300hrs? You got your facts mixed up mate. And what is wrong with Flybe and the other options? Do you have any idea of how many ex flybe guys are now in BA? ... you are treated as a human there at least and your ceo doesn't come out calling you an overpaid bus driver whilst telling the world how he is going to fire up to 500 of you in the coming months, whilst still hiring you. If you enjoy paying through the nose to be a company pawn then good luck, but as for ryr being the only gig in town that can advance your career onto a flag carrier, well you need to get out more from that insulated existence because it doesn't match reality. The year is 2019, not 2009.

Sensible answer :D

Pardon me for getting into the conversation but as a newly CPL pilot with his license in hand isnt Flybe having financial difficulties at the moment?

I didn't refer to you when i said not to panic, just people here in general. You're obviously well off with your new job, congrats on that! It's really not that bad place to be, as those rejected by Ryanair makes people think!
Every single year they scare people with layoffs, last year it was downsizing in Dublin, to move people over to Poland. Not a very cool thing to threaten with, but I'm willing to bet my job on that not a single person will get fired.

Bad news. All Course, that havent yet started (i think 1909 is the first), have been cancelled.

Confirmed, LOT is asking for a PBN certification just to apply. This an endless story of payments... to get a job.

By PBN certification you mean the endorsement in you license under your Instrument Rating correct? I think it is mandatory now that All initials and revalidation's must include PBN.

Ryanair can blame Brexit and the MAX all they want, but it's not down massively to either of those. As we know Ryanair had people leaving up till a few years ago at a ridiculous rate hence why they have been recruiting like mad ever since. The IAA and IALPA mandated that they make a number of changes to pilot working conditions and pay. These changes of conditions mean people have stopped leaving, hence why they stopped applications for direct entry FO and Captains early this year. Now they have less aircraft for new pilots to go onto they don't need as many pilots. Simply put "supply and demand". Ryanair now don't need as many cadets so are delaying type rating courses (course 1909 for example). Will cadets promised with type rating courses actually get one in the new year? We simply don't know. I hope they do as friends of mine are part of those promised courses and they are some of the best new aviators I know.

In terms of the other recent posts. Loganair, is a really decent airline for a fresh CPL, MEP/IR student. The Embraer 135/145 is a hot ship and they do around 800 hours a year there. The pay is decent too at £31k for a new FO and a fully bonded 5 year type rating. The company is making a profit thanks to great work from their Managing Director Jonathan Hinkles. I believe they are getting rid of the Saab 340 and Saab 2000's soon and possibly replacing them with ATR's. "flying around Scotland"...yea sure mate. They fly all over the place and into some really interesting places. Also lots of Charter work for Football teams over the UK and Europe.

In terms of LOT, my experience of applying to them has been a complete joke. I attended their Careers day at Gatwick where only 7 people turned up!! After speaking to a member of their team who was very interested in my flight training in Poland and IR examiner (TRE LOT pilot) they asked for my CV and said that I should apply asap! I applied two days later and emailed the staff member I spoke to. The staff member said in front of everyone that it would only be two weeks from applying when I could expect a reply. I have not received anything since and it's been 4 months! I even tried to contact said staff member on Linkedin but they did not reply. My advice would be put an application in but don't expect anything to happen. Likewise with Air Serbia!

Have a look at SunExpress (Turkish contract), Eurowings, DHL, Flybe, Aegean, SkyExpress, EnterAir.

I firmly believe that the peak of the employment wave has passed and now, we as fresh new pilots are going into the older days of having to wait a year or two for the chance to sniff the inside of an interview room.

Good luck to everyone and keep the blue side up

RYR TR cancelled
 

Hi guys,
Maybe some of you heard about the bad news....
Ryanair cancelled all the TR starting from beginning of August. It's a very bad news ...
​​​​​They told us it's because of the max delivery problem...
we'll see what happens in the next few months...
I don't know if it's still possible to apply but I think it's not the best period to do it....
Cheers

Terrible news, rynair just cancelled all type ratings in this year,I+13 guys from CAE1909 had type rating starting date at 05 August.But yesterday we received phone call that is not gona happen,we should wait for info, probably in next year something will happen,also after 6 months we should do another interview (free of charge).I personally quite my job, transferred license,bought plane tickets, accomodation,more than 1000 EUR wasted.

My current CAA don't even print one and I was invited in April.

Again, this is Ryanair as usual. It's stupid you have to do another interview, even if free of charge.

So what does the expert recommend? My friend, who also got his Type Rating cancelled, said it's a reduced assessment so only SIM no interviews

Holding pool. And close the application until the holding pool is empty.

They are in holding pool but their assessment is valid for 6 months

It is terrible news and all the MAX operators are facing the same issues. Hope everything goes well for you in the future

Which is stupid in my opinion. They passed the interview in the first place and you were going to train them anytime soon. They won't become "rotten" or become inadequate 6 months later. They're still capable guys that you can train. No need to interview them again.

Line Pilots get checked every 6 months so nothing "stupid" here

Except the fact that these are not line pilots. But to each their own.

As a cadet, would you still apply or rather wait until the whole recruitment situation is clear?

Well this couldn't have come at a worse time, I'm enrolled to start the APS with a reputable school in October with Ryanair my first choice for various reasons.

Im now considering delaying the APS to perhaps December, timing is key I feel!

I was scheduled for FR1911, now in a hold pool. Brace yourselves, here comes the downturn. In the meantime Im going to have a beer and try to think of the good things in life. Good luck guys.

RYR
 

Of course that's the MAIN reason...they're gonna have 38 planes less than expected next summer, assuming they will start to fly between sept and dec.
Add brexit in the middle and the pudding is served

Guys I don't know what to do. I'm starting APS MCC Ryanair Program in September but I haven't paid yet. Is it worth doing in that situation? Should I resign?

I would ask to do a normal APS.

Unfortunately they offer only APS MCC Ryanair Program and alternatively normal MCC/JOC. Is it a problem for other airlines that I have graduated from Ryanair Program?

I don't see the reason of doing an aps.
After all this investment in flying school, you spend 10k more to do 40+ hours in a plane type you are not sure you will fly. For ages people moved from the MEP to a type rating, and now for some reasons it seems necessary to do 40 hours flying a plane without knowing its systems properly, but pretending we are rated.
I did a normal MCC without joc and got a job.

Imagine you have a main chick and a side chick, imagine the main chick doesnt respond and the side chick knows she isnt responding and you decide to call the side chick instead. Ya reckon the side chick will be happy?

Hello,

Would you be so kind to comment actual mess?

Ryanair Recruitment how do you relate to this?

Finally some common sense.

That's possible. Anyway we are at bottom of the wave for hiring simply because it's the season's peak for carriers...

We should wait until beginning of September to know what are the actions they make.

I believe that Ryr will continue to grow and hire a lot of pilots in the future, the question is when. We could experience reduced hiring for weeks or months, the situation can change quickly.

Anyway only trying Ryr is not a clever option, in the hiring peak some people still failed the assessment.
For now, enjoy the summer and be ready for September!

I was at HQ just last week and half of us were successful at the assessment. I can say it was a very pleasant experience and I don't know where the interview began or ended because they were very good (both assessors and HR) at extracting your passion and knowledge. To be totally honest I had a very good time.

At all times, presentation and face to face interview, they were specific that we were only going to be called for next year courses. At no time this was hidden from us. I feel for the collegues that had type rating cancelled last minute but the companys growth plans are still solid and I don't doubt we will be getting a call back soon.

I could go on and on about exacts of the interview but it's been the same since 2017 in this thread. No changes.

Has anyone been offered an online assessment in the past 30 days or so?

Good Hawker400, did they give you any more specific dates when it may be possible to start your type?
I guess you've not been requested yet to send any docs or start any hiring procedures.