I had a sim assessment with FR last week. I know how they treat people but I hadn't heard anything else and wanted some interview and sim experience. They phoned me within 24 hours to say I had passed and offering me a place on the next type rating course. I turned it down!! I got a lot out of the int and sim assessment but if they think I'm going to pay 28000 euros they're wrong!! I'm just going to keep plugging away until I find somewhere that treats people better!! (they said that I should call them if I change my mind!!! No chance!!)

Well done, Hard Landing ! :D

You are the example everybody should follow.... More people like you, and maybe RYR would start paying themselves for type ratings and treat people better.

:D:D:D:D:ok:

Well done :ok::ok::ok::D:D:D

Hard_Landing.
Where you at the Dublin or EMA interviews?
I attended the Dublin interview/assessment last week, and am pleased to say I wont be Joining FR either!
Have to say my interview was an absolute joke, and have never been asked such a bunch of toss questions for a job in my life...

Littco,

What kind of questions? I assume it wasn't just the the usual psycho numpty stuff like "what's your greatest weakness".

I was in Dublin. I agree mate...the questions were pretty ridiculous! I honestly had to stop myself from laughing!! I really am not being flippant...it was that bad!! But, I am a strong believer in taking positives out of every situation.....and the big positive is that I am not going to be working for RYR!!!

I think the fact that, when they talk about the type rating (the "you have to go to one of our approved schools" line) and the way they ask whether you have the finances in place, they don't try to offset it by telling you how great it is to work for them and how you get this and you get that, tells you something!!

By the way, one of the guys on the assessment flew into Dublin on FR. He was sat at the front reading a "pilot interview" book, the first officer came out of the cockpit. He saw the book and asked "You're a pilot then?, have you got an interview?"...to which the guy said "yes...with you guys"...the f/o said..."POOR SOD" :eek:

Enough said!!

I'm baffled. I am a Ryanair pilot.

Why on earth would you spend money on an assessment and getting to the interview - if you did not want to join Ryanair in the first place?

Lol Good point!

Information about Ryanair
 

Hello all

Does anyone know how many pilots and aircrafts are currently in Ryanair? (where did you get this information from?)

Thanks

I paid for the sim assessment and int because,

1. I hadn't had an int or sim assessment before and I wanted the experience.

2. Even though I don't want to work for them I wanted to go along and get the answers to some questions "straight from the horses mouth", so to speak. No offence to anyone on here, but you do hear a lot of conflicting things (although, not on how bad FR is!!) so I wanted to go along and get the info first hand.

3. And I was going to go and get some practice in a sim anyway and I was quoted 320 quid an hour for that!!

And I did get a few things out of it. All of which seems fairly straightforward.....so if inveritas found it "baffling", maybe that says more about the pilots that say yes to FR!!:}

Hard Landing,

You could have paid an aviation company to do a practice interview with you and I am sure you would have got more information from that than doing FR interview.

You do not learn anything from the sim session as it is used for evaluation not training. You cannot put the session on your log book.

When FR had a pilot's recruitment road show, you could go there and get the information straight from the horses mouth for free!

so to summarise, all three of your points = a hard landing on your head

perhaps you are not right for FR and FR is not right for you.

Oh, one final thing, why are there so many pilots flying for FR if it is so sooo bad? After all, they are not cancelling flights because of a shortage of pilots are they?

Good points murray. I think hard landing needs to take a rain check. If you think your just going to walk into another airline it is pretty unlikely with low experience.

Why on earth should these sub-standard terms be accepted? RyanAir is not the only airline on this planet! People not accepting RyanAir are only demanding terms that are normal to this industry, nothing more.

Exactly....!
Being treated like dirt means you should not accept it anymore. Soon, they will make you do line training without even paying you, and there will still be people willing to do it.
Don't be crazy, just say NO :=

Fellow Aviator
For most people they are accepted in fact there accepted many times per week. Yes they are not the only airline and its not ideal, but with 200 hours jet jobs are few and far between for most people. Its pretty simple if you don't like it don't take it...

Finally a guy who speaks sense!!

Hehehe mi6grenada, you're so right

looking for a partner...
 

Looking for a partner to share a sim training on 737 800

please!

Contact me with a private message or [email protected]

Ryanair Sim Questions
 

Hi there,

I have a ryanair assesement on the 29th June in Dublin, if anyone has gone through the Dublin assesement recently and could give me an idea of the questions asked, both technical and HR etc. Would be very grateful.

Thank you in advance.

Ryanair MCC pre assessment
 

Hallo friends,
has anybody been to the Ryanair MCC preassessment done by SAS in Stockholm ? I would love some feedback on the tests and interview.
Maybe it's been written about allready but I missed it,please indicate link.
thank you and good luck.
ps:no gossip/jokes thank you,first hand exp. appreciated.

Ryanair training
 

Hi all - just checking in to find out if anybody out there is doing there tye rating at east midlands in september 2007.
Would love to share a place or rent a place somewhere very close to the airport.
Any ideas would be greatly appreciated - Thanks !!!!!!!!!

Before anyone asks if Ryanair do courses at EMA now, I would assume that Volare737 is doing an Operator Conversion Course as opposed to a full type rating that take place at SAS and CAE.

Sorry - yes just Efis to NG - !!!!!!!!

I'm looking at this thread about sim assesments and interviews for ryanair and to any potential pilots looking to join this company i would say this - the devil is in the detail. They way tell you that they need lots of pilots or it is a great opertunity to earn money but- and its a big BUT - there is a catch. there is a lot of money to pay by yourselves for training with NO guarentee of a job with them at the end. You will finish your training, be on a training contract earning £800 per month, and this contract will just run and run. You might then be offered a Brookfield contract, which is NOT employment by ryanair but an excuse to bounce you all over europe on a weekly basis.
This might sound very tempting to the desperate but there are better companies out there.
If you don't believe me just ask one question at your interview or assesment.

"If I pass all the interviews and assesments will I be offered a FULL TIME POSITION in Ryanair ? "
. If they answer is yes, then ask for it in writing and make sure it is signed

Two years?
 

If I am not wrong, the deal is fairly straight forward and its suitability really comes down to a question of personal circumstances and choice. Is it not 2 years on a six monthly rolling Brookefield contract and then permanent. I gather that during line training they do ship you around the place but then look to give you a base option if possible after this.
A few posts back Hard Landing mentioned turning them down together with various reasons etc... The one thing I do know is that in life one gets along by taking smaller steps to reach a longer term goal. Always think about it. The only point that needs to be made is perhaps there are people for whom the deal works longer term.The proof is they do seem to have enough Captains etc... P.S. Am not an FR pilot, just an interested observer so no axe to grind one way or the other.

Interview
 

Now this question must be getting a bit boring but it would help me allot if someone could give me some information about the techn. interview at RYR.

Thanks!

at the interview, they showed me an approach plate of Liverpool, and asked me what are the errors on NDB's. They asked me how many passengers can a 737-200 and 800 can carry, and the brand of the engine.
They asked me what do I know about Ryanair, then they sent me to the blackboard and asked me to draw a jet engine, and explain how trust is created, and give the difference between a turbofan and a non turbofan.

help on Ryanair interview
 

dear number, was your interview at east midlands? or dublin?? i have mine at east midlands.....anyone know if both use similar questions?

Ryanair Interview East Midlands
 

i recently had my interview with Ryanair and am really glad to say to i have passed the assessment and will be doing my type rating in a couple of months time.

The interview was very professional and to the point. There was a question on how a jet engine works, about the last multi engine aircraft i flew, questions on why i want to join Ryanair, what skills i can bring to the company etc.

The sim was straightforwared with a SID, some general handling and an ILS approach. I was told the next day that i had passed the assessment!

from looking at some of the these threads, excuse my language but there seems to be alot of Crap here on Ryanair i.e. things like you dont get paid whilst training etc and that your on the training contract for more than 6 months. I attended the Ryanair presentation in Oxford when the HR department from Ryanair came down, the presentation and the answers to the questions were to the point and and so far Ryanair have delievered what they had said.

one of my colleague who graduated with me from Oxford and has gone through the whole process. There were some hickups on the way on the Type rating course at CAE but he finshed everthing up to and including his line training. He now flys with the airline as a second officer and loves the job. I can't wait!!

At the end of the day the way i see it is that airlines like Ryanair give us low hour pilot a chance to join their airline with very little expreince. You try getting a job with some airlines who want hundreds of hours of jet time. I really cant wait to start my training with Ryanair.

I dont know whether to laugh or cry at the last post!!:ugh:

Im lost
 

Whar exactly were they asking when they asked about the difference between a turbofan and a non turbofan??

So.....A student spends £75k-£80k via the Oxford route and still ends up with Ryanair? :ugh:

A student spends £30k-£40k via a modular school and ends up with Ryanair? :hmm:

Interesting.....how will you Oxford grads be able to pay back your HSBC loan with the minimal Ryanair pay? or do you have another contract agreement with better pay??

SB002

Don't forget you can do modular at Oxford as well - so they may have spent the same as any other modular and gone to Ryanair. He has not stated that he was an integrated.

I actaully went through the integrated route, but students from Oxford on the modular route have also been accepted although i think the airline prefers integrated students as there are no interruptions in between the course.

I admit during the first six months the salary is very basic but once you start flying the money is very decent. My friend who was with me on the course is on a 30K salary and he has less than 100 hours jet expreince. So the salary is not as bad as some people make it out to be. I'm just gald i have a shot at a decent job with a great salary and the great thing is i'm going to get paid to a fly a jet!

There is no differentiation between integrated or modular students during the selection process at Ryanair.

RYRB737PILOT...."but students from Oxford on the modular route have also been accepted although i think the airline prefers integrated students as there are no interruptions in between the course"



Just out of curiosity.... why do you say Ryanair is more interested in intergrated students?
Did someone @ Ryanair tell you that? :ooh:

JOLLYFLYER no one really told me that integrated students are prefered i just assumed that integreated students probably stand a better chance of passing the assessment although i appreciate that their is a counter argument for this point.

Ryanair accept both modular and integrated pilots so i guess they don't have a problem with it! Although i know airlines like BA wouldn't even consider a modular student. This is one of the reasons why i did the integrated route.

Anybody out there know how to apply to ryan air then? The website says that cadets should apply on line to either CAE or SAA, the two type rating providers. Both the links lead to red herring pages, the SAA pages say that you should apply online at the Ryan Air website. I am at a loss as to how I should begin the application process, any ideas?

Ryanair don't give a toss whether you are integrated or modular. Most of us don't even know the difference. Ryanair don't care if you worked your ass off in Mac Donalds or got the money from Mummy and Daddy for you rating.

Horses Mouth

Bit of initiative badboy. There are numerous ways into FR and they have all been discussed at length here on pprune. Trawl through this thread and all will be revealed.