tp232,
Under JAR the -200 and -300~900 are considered to be different types. A -200 rated pilot needs to do a complete type rating course to fly the -800, although there might be a reduction in sim time. HTH Gerard |
tp232,
Under JAR the -200 and -300~900 are considered to be different types. A -200 rated pilot needs to do a complete type rating course to fly the -800, although their might be a reduction in sim time. HTH I only just found this out a couple of days ago. How much reduction in sim time is available for those who have done it. |
What route manual system does Ryanair use? (SIM ASS. and IRL)?
Br. Mrm |
my opinion
:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: !!!!
Funny theres a Guy who does the Ryanair Selection and he can run on the other side a business to prepare candidates for Interviews. So ,i pass if i buy myself 2 Evenings with MR .H and then pay again to get evaluated by him and 2 others .............. Shame on all of you who play with Dreams of others !!!! You will pay one day ....maybe aboard an Aircraft with Pilots who "Bought" their Jobs ..not earned !!! My Opinion ....no comment required .... Amen |
So Nuclear Weapon you did not make it into Ryanair. Well I guess from reading your post I can see that you may but be able to hack life at Europe's most successful low fares airline.
Oh and your friend - a cadet - did not get his first choice of base straight out of training. What did he really expect. Ryanair is an airline and sends new cadets where they have vacancies. It is not a branch of Thomas Cook! Get real. |
If I can indulge for a moment and ask about the assessment....
To the guys that have been through or know about the sim assessment:
Some colleagues have been suggesting that I get some time in the sim before hand to be familiar and up to speed whilst others have suggested I don't want to look too good initially as they are looking for your ability to learn and improve (as in that if you get a second attempt at something the assessors are looking for you to take their coaching on board and put it to good use). Is the Ryanair sim assessment a 'one chance' deal where they are looking for people that can turn up and fly the sim very nicely or do they prefer people not necessarily pre-trained, but can keep their cool and when given hints and tips can show the ability to learn and improve? Basically I'm wondering whether getting some extra sim time in can work against someone. Ta! |
Sim practice
Welsh Rambler,
I have also heard these differing points of view regarding sim rides, but the mere fact that you are considering it as an option probably means (and no offence meant) that you are either a little rusty with instrument flying or unfamiliar with type. To me, both cases are strong enough to warrant some practice beforehand. I have the assessment day on 21st March and have already booked the 737-200 sim at Real Simulation in Yorkshire for the prior day. It's a fair wedge to lay out (approx. £600 for 2 hours plus briefings etc.) on top of travel, accomodation and the £250 for Mr O' Leary's beer fund ;) , but compared with what I've already spent on training, it's small fry. I would hate not to get through selection due to being unprepared for the sim ride. At the end of the day you have to give yourself the best possible chance to get through and preparation in terms of personal/technical interview, sim ride and overall personal presentation is never wasted. The bit about assessors wanting to see an improvement over the duration etc. Well hopefully, if you've prepared you'll be good on your first attempt and even better on your second, or at least as good. Ideally, you should be able to learn or observe something from every 'flight' you conduct. They can't & don't expect miracles from a low hours/not current on 737 pilot, but are looking for a reasonable standard of flying and good CRM skills etc. Best of luck whatever you decide to do. WTSS :ok: |
Welsh Rambler
I would definitely get some time in a 737-200 sim. Think it might be a bit too much of a learning curve to learn to handle a jet and the high speeds involved in a 45 min assessment. When asked at the interview what I'd done to prepare I told them I did some time in a 737-200 FFS to prepare and they didnt seem to mind. You prepare as much as you can for flights, so why not for interview, was the view I took. I used Realsimulation, 1 hour did the trick, I used MS Flight Sim to brush up on my scan. All the best of luck. PS. I know 4 blokes who are flying for Ryanair in the Cadet scheme and all are loving it.:ok: |
WTSS & SkyGoose
Thanks for the advice guys :) , I'll give RealSim a bell. |
The 'Vortex Thing' debate has been moved to this thread, which I've temporarily borrowed from Terms and Endearments. It encapsulates the issue we were discussing quite well, and VT might learn a thing or two about how the industry feels about those who would work for less than the going rate.
Please post any further opinions on the issue in that thread, and leave this one for the discussion purely of Ryanair recruiting. Scroggs |
738 Sim?????
I am taking the assessment in a -800, or so they say.
Does anybody know where I can do some sim time on this type to prepare for the assessment? Thank you very much Diogo |
GECAT at Gatwick have a 738 sim. I believe you have to hire it privately through IAGO Solutions. Its not cheap though!
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Virtual Aviation (google it) might be able to help as well with an NG sim. Again, cheap it ain't......
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EMA - Stansted
Anyone going to Stansted after the interview at EMA tomorrow?
Perhaps we can share a rental car. Regards, Studsgaard |
Sim on 800
Hi guys,
Does any one know which exact departure is to be used on the new assessment on the 800 sim?? |
Why not just use the PMDG 737NG sim for FS2004? Buy the CH Products flight yoke to make it more realistic It can be configured to the exact Ryanair NG setup. I used it for some sim work for another airline assesment and flying the PMDG sim first was very helpful, to say the least. Best part about it (unlike the other options) is that it's cheap, practice as much as you like and can be resold when you've finished.
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A few advices
Hi all,
For SIM practice I've been using lots of hours in a Beech King Air 200 sim for speeding up my crosscheck. On FS I used Wilco's 737 Classic series. Best SIM tip from the day (I you have no jet experience): Don't get tempted to lower the nose on the horizon. 3-5 degrees pitch up at level flight (at the speeds and the TOM at the assessment) will be somewhere right. Remember from theory that it does take som time from throttle movement to airspeed change (either way) and do remember that the engines are underslung so that a thrust increase will give you a pitch up moment. Getting "behind" on speed requires large thrust input. TRIM and keep clear of the big wheels :) Best technical interview tip: Don't ever sell your ATPL theory books and keep reading them. Br. |
EMA assessment and interview
This is just a quick update on the Ryanair EMA assessment and interview process for low hour cadet pilots, as I had mine last week.
I applied through the SAA website 3 weeks ago and was contacted v.quickly to arrange an assessment date. The assessment itself consisted of a sim check flying the CPT3B departure from RW26 at Luton. Once the SID was complete we did steep turns at 30 and 45 degrees angle of bank. Tracked back to the LUT beacon (no emergency to deal with), a quick hold then the NDB/DME procedure to land RW26. Role as PNF was simply to monitor the PF and alert him/her of any deviations. Interview was fairly relaxed talking about career history and around six or seven ATPL theory questions on met and air law. Heard within 30 minutes of the interview that I'd passed. All in all a fairly painless process. Good luck to anyone else applying. |
met and air law???what about previously flown aircraft???that's what they're supposed to ask right????!!!at least that's what was stated on the e-mail they sent me...I think that's very inappropriate of them to say the least..
Were the questions very difficult? |
skyflyer737 did they send you the same information before your interview?
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I was asked nothing at all about previously flown aircraft which for me was the Seneca. I swotted up on it for a few days before but nothing came up!
The met and air law questions were not too hard - just basic stuff which to be honest any wannabe airline pilot with a CPL/IR should know. Examples were "Describe radiation fog", "Decode the following TAF/METAR..." "What does the following mean on a synoptic weather chart..." (showing a cold front). "Which way is the front moving?" etc etc. Air Law questions were based around a Jeppesen approach plate asking the radius of the MSA circle on the chart, altimeter setting procedures, differences between DA and MDA etc. The information given to me prior to the assessment said nothing about the SID to be flown. It just said there would be a PF and PNF sim check and a 45 min interview on previous aircraft flown and a 45 min interview on general HR style questions such as your suitability to fit into the company etc. Going back to the met questions etc, they aren't looking for 100% knowledge as I did get a couple wrong and didn't know the answer to another one. Also in the sim check they aren't looking for perfection. I was a bit unsteady in the first 5 or 10 mins but they are looking for improvement throughout your 45 mins of handling I guess. |
skyflyer737
Thank you for your information, by the way on which simulator did you do your assessment the 73-200 or the 800?? |
I would have thought he did it on the 200 since it appears only those from the (27th of march) onwards who are on the 800 like me, im surprised no one wants to have a bash on a 800 sim with me since the cost of one is through the roof.
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Sounds about just about the same in the sim for me, CPT3B sid, engine fire, then a few steep turns and then vectors back to the NBD app rw 26 at Luton.
As for the questions bit about yourself then a carb icing one, then swept wing advantages and disadvantages, then one on the 2 stroke engine and how it works (don't ask me why) and finally one on MEL's. Said they would let us know by Monday, but email to say no that night.:{ But the strangest thing is they then called me a few days later and asked if want to do another assessment, again in Dublin. :confused: Told them they had just turned me down but they did not seamed to care. So off to Dublin again :ugh: this time they have sent a full assessment briefing pack. One thing about the sim to be careful with, in the brief we were told to do touch drills only, then in the interview they asked why i didn't close the thrust lever and shut off the fuel etc. So might be worth asking at the time if they want the full drill or not. This by the way was in the -200 at Dublin. And if anyone want the briefing pack for the new assessment let me know as it looks like its not at Luton anymore, Leeds, Liverpool and Prestwick now. |
I did my sim assessment at East Mids on the 737-200. They said that everyone from the end of Feb onwards would be on the -800 though.
The Dublin assessment with touch drills etc sounds a lot more complicated than the East Mids one. In that one we had no emergencies or failures at all. I guess it's just the luck of the draw on which assessor you get. I also heard some people had 2 / 4 stroke engine questions and swept wing questions. I also know someone who failed the East Mids interview and then was called for a Dublin assessment and passed, so if anyone doesn't get through at EMA it's not the end of the world! |
Dublin Assessment
Hi,
I have my Assesment on the 1st of March in Dublin can anyone help me out? What is the profile and what kind of questions do you get? thanks |
Ryanair Brief
For all the people that want the Briefing for the -200 at Dublin.
I have just cut the plates from the end as the are poor quality and the intro and directions. :ok: The simulator assessment will entail the following:- Group Briefing:- Prior to the simulator detail a group briefing of all candidates that day will be conducted. Crews will be paired for the simulator assessment at this stage. Your assessor (check pilot) will be present to answer questions or clarify anything relating to the simulator detail. It will be assumed you have studied this briefing document in detail beforehand. The simulator is available for a four (4) hour period. Two candidates will be assessed at a time, so you may have to wait a while after the group briefing to be assessed in the simulator. The Simulator The simulator detail will be flown from either Liverpool UK (EGGP/LPL), Leeds Bradford UK (EGNM/LBA) or Glasgow Prestwick UK (EGPK/PIK)airports. The Jeppesen navigation and approach plates you require are attached below. However the appropriate plates will be provided to you on the day. The simulator is a Boeing 737-200. However you are not expected to know anything about the aircraft or it’s procedures. The primary instruments are:-
You may fly the simulator detail from the left or right seat. This is your choice. In the simulator the assessor will sit behind you at the instructor’s panel. You will operate as Pilot Flying (PF) and also as Pilot Monitoring (PM) (i.e. Pilot Not Flying) during the detail. When Pilot Flying assume you are Captain of the aircraft. This is important. The aircraft will be positioned on the runway threshold
Take-off (F5o) and Initial climb to Flaps up (F0o) – Pilot Flying The take off and initial climb will be flown manually (NO autopilot, NO auto throttle No Flight Directors). You can expect a departure clearance ‘climb on runway heading’ to a cleared altitude/flight level. The primary thrust setting instrument is the EPR (Engine Pressure Ratio). The target EPR will be set on the instrument for you (2.10EPR). It is the top instrument on the engine instrument panel, located ahead of the thrust levers. To commence Takeoff
You, the Pilot Flying, are responsible for the setting the thrust once the Flaps are up The aircraft has an electric (stabiliser) trim operated by a ‘thumb’ switch on the control column. It is quite powerful, so use only in short ‘bursts’ or ‘bleeps’. Once the aircraft is ‘clean’ and flying level the assessor will issue further instructions. The assessor will now give you some climbs, turns and/or descents to allow you familiarise yourself with the characteristics of the aircraft. Be aware the aircraft has the following pitch characteristics:-
We are obliged under JAR-FCL regulations to ensure pilots have English Language Proficiency ICAO Level 4 (refer - Appendix 1 to JAR-FCL 1.200). This will primarily be done during this exercise, so ensure you brief all parties comprehensively (ATC, Cabin Crew, your colleague etc.). If you are the Pilot Monitoring ensure you apply good MCC & CRM principles. You will be assessed in your Pilot Monitoring duties. Once this exercise is complete the assessor will intervene and ‘return’ the aircraft to normal operation. Following this phase of the detail the assessor will ‘freeze’ the simulator and ask you to
The Flap & Landing Gear schedule for the approach is as follows:-
Flaps / Fly speed minimum / ‘Call for’ F0 / 210 kts. / F1 F1 / 190 kts. / F5 F5 / 170 kts. LG, / F15 LG/F15 / 150 kts. / F30 LG/F30 / 140 kts. / ------- There will no need to do descent, approach or landing checklists during the detail. However you will be responsible for selecting the correct navigation aids and course indication on the HSI. There is no requirement to identify (Morse code) the navigation aids. Landing The approach will culminate with a Landing or Go-around (Missed Approach). Once ‘visual’ ensure you maintain a stable approach. In general little will need to change, so avoid the temptation to over-control and de-stabilise the aircraft. Maintain correct speed, the runway centreline and the vertical path (PAPI’s/Glideslope). In summary you will need to ‘look out’ as well as ‘look in’. Crossing the threshold ensure you look down the runway to allow your peripheral vision determine your height above the runway. At approximately 20 feet gently pitch up a couple of degrees and close the Thrust Levers. The aircraft should ‘sink’ nicely onto the runway. Smooth landings are NOT a criteria of the assessment. The requirement is to be
Go around (Missed Approach) Should you not become ‘visual’ by MDA or should the approach become de-stabilised at any point you must Go-around. This will be your decision, so good airmanship and decision making processes are necessary. Avoid the temptation to ‘press on’ with an approach when a Go-around is a better option. Should you decide to Go-around:-
The Go-around is complete when the flaps are up and the aircraft is stabilised in level flight at 220 knots. The detail will either finish at this point or the assessor will advise you to fly another approach. |
And for the -800 the same as last post but in the notes I have sai
AUTOPILOT ENGAGED Folloing this phase of the detail the assessor will invite you to engage the autopilot. Approach speeds will be set once the autopilot is engaged. Landing Flap is 30. The Vref..... So you will get on the approach to land AUTOPILOT on the 737 -800, Autopilot ON, Flight Director ON, Auto throttle OFF. The rest of the profile is the same as last post bar the AUTOPILOT part for approach. |
This will primarily be done during this exercise, so ensure you brief all parties comprehensively (ATC, Cabin Crew, your colleague etc.). |
Diogo,
I imagine this will be done as on the mcc, finish your memory items/your emergency actions and when everything is under control brief. When are you going to east midlands? |
I see..But I don't think we are briefed on the emergency procedure beforehand..I already received the pre-sim briefing and there wasn't any kind of mention to the Emergency situation that we are going to be faced with
I'm going on March 9th and you? |
Well maby they give it on the day of the assessment, im going the 20th
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Incoherence in speeds
Hello,
I noticed something which lloks strange to me in the speeds associated with flaps: Flaps / Fly speed minimum / ‘Call for’ F0 / 210 kts. / F1 F1 / 190 kts. / F5 F5 / 170 kts. LG, / F15 LG/F15 / 150 kts. / F30 LG/F30 / 140 kts. / ------- But in the go-around procedure, they say: Maintain 140knots & F15o until levelling off. The Flap retraction schedule is the opposite to the extension schedule (above)…..at 150 knots call ‘Flaps 5o’…at 170 knots, call ‘Flaps 1’o and at 190 knots call ‘Flaps up’. Where is the truth? What should be done? |
CAE SSTR/FR Requirements
Hello All
Just a quicky.... On the CAE web page it has the necessary requirements in order to enroll for the Ryan Air Scam..Scheme I mean :E ...and one mentioned is obviously a valid multi-engine instrument rating. Now here is the question, my MEP expired December just gone but my ME IR is valid until June 2007. Does this mean that I am still allowed to apply? Or does this mean my ME privileges are not valid but the IR is??? I’ve tried ringing the CAA several times but each time I was left on hold too long consequently eating my credit up...Any advice would be appreciated. Cheers |
Hi Turkish
Unless the website specifically asks for a valid MEP rating which i doubt then ur fine. All they are interested in is a valid ME IR which will become a MPA( Multi Pilot Aeroplane) IR upon completion of your type rating. Just be careful though as you say yours expires in June 2007. You need it to be valid to start the type rating obviously. However if it expires during the duration of the course you won't be required to do the renewal. I had the same issues last year before starting my tr but thankfully I was fine. Best of Luck |
Turkish,
I can also confirm that you don't need to worry about the MEP rating for the Ryanair application. I renewed my IR in January on an FNPTII and have been invited to the EMA assessment in March. All the best! WTSS :ok: |
Ryanair Training Centre Telephone Number?
Does anyone have the telephone number for the Ryanair Training Centre at East Midlands?
Also, I'm wondering if Ryanair anyone knows whether Ryanair have started using the 737-800 simulator for assessments, instead of the old 737-200? If so, I wonder if it's a permanent change, or just temporary? I'm just wondering because we're starting to get regular calls from Ryanair candidates regarding 737-800 simulator practice. |
References for Ryanair
Anyone know in what format references must be supplied to Ryanair? Do they require a recommendation letter or is the reference's contact simply enough?
Thank you |
References
Hi Diogo,
I asked the guys at EMA and was told to bring the details of one work and one personal reference, who will be contacted in due course, if you pass selection. All the best! WTSS :ok: |
Realsimulation 737-200 Sim Yorkshire
Does anyone have any feedback, positive or negative on the 737-200 sim and preparation course at Realsimulation?
Cheers, WTSS |
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