KLM Cargo/Martinair, any good?
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KLM Cargo/Martinair, any good?
Hi all, anyone know if the KLM Cargo/Martinair 747 FO gig is good? The roster for a commuter seems perfect. Any inputs highly appreciated!
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Be aware, very aware.
”MartinAir” as such is wholly owned by KLM but their pilots operate under a different contract and as far as I am aware there is no “flow” to KLM.
So the question is how long you’d like to be a 74 FO before they retire their last 74’s.
I may be wrong here but I believe KLM transferred some, if not all, of their 74 freighters to the MartinAir AOC in order for cheaper crews to fly them.
If it’s still the same as as from a couple years ago they keep it very unclear if you are a KLM or MartinAir employee.
You may very well end up being a MartinAir employee flying an aircraft in KLM livery at MartinAir pay with no clear path to KLM when the music stops.
There have been years and years of litigation:
https://nltimes.nl/2024/02/25/martinair-pilots-sign-collective-agreement-klm-receive-33-percent-pay
”MartinAir” as such is wholly owned by KLM but their pilots operate under a different contract and as far as I am aware there is no “flow” to KLM.
So the question is how long you’d like to be a 74 FO before they retire their last 74’s.
I may be wrong here but I believe KLM transferred some, if not all, of their 74 freighters to the MartinAir AOC in order for cheaper crews to fly them.
If it’s still the same as as from a couple years ago they keep it very unclear if you are a KLM or MartinAir employee.
You may very well end up being a MartinAir employee flying an aircraft in KLM livery at MartinAir pay with no clear path to KLM when the music stops.
There have been years and years of litigation:
https://nltimes.nl/2024/02/25/martinair-pilots-sign-collective-agreement-klm-receive-33-percent-pay
Last edited by B2N2; 13th January 2026 at 05:41.
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From: Amsterdam
Be aware, very aware.
”MartinAir” as such is wholly owned by KLM but their pilots operate under a different contract and as far as I am aware there is no “flow” to KLM.
So the question is how long you’d like to be a 74 FO before they retire their last 74’s.
I may be wrong here but I believe KLM transferred some, if not all, of their 74 freighters to the MartinAir AOC in order for cheaper crews to fly them.
If it’s still the same as as from a couple years ago they keep it very unclear if you are a KLM or MartinAir employee.
You may very well end up being a MartinAir employee flying an aircraft in KLM livery at MartinAir pay with no clear path to KLM when the music stops.
There have been years and years of litigation:
”MartinAir” as such is wholly owned by KLM but their pilots operate under a different contract and as far as I am aware there is no “flow” to KLM.
So the question is how long you’d like to be a 74 FO before they retire their last 74’s.
I may be wrong here but I believe KLM transferred some, if not all, of their 74 freighters to the MartinAir AOC in order for cheaper crews to fly them.
If it’s still the same as as from a couple years ago they keep it very unclear if you are a KLM or MartinAir employee.
You may very well end up being a MartinAir employee flying an aircraft in KLM livery at MartinAir pay with no clear path to KLM when the music stops.
There have been years and years of litigation:
There is no path to KLM mainline, at least so far nothing has been announced or seems to be announced.
