CTC McAlpine/easyJet/JMC Sponsorship Selection
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Hi guys,
As for changing available starting date you can update your application form at any time by logging in again using your reference number.
Prior to receving a stage 2 selection date (or a thanks but no thanks) there is no e-mail or telephone contact. This can only suggest that they do not want applicants pestering for responces, even to the extent of not confirming a received fax.
I think the answer is patience. (and check your fax machine works!!)
I ask again, is anyone going to stage 2 on the 1st Feb???
emmagg
As for changing available starting date you can update your application form at any time by logging in again using your reference number.
Prior to receving a stage 2 selection date (or a thanks but no thanks) there is no e-mail or telephone contact. This can only suggest that they do not want applicants pestering for responces, even to the extent of not confirming a received fax.
I think the answer is patience. (and check your fax machine works!!)
I ask again, is anyone going to stage 2 on the 1st Feb???
emmagg
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CTC, oh well!
Hey folks,
just got e-mail to say they wont be taking my application any further.
Not sure where it all went wrong, bad habbit of making it to final board interviews and failing there for full sponsorships but when i'm paying for it myself i cant even get past the application form! That includes HSBC!!!!!!!
Just wondering how many of you guys applied with zero flying hours like me but got through? Was this a big part of my rejection?
Anyhow, best of luck to VTOL and the others! All i can say is lucky bas and i am soooooo jealous! Nuff said!
Stu
just got e-mail to say they wont be taking my application any further.
Not sure where it all went wrong, bad habbit of making it to final board interviews and failing there for full sponsorships but when i'm paying for it myself i cant even get past the application form! That includes HSBC!!!!!!!
Just wondering how many of you guys applied with zero flying hours like me but got through? Was this a big part of my rejection?
Anyhow, best of luck to VTOL and the others! All i can say is lucky bas and i am soooooo jealous! Nuff said!
Stu
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Sure i applied to aerlingus / was halfway through when 9/11 happened and well you know the rest yourself......
Please keep posting your progress, sounds like you had similar profile (in some aspects) although no, i wouldn't have hairy legs, but i don't think thats a requirement!!!
And to the others: Purple Haze, Chris Empey, Master Yoda
either "good luck and keep going" or "sorry but bad judgement to ctc - you should have been put through!!"
Nothing was ever specified that they wanted people with/or without flying hours so I can't see why those sprouting on about "Oh she has too many" can possibly come to that conclusion - As the facts state people are through with 100+ , people are also through with 0 , I was more interested in knowing over and above their minimum criteria what else they had going for them (not every airline is just interested in what your bit of paper says you studied for !!!!)
AS it was, sure i have the brains to have gone to Uni, but i made the decision to get out to work and start putting towards my PPL , and doing what I wanted todo so don't just assume becasue i don't have a degree to my name that, that makes you any better!!!!!
Sure i applied to aerlingus / was halfway through when 9/11 happened and well you know the rest yourself......
Please keep posting your progress, sounds like you had similar profile (in some aspects) although no, i wouldn't have hairy legs, but i don't think thats a requirement!!!
And to the others: Purple Haze, Chris Empey, Master Yoda
either "good luck and keep going" or "sorry but bad judgement to ctc - you should have been put through!!"
Nothing was ever specified that they wanted people with/or without flying hours so I can't see why those sprouting on about "Oh she has too many" can possibly come to that conclusion - As the facts state people are through with 100+ , people are also through with 0 , I was more interested in knowing over and above their minimum criteria what else they had going for them (not every airline is just interested in what your bit of paper says you studied for !!!!)
AS it was, sure i have the brains to have gone to Uni, but i made the decision to get out to work and start putting towards my PPL , and doing what I wanted todo so don't just assume becasue i don't have a degree to my name that, that makes you any better!!!!!
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PFO'd after stage 3.
Never mind, was dead chuffed to have gotten through the aptitude testing, so at least the £165 wasn't all in vain.
For those who are looking into hours, about half the people on my stage 2 had significant hours (ie more than a couple of trial lessons), but who got through to stage 3 was not governed by this. We had 5(out of 14), of which one had PPL and about 120 hours TT, one had about 40 hours TT, and the others had about ten hours between them. I'm one of the latter, with not a single (logged) hour to my name, so don't let that put you off. One point though - if you haven't got any hours and you do make it to stage 3, make sure you've got a good excuse...
We were all either graduates or undergraduates, by the way. It didn't seem to matter whether you were just starting, almost finished or a couple of years post-graduate.
As for why NZ - cos it's cheap to live and train there. PPL will be NZ, converted during the CPL training.
Medical forms are no issue - I had no medical certificate. Some had their PPL certificate, I think a couple had a class 1 already. Like most things, if you've got it, great - if you don't, not a problem.
Computer based mathematics is harder than the paper-based stuff, make sure you can remember how to do long multiplication and division. You get notepaper, and a countdown timer on-screen. I had 24 questions.
Hand/eye/foot coordination - didn't find particularly sensitive. Slip-ball/ILS test and "racetrack" tests, using standard computer pedals & joystick. "Racetrack" test made harder because of springing on joystick - you have to be very smooth with movements. Try using two hands - worked for me.
Inputting data to the "autopilot" - well, I've never used a real one, so I have no idea on the realism question. However, it's not meant to be easy. That test uses scrolling, so you don't need to type the numbers - nor does it rely on your memory. You need to cancel warning lights which come on in one of two postage-stanp-sized black boxes, and use the numerical keypad to cancel the light depending on where in the box it is shown - ie, red light in top left of black box, use number 7; red light in middle of black box, use number 5, and so on.
As for anyone who wants to know how to get past stage 1b, all I can suggest is put some effort into it. Demonstrate some knowledge of what you're getting yourself into, and (for the sake of repeating previous posts) type it out, edit, when you're happy, write it on a draft, edit typed work, repeat. When you're happy it'll fit and sounds good, write out very neatly, using pencilled in lines. After all, why should they be bothered to train you if you can't be bothered to fill out a form?
Lastly, remember - we can tell you all about it, but it won't help you - these are aptitude tests, and harder to cheat than IQ tests.
PS: Good luck to all those who have yet to get to stage 2, comiserations to all those who flunked it, and a pox on anyone who gets through.
Never mind, was dead chuffed to have gotten through the aptitude testing, so at least the £165 wasn't all in vain.For those who are looking into hours, about half the people on my stage 2 had significant hours (ie more than a couple of trial lessons), but who got through to stage 3 was not governed by this. We had 5(out of 14), of which one had PPL and about 120 hours TT, one had about 40 hours TT, and the others had about ten hours between them. I'm one of the latter, with not a single (logged) hour to my name, so don't let that put you off. One point though - if you haven't got any hours and you do make it to stage 3, make sure you've got a good excuse...
We were all either graduates or undergraduates, by the way. It didn't seem to matter whether you were just starting, almost finished or a couple of years post-graduate.
As for why NZ - cos it's cheap to live and train there. PPL will be NZ, converted during the CPL training.
Medical forms are no issue - I had no medical certificate. Some had their PPL certificate, I think a couple had a class 1 already. Like most things, if you've got it, great - if you don't, not a problem.
Computer based mathematics is harder than the paper-based stuff, make sure you can remember how to do long multiplication and division. You get notepaper, and a countdown timer on-screen. I had 24 questions.
Hand/eye/foot coordination - didn't find particularly sensitive. Slip-ball/ILS test and "racetrack" tests, using standard computer pedals & joystick. "Racetrack" test made harder because of springing on joystick - you have to be very smooth with movements. Try using two hands - worked for me.
Inputting data to the "autopilot" - well, I've never used a real one, so I have no idea on the realism question. However, it's not meant to be easy. That test uses scrolling, so you don't need to type the numbers - nor does it rely on your memory. You need to cancel warning lights which come on in one of two postage-stanp-sized black boxes, and use the numerical keypad to cancel the light depending on where in the box it is shown - ie, red light in top left of black box, use number 7; red light in middle of black box, use number 5, and so on.
As for anyone who wants to know how to get past stage 1b, all I can suggest is put some effort into it. Demonstrate some knowledge of what you're getting yourself into, and (for the sake of repeating previous posts) type it out, edit, when you're happy, write it on a draft, edit typed work, repeat. When you're happy it'll fit and sounds good, write out very neatly, using pencilled in lines. After all, why should they be bothered to train you if you can't be bothered to fill out a form?
Lastly, remember - we can tell you all about it, but it won't help you - these are aptitude tests, and harder to cheat than IQ tests.
PS: Good luck to all those who have yet to get to stage 2, comiserations to all those who flunked it, and a pox on anyone who gets through.
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Do I dare....
Hi all
I faxed off my answers mid-Dec when the whole CTC thing first kicked off. Got the email on a Wed requesting the fax to be sent in by Thursday! Needless to say it was a rush job and looking back on it I didn't do myself justice. Anywho, got a PFO about a week later. So I guess the first thing I will say is take your time, read over and over your answers, change them...make sure your happy with them...we're talking Pulitzer prize stuff!!
...actually they must have really disliked me because I got a second PFO yesterday!!
...anyway, my question: Do I dare apply again? I'm sure they have a database they check applicants against, but I haven't seen anything on the relevant websites that says you can't re-apply.....anyone know?
Cheers
Soloboy
I faxed off my answers mid-Dec when the whole CTC thing first kicked off. Got the email on a Wed requesting the fax to be sent in by Thursday! Needless to say it was a rush job and looking back on it I didn't do myself justice. Anywho, got a PFO about a week later. So I guess the first thing I will say is take your time, read over and over your answers, change them...make sure your happy with them...we're talking Pulitzer prize stuff!!
...actually they must have really disliked me because I got a second PFO yesterday!!
...anyway, my question: Do I dare apply again? I'm sure they have a database they check applicants against, but I haven't seen anything on the relevant websites that says you can't re-apply.....anyone know?
Cheers
Soloboy
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No, unfortunately you can't reapply.
That said, they might, just might change their minds. I can't believe they'll be able to keep their books full at the rate they're getting through wannabees at the moment. They're looking at about 70 per year - and about one in ten of the people who attend stage 2 actually get through. That's seven hundred new wannabees every year at stage 2 - maybe double that for those who fill in the stage 1 forms. Which, I think you'll agree, is a lot of wannabees.
Ah, well. Here's hopin'.
That said, they might, just might change their minds. I can't believe they'll be able to keep their books full at the rate they're getting through wannabees at the moment. They're looking at about 70 per year - and about one in ten of the people who attend stage 2 actually get through. That's seven hundred new wannabees every year at stage 2 - maybe double that for those who fill in the stage 1 forms. Which, I think you'll agree, is a lot of wannabees.
Ah, well. Here's hopin'.
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harry26: i got a phone call from mary today about the class 1 issue, she said that we dont need one at this stage, although in my application i enclosed my class 2, but if we progress to further stages then we will need to get one, i didnt ask who would pay for this, but i can only assume it will be us.
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Just been invited to stage 2 selection on the 1st Feb - anyone else going?
Also, anyone from Scotland going and if so how you getting there? I live near Glasgow and its in the region of £500 im going to have to spend for the weekend!!
I think i'll be very poor before I become a pilot.
Also, anyone from Scotland going and if so how you getting there? I live near Glasgow and its in the region of £500 im going to have to spend for the weekend!!
I think i'll be very poor before I become a pilot.
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£500? The gov't would spent that much. You can do it for much less. £300 max, incl assessment payment. For example: train to Southampton - £65 with railcard, or £100-ish without; 2 overnights - £45 (1 night @ CTC, £30, and 1 night someplace cheaper on your return route, £15).
From Southampton train station, walk or take the free shuttle bus to the Hythe ferry pier, hop on the ferry (<£5), and get a taxi up to Dibden manor (<£5). Into the bargain you get to ride on some sort of wooden train along the pier at the Hythe end to save a 10 min walk, which I thought was pretty cool.
From Southampton train station, walk or take the free shuttle bus to the Hythe ferry pier, hop on the ferry (<£5), and get a taxi up to Dibden manor (<£5). Into the bargain you get to ride on some sort of wooden train along the pier at the Hythe end to save a 10 min walk, which I thought was pretty cool.
randombloke
A quicker option to the train is to fly with easyjet from Edinburgh to Gatwick the night before and then get the train down to Southampton from there. Return on the train is about 20 quid and there are direct services every hour everyday except sundays when you will have to change at Clapham Junction. You can check out the train times here .
A quicker option to the train is to fly with easyjet from Edinburgh to Gatwick the night before and then get the train down to Southampton from there. Return on the train is about 20 quid and there are direct services every hour everyday except sundays when you will have to change at Clapham Junction. You can check out the train times here .
Shining Example, apparently...
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Sheesh, it used to be much easier to spend 60 grand!
Re the maths, an old teacher said the only way to improve mental arithmetic is practice. Learn your times tables, know the handy milestones (7 x 8 = 56 etc.), take up darts, gamble, etc.
I'd recommend www.mathsisfun.com for anyone else who needs a long division refresher - very clear explanation. Unfortunately, it can't prove that 29 < 26 so I'm outta here!
Hope it goes well for you folks.
Re the maths, an old teacher said the only way to improve mental arithmetic is practice. Learn your times tables, know the handy milestones (7 x 8 = 56 etc.), take up darts, gamble, etc.
I'd recommend www.mathsisfun.com for anyone else who needs a long division refresher - very clear explanation. Unfortunately, it can't prove that 29 < 26 so I'm outta here!
Hope it goes well for you folks.
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I got a reply from Mary Brown at last. Im through to stage 2 but since I cant start for a while they are delaying calling me down for selection.
Has anyone got any tips for what I should do in preparation. Does SDT come up a lot? What did the successful people do in order to pass the aptitude? I want on this course and Im not going to mess this chance up.
Has anyone got any tips for what I should do in preparation. Does SDT come up a lot? What did the successful people do in order to pass the aptitude? I want on this course and Im not going to mess this chance up.
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Chris mate,
funnyonion didn't presume u didn't get thru, she said either goodluck or keep trying. i guess goodluck is what she directed at u.
thanks funnyonion
and very interesting site crepello!!
funnyonion didn't presume u didn't get thru, she said either goodluck or keep trying. i guess goodluck is what she directed at u.
thanks funnyonion
and very interesting site crepello!!
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The Application
A quick question; what did people put down on the application form when asked the earliest date which they would be able to being the training.
As I have a full time job, i'd have to give a months notice although I cannot input this onto the form (which is a little daft). What have others put down. Do you put down a date in 3 months time, 6 months time, etc. etc.
Cheers
Auto.
As I have a full time job, i'd have to give a months notice although I cannot input this onto the form (which is a little daft). What have others put down. Do you put down a date in 3 months time, 6 months time, etc. etc.
Cheers
Auto.
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Autofly,
So you'd quit tomorrow, if you got the gig?
As far as I'm aware, they're in the process of filling the March and April courses. This would give you ample time to give the old job the finger, get your visa, class 1 etc. So if you put April, you'd be fine.
Hope that helps.
So you'd quit tomorrow, if you got the gig?
As far as I'm aware, they're in the process of filling the March and April courses. This would give you ample time to give the old job the finger, get your visa, class 1 etc. So if you put April, you'd be fine.
Hope that helps.
. Best get on with the application.