CTC McAlpine/easyJet/JMC Sponsorship Selection
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Europe
Posts: 18
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Actually, the way I did the math I think you would be better off financially doing the CTC scheme than going through the TRSS, with the same hours to begin with and even taking into account the 6 months without pay. The pay reduction from the TRSS over time amounts to more than 6 months wages. My personal experience is that it is a quality outfit and they deliver what they say they will.
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Up North
Posts: 33
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
- From the figures they gave to some colleagues less than 1% get through the whole scheme!!
-1000hrs is not a problem, but must not be older than 34.
-Why not ring Jo Ward, the holding pool is empty and they need 20-30 more just to fulfill airline requirements. That is without restocking the holding pool.
The thing to remember is that they are selling the airline a product, YOU. For this they need a very specific raw material to ensure minimum financial risk for them.
Send in a good application form and prepare for the selection days.
TD
-1000hrs is not a problem, but must not be older than 34.
-Why not ring Jo Ward, the holding pool is empty and they need 20-30 more just to fulfill airline requirements. That is without restocking the holding pool.
The thing to remember is that they are selling the airline a product, YOU. For this they need a very specific raw material to ensure minimum financial risk for them.
Send in a good application form and prepare for the selection days.
TD
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: France
Posts: 139
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
the CTC pool is far from being empty. I've been waiting for almost 2 months now for an interview date (I already passed the initial selection).
I applied twice with EasyJet TRSS already with 1200TT in pistons and never heard from them. I would say that 500TT entry requirement is a myth...
The only problem with CTC ATP is that you have to pay for the AQC even if you already have a MCC ...
I applied twice with EasyJet TRSS already with 1200TT in pistons and never heard from them. I would say that 500TT entry requirement is a myth...
The only problem with CTC ATP is that you have to pay for the AQC even if you already have a MCC ...
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: UK
Posts: 19
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Heard the same as previous post, that the pool has been emptied by large Monarch requirment.
I am applying now and I know two who got through and have just been placed with Britannia.
Onwards and upwards
I am applying now and I know two who got through and have just been placed with Britannia.
Onwards and upwards
Join Date: Mar 2000
Location: UK
Posts: 164
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Dorosenco
I'm surprised that you have had to wait. From what I hear things at CTC are very fluid. The demand is there - large numbers required in Monarch not to mention a few places for Thomas Cook and obviously Easy.
Good luck.
JT8
I'm surprised that you have had to wait. From what I hear things at CTC are very fluid. The demand is there - large numbers required in Monarch not to mention a few places for Thomas Cook and obviously Easy.
Good luck.
JT8
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Not far from the airport
Posts: 155
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
RE: Jamojdm's Questions......
Hmmm
Your predicament is similar to the one I faced 18 months ago.
I'm in my Final Year of a 4-year degree which has included a work placement (that I did last year)
Rather than babbling on about what's right or wrong, I'll sum it up and let you decide
Work Placement
Without it, you may not be able to get an Honours (Hons) degree - unless your placement is not compulsory
Great way of improving your final degree classification - usually counts for around 20% of your degree
Allows you to develop yourself using the framework of skills you have gained in uni.
Prepares you for the "real" world
Paid (usually) - clears the student loan (or perhaps merely softens it!)
Employers love graduates with work experience
In the current airline recruitment climate, taking a year-out and returning to uni for a last year is not a ridiculous idea, you'll graduate in 2005(?) which may be a time when airline recruitment is more rife.
Don't question "loyalty". The only person you should be loyal to is yourself. Airlines, or indeed, other companies wouldn't think twice about making you redundant, cutting your pay, or burning you out, so let's not try and be loyal here.
In my eyes (whether they count or not) - if I was interviewing you and I noticed you had taken a year out for work expereince as part of your degree, I would say that it shows commitment to your cause. Reviewing your reference from your employer would also show me what you are like as a "worker" rather than an academic. As an airline, I want a businessman as a pilot. I also want a clever one. Your exam results/degree already show me that you are clever - your year-out shows me what you are like in the real-world.
"Quiting university if you get a pilot job?"
Sounds very risky to me. Sounds like something a risky person would do. The attribute of a good pilot? I think not.
Want my advice?
Do a year out. You will love it. You'll most certainly get a better degree classifcation because of it (I'm doing computing studies and I know that had I not taken a year out, my programming skills in Java and C++ would not of the level they are now!)
Best of luck.
Your predicament is similar to the one I faced 18 months ago.
I'm in my Final Year of a 4-year degree which has included a work placement (that I did last year)
Rather than babbling on about what's right or wrong, I'll sum it up and let you decide
Work Placement
Without it, you may not be able to get an Honours (Hons) degree - unless your placement is not compulsory
Great way of improving your final degree classification - usually counts for around 20% of your degree
Allows you to develop yourself using the framework of skills you have gained in uni.
Prepares you for the "real" world
Paid (usually) - clears the student loan (or perhaps merely softens it!)
Employers love graduates with work experience
In the current airline recruitment climate, taking a year-out and returning to uni for a last year is not a ridiculous idea, you'll graduate in 2005(?) which may be a time when airline recruitment is more rife.
Don't question "loyalty". The only person you should be loyal to is yourself. Airlines, or indeed, other companies wouldn't think twice about making you redundant, cutting your pay, or burning you out, so let's not try and be loyal here.
In my eyes (whether they count or not) - if I was interviewing you and I noticed you had taken a year out for work expereince as part of your degree, I would say that it shows commitment to your cause. Reviewing your reference from your employer would also show me what you are like as a "worker" rather than an academic. As an airline, I want a businessman as a pilot. I also want a clever one. Your exam results/degree already show me that you are clever - your year-out shows me what you are like in the real-world.
"Quiting university if you get a pilot job?"
Sounds very risky to me. Sounds like something a risky person would do. The attribute of a good pilot? I think not.
Want my advice?
Do a year out. You will love it. You'll most certainly get a better degree classifcation because of it (I'm doing computing studies and I know that had I not taken a year out, my programming skills in Java and C++ would not of the level they are now!)
Best of luck.
Guest
Posts: n/a
Good eveni...damn, just looked down and its morning 
I'm hoping to apply to the CTC McAlpine scheme in the near(ish) future. I've explored these forums fairly extensively and I think its fair to say that there's no "perfect profile" for CTC. The people who are not making it all the way and those who are all seem to have fairly different backgrounds in that some have got degrees, some not, some have no flying experience while others have CPLs...!
Having said all that, curiosity is getting to me and I wanted to see what people's thoughts were, specifically those who have been lucky enough to do some/all of the selection...
I'm in my final year of uni studying physics and space technology and hope to get a 2.2 or 2.1. I've got physics (B), maths (C) and general studies (B) A level and good GCSEs. At the moment (with around 4 months of uni left) I have one trial flying lesson under my belt (around 3 years ago
). I'm hoping to start PPL training fairly soon (should be interesting trying to fund that! 
) and hope to have gained a PPL by the end of the year. This is to plug the gap in my flying experience...all 0 hours of it! Before this I also want to get my Class I (next few months). I've had quite a bit of varied and progressively responsible work experience.
My question is, and I know its a bit pointless and unanswerable (by my own admission), but do you think this is a fairly strong profile to apply to the scheme with? Compared with their basic requirements I think it is but I'd like to hear from anyone whose applied with a similar background. I know it doesn't really serve much purpose in that my aptitudes may not be up to par, or I may have a bad day or any one of a thousand other reasons but any opinion is appreciated
Cheers guys and gals,
Mav
I'm hoping to apply to the CTC McAlpine scheme in the near(ish) future. I've explored these forums fairly extensively and I think its fair to say that there's no "perfect profile" for CTC. The people who are not making it all the way and those who are all seem to have fairly different backgrounds in that some have got degrees, some not, some have no flying experience while others have CPLs...!
Having said all that, curiosity is getting to me and I wanted to see what people's thoughts were, specifically those who have been lucky enough to do some/all of the selection...
I'm in my final year of uni studying physics and space technology and hope to get a 2.2 or 2.1. I've got physics (B), maths (C) and general studies (B) A level and good GCSEs. At the moment (with around 4 months of uni left) I have one trial flying lesson under my belt (around 3 years ago
). I'm hoping to start PPL training fairly soon (should be interesting trying to fund that! ) and hope to have gained a PPL by the end of the year. This is to plug the gap in my flying experience...all 0 hours of it! Before this I also want to get my Class I (next few months). I've had quite a bit of varied and progressively responsible work experience.My question is, and I know its a bit pointless and unanswerable (by my own admission), but do you think this is a fairly strong profile to apply to the scheme with? Compared with their basic requirements I think it is but I'd like to hear from anyone whose applied with a similar background. I know it doesn't really serve much purpose in that my aptitudes may not be up to par, or I may have a bad day or any one of a thousand other reasons but any opinion is appreciated
Cheers guys and gals,
Mav
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Hants, UK
Posts: 7
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Hi Mav,
As you say, it's quite a difficult question to answer but, in attempt to answer...
I was lucky/unlucky* (*delete as appropriate!) to fall at stage 4 of the CTC selection process. Sadly, sweaty palms got the better of me in the sim...D'oh! My background is similar to yours; I have a 2:1 in Aero Eng, A-Levels (similar subjects) and (at the time) almost zero hours towards a PPL.
I think you hit the nail on the head...it appears you have the aptitude for the tests, but the selection process, quite rightly, is about more than that; something this thread goes into well. You need to have what CTC believe make's a good trainee pilot that will pick up anything thrown at them during training, quickly, and will do well in the industry once qualified (their (CTC's) reputation is at risk!)
Do your best to impress and good luck.
KX
As you say, it's quite a difficult question to answer but, in attempt to answer...
I was lucky/unlucky* (*delete as appropriate!) to fall at stage 4 of the CTC selection process. Sadly, sweaty palms got the better of me in the sim...D'oh! My background is similar to yours; I have a 2:1 in Aero Eng, A-Levels (similar subjects) and (at the time) almost zero hours towards a PPL.
I think you hit the nail on the head...it appears you have the aptitude for the tests, but the selection process, quite rightly, is about more than that; something this thread goes into well. You need to have what CTC believe make's a good trainee pilot that will pick up anything thrown at them during training, quickly, and will do well in the industry once qualified (their (CTC's) reputation is at risk!)
Do your best to impress and good luck.
KX
Guest
Posts: n/a
KiloXray: It must of been very hard to be unsuccessful at stage 4, I can't imagine. But, by god, well done for getting all the way there! Very few people will get to see the inside of that sim
The morning after the day before I re-read my post and thought again how pointless such questions are...must have been one of those late night philosophical musings
I'm going to try and take it goal by goal: degree, medical, PPL, CTC, <insert activity here>, etc.
Are you still after a flying career? Self-funded? Self-funding does not appeal, it has to be said, hence trying to exhaust all (few and far between) sponsorship options first...but if it comes to it I'll do it
Cheers,
Mav
The morning after the day before I re-read my post and thought again how pointless such questions are...must have been one of those late night philosophical musings
I'm going to try and take it goal by goal: degree, medical, PPL, CTC, <insert activity here>, etc.
Are you still after a flying career? Self-funded? Self-funding does not appeal, it has to be said, hence trying to exhaust all (few and far between) sponsorship options first...but if it comes to it I'll do it
Cheers,
Mav
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Somerset
Posts: 6
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
I've been accepted for phase 2! 
My profile is 0 hours flying experience, Im 19 and have a btec national diploma in computing instead of A levels. I've got 2 go to Bournmouth international airport for it. Has anyone else been there?
My profile is 0 hours flying experience, Im 19 and have a btec national diploma in computing instead of A levels. I've got 2 go to Bournmouth international airport for it. Has anyone else been there?
