confirm I'm not making this up. My mates at CAE who applied at that time all failed, and the rest of the cadets of the week did too. I can't confirm the exact number (34-36-38) but it was in that range, and believe me that is true.
To moderate my previous position, they may have all been a bunch of poorly-motivated pilot with lack of technical knowledge and terrible CRM skills, although I really doubt it but who knows, stress, bad day...
As RYR has its pilot application open all the year, there has to be some periods of the year where their needs are less important (which is totally normal), so they can be more selective, and that was all I was saying.

Javeee 21st Jul 2019 10:22

It seems that now there's a pool list for next year Type Rating, that's pretty bad news ...

Does anyone know if they do interviews during August?

duncanidaho50 21st Jul 2019 11:38

Interview for non cadets
 
Hi guys,

I am thinking of applying to the Polish FO contract to try to avoid the 5k and from what I heard I can get out of there as soon as I get upgrade, which should be with in a year. (Out meaning go to another Ryanair base in southern Europe),
Any information on how this interview goes and what they ask vs. Cadet one? I guess it's not much different.
Also considering the point of going to Ryanair sun and then swapping bases, some people advise me about it cos I might get stuck. The best info I have right now, is that is not a stand-alone company and I will be able to start bidding for a y base+ with the command contract I should be able to move. Anyone that has a good understanding in the inside. What do you guys think?
Thanks

plane-driver 22nd Jul 2019 11:59

Anyone else had email saying that although we were successful at interview our type ratings have been postponed till next year?

Grav 22nd Jul 2019 23:03

Plane-driver, yes, some of the guys who were at the interview with me last week apparently are in the same situation, while others will start the TR earlier, in october.

fiducioso 23rd Jul 2019 08:44

Should I wait to apply? Maybe when the max will start to arrive?

Serk10 23rd Jul 2019 10:10


Originally Posted by fiducioso (Post 10525745)
Should I wait to apply? Maybe when the max will start to arrive?

I was thinking the same. A friend of mine got that email as well saying that even though he was successful he will not get any training until next year.

pilotmike 23rd Jul 2019 11:40


Originally Posted by fiducioso (Post 10525745)
Should I wait to apply? Maybe when the max will start to arrive?

I wouldn't wait THAT long!

davinci1 24th Jul 2019 22:15

Does anyone know something about cadet recruitment process? Do they still recruit cadets? What about APS MCC Ryanair Mentor Programme graduates? Is it true about pilot surplus?

polskiland 25th Jul 2019 15:07


Originally Posted by davinci1 (Post 10527436)
Does anyone know something about cadet recruitment process? Do they still recruit cadets? What about APS MCC Ryanair Mentor Programme graduates? Is it true about pilot surplus?

The pilot surplus is def true. With Boeing's news regarding the MAX today I think it certainly does not do any good. Time to look for something else than Ryanair is the hard truth

paul_v1 25th Jul 2019 21:13

What's an alternative to Ryan Air then? Any decent ones out there?

fiducioso 26th Jul 2019 08:49


Originally Posted by paul_v1 (Post 10528335)
What's an alternative to Ryan Air then? Any decent ones out there?

no decent alternative at all...
for this reason I prefer to wait..and apply only when the 737 max start to arrive..
too risky now..

anto125 26th Jul 2019 09:14


Originally Posted by fiducioso (Post 10528670)


no decent alternative at all...
for this reason I prefer to wait..and apply only when the 737 max start to arrive..
too risky now..

Still don't understand what you mean..
If you pass now you're in a pool..
If you apply in one year you will be behind all people doing assessments these months (if they go on).
And also waiting months to apply without working proves you do not really need a job.

And this Also being that optimistic considering you'll pass 100%.. I was not that confident when I applied..anyway everybody is free to do what he considers the best for himself, this is why this world is still cool. ;)

PilotRoger 26th Jul 2019 11:28

fiducioso I don't think your logic makes too much sense

anto125 is right, i mean, if you apply now and pass, you will be the in pool, if you apply later and pass, you will be also in the pool, but behind of all who passed earlier.

My advice, apply , and keep applying for other airlines, so when the moment arrives you can be lucky enough to choose which offer you want to take.
I don't know about EZY, but in their website the FO application are not open. I know WZZ is hiring, but they also have a similar pool system now. Yeah, so seem the pilot surplus is a 2019's thing.

Officer Kite 26th Jul 2019 12:19


Originally Posted by fiducioso (Post 10528670)


no decent alternative at all...
for this reason I prefer to wait..and apply only when the 737 max start to arrive..
too risky now..

What a ridiculous statement. There are plenty of airlines who will even pay for all of your expenses and type rating costs and give a great work environment and treat you like a human.

Ryanair is a brilliant start, but let's not lose sight of reality.

BoeingLudo737 26th Jul 2019 13:14

You are a bit ridiculous as well aren't you?

Banana Joe 26th Jul 2019 13:36

Is he? Saying Ryanair is the only way is quite a ridiculous and self-inflicting statement. For a starter, go on career.aero and you'll see there are 2 or 3 airlines currently recruiting and German is not required. They offer an equally good start to someone's career.

You don't need to offend people who have a different opinion.

Officer Kite 26th Jul 2019 13:52


Originally Posted by Banana Joe (Post 10528904)
Is he? Saying Ryanair is the only way is quite a ridiculous and self-inflicting statement. For a starter, go on career.aero and you'll see there are 2 or 3 airlines currently recruiting and German is not required. They offer an equally good start to someone's career.

You don't need to offend people who have a different opinion.

Indeed. Not even on aero, there are plenty of operators out there for example, loganair, stobart, flybe, aer lingus, thomas cook ... many airlines who hire you, some cover all the type rating and some cover all the expenses too. Shop around, there are tons of opportunities.

polskiland 26th Jul 2019 16:29


Originally Posted by BoeingLudo737 (Post 10528888)
You are a bit ridiculous as well aren't you?

Your parents must've given you birth onboard a Ryanair aircraft, there is plenty of other ''Everything covered'' oppertunities out there

SID PLATE 26th Jul 2019 17:56


Originally Posted by BoeingLudo737 (Post 10528888)
You are a bit ridiculous as well aren't you?


Anyone who suggests this, and at the same time, describes their location as "world' ... really ought to have a look in the mirror ...

scai_pailot 29th Jul 2019 13:23

Hi guys!

Any news about the recruiting process? I applied two weeks ago and my application is under review.
I had some information from a pilot working for Ryanair. It has several pilots in excess and it is asking to its pilot not to fly because there is not need!
It seems that Ryanair recruiting process is in a stalled condition.

Has someone been invited for the online assessment in these days?

polskiland 29th Jul 2019 13:42


Originally Posted by scai_pailot (Post 10531278)
Hi guys!

Any news about the recruiting process? I applied two weeks ago and my application is under review.
I had some information from a pilot working for Ryanair. It has several pilots in excess and it is asking to its pilot not to fly because there is not need!
It seems that Ryanair recruiting process is in a stalled condition.

Has someone been invited for the online assessment in these days?

Shall we take the big or small spoon to feed you? The information is literally on the previous page of the topic

paul_v1 29th Jul 2019 13:56


Originally Posted by polskiland (Post 10531286)
Shall we take the big or small spoon to feed you? The information is literally on the previous page of the topic

Thats why he asked if there are any news 4 days later. I dont think that your attitude helps much.

B77F 29th Jul 2019 14:08

Has anyone been applying last week?

Wondrex 30th Jul 2019 07:51

Wouldn't apply in an airline stating there are in excess of pilots...

PilotRoger 30th Jul 2019 14:32

Bad new guys, it seems things were worst that we thought.
MOL announced about base closures and some layoffs for winter ops. More details will come in August directly to the base managers.

fiducioso 30th Jul 2019 18:55

I have just heard the CEO's speech...I’m fu**d...game over ...:(

fiducioso 30th Jul 2019 19:00


Officer Kite 30th Jul 2019 23:42


Originally Posted by fiducioso (Post 10532341)
I have just heard the CEO's speech...I’m fu**d...game over ...:(

Why? Do you have shares in Ryanair? :rolleyes:

Please, you are an independent pilot and the market is full of opportunities. Many with a far better contract too.

Banana Joe 31st Jul 2019 01:01


Originally Posted by fiducioso (Post 10532341)
I have just heard the CEO's speech...I’m fu**d...game over ...:(

You're self-inflicting lots of issues if you rely only on Ryanair. They are not the only option.

davinci1 31st Jul 2019 05:49


Originally Posted by Officer Kite (Post 10532555)
Why? Do you have shares in Ryanair? :rolleyes:

Please, you are an independent pilot and the market is full of opportunities. Many with a far better contract too.

Any example of airline for low hour pilot with a far better contact that Ryanair?

PPRuNeUser0156 31st Jul 2019 08:24

Ryanair have always been very pragmatic in the way they operate.

Personally this seems more like it’s fuelled by Brexit. I can see things working out with the Max later this year and Brexit being resolved and then they will find themselves short of pilots again as demand will start going back up.

The UK Economy has been in a bit of limbo as everyone is nervous. Once resolved it will be like the property market was a few years ago where it made up for all of the lost time.


BoeingLudo737 31st Jul 2019 08:25


Originally Posted by FlyingGreek (Post 10532752)
Ryanair have always been very pragmatic in the way they operate.

Personally this seems more like it’s fuelled by Brexit. I can see things working out with the Max later this year and Brexit being resolved and then they will find themselves short of pilots again as demand will start going back up.

The UK Economy has been in a bit of limbo as everyone is nervous. Once resolved it will be like the property market was a few years ago where it made up for all of the lost time.


Finally a sensible analysis!

thisishomebrand 31st Jul 2019 10:07

CAE continue to advertise the Ryanair course on Facebook, which is quite surprising given the reported training delays and MOL announcement

SquawkID 31st Jul 2019 15:49

Hello everyone.

my Application went very smooth.

Applied June 15th.
Cut-e June 21st.
Phone Call June 26th.
Assessment July 16th.
Course start sept 30th on FR 1913.

Some Guys were successful in the assessment and have to wait until early January for their course to start.

I would not panic about the latest news. Ryanair still made more 270 million € in the second quarter and i think the mess about Brexit and the Max will be sorted by the end of the year and Ryanair will still need Pilots. I could imagine, that RYR is trying to dismiss the McGinley-Pilots first, as it is easier than to get rid of Ryanair-contract-Pilots. As long as they keep inviting people, i would apply. If you might have to wait a little after a successful assessment, but they will need Pilots again soon.
I think FlyingGreek has put it well. Other Airlines suffer from smaller win margins aswell and other LCC had it even worse...

So, who else is in FR 1913 starting September 30th? There are 4 Guys from my Assessment Group, Anyone else?

Pirrex 1st Aug 2019 08:05


Originally Posted by SquawkID (Post 10533167)
Hello everyone.

my Application went very smooth.

Applied June 15th.
Cut-e June 21st.
Phone Call June 26th.
Assessment July 16th.
Course start sept 30th on FR 1913.

Some Guys were successful in the assessment and have to wait until early January for their course to start.

I would not panic about the latest news. Ryanair still made more 270 million € in the second quarter and i think the mess about Brexit and the Max will be sorted by the end of the year and Ryanair will still need Pilots. I could imagine, that RYR is trying to dismiss the McGinley-Pilots first, as it is easier than to get rid of Ryanair-contract-Pilots. As long as they keep inviting people, i would apply. If you might have to wait a little after a successful assessment, but they will need Pilots again soon.
I think FlyingGreek has put it well. Other Airlines suffer from smaller win margins aswell and other LCC had it even worse...

So, who else is in FR 1913 starting September 30th? There are 4 Guys from my Assessment Group, Anyone else?

There is no reason why they would want to get rid of contractor FOs because they are cheaper to the company than employees and doesn't cost them a dime to just have them just flying less, so why would they let a future captain go, when it's free to keep them?

Stop panicking, nobody will get laid off. Recruitment will go on, although in smaller numbers until there is certainty about the MAXes.

SquawkID 1st Aug 2019 08:16


Originally Posted by Pirrex (Post 10533706)
There is no reason why they would want to get rid of contractor FOs because they are cheaper to the company than employees and doesn't cost them a dime to just have them just flying less, so why would they let a future captain go, when it's free to keep them?

Stop panicking, nobody will get laid off. Recruitment will go on, although in smaller numbers until there is certainty about the MAXes.

As is i said "i could imagine" and i don't know a thing, everyone in here is just having thoughts and by the Words of MOL, there will be people loosing their jobs. I dont know who are going to be the unlucky ones, but it looks like there will be some. I dont Panic and even suggested not to.

Officer Kite 1st Aug 2019 10:57


Originally Posted by davinci1 (Post 10532668)

Any example of airline for low hour pilot with a far better contact that Ryanair?


Just off the top of my head, Flybe, Thomas Cook, Level, Loganair, Eurowings, Aer Lingus, Stobart. All these will cover all of your type rating costs and many will cover all your expenses too, some may even throw in a company id! Jet2 also to be included if you don't mind spending a year doing other work first, still a great opportunity to get airborne with a company who will take care of you.

Some of these hire all year round and some don't, but they have all hired in the very recent future and will hire again soon or are doing so as we speak.

OldDreamer 1st Aug 2019 11:39

Has anyone who applied in July got an online assessment? I applied at the very beginning of the month and nothing so far (only got the email Application Under Review)... I suspect they either didn't really like my CV or they really got their selection process to a hold.

Wondrex 1st Aug 2019 12:36

Flybe, Loganair??? You got a young cadet out of flight school who has the opportunity to fly 800 hours a year on a 737 around Europe for a couple of years before joining a Flag Carrier and you would propose him/her to fly an ERJ-135 for 300 hours a year around Scotland ?


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