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PopasTze 12th January 2026 22:55
KLM Cargo/Martinair, any good?
 
Hi all, anyone know if the KLM Cargo/Martinair 747 FO gig is good? The roster for a commuter seems perfect. Any inputs highly appreciated!

B2N2 13th January 2026 04:59
Be aware, very aware.
”MartinAir” as such is wholly owned by KLM but their pilots operate under a different contract and as far as I am aware there is no “flow” to KLM.
So the question is how long you’d like to be a 74 FO before they retire their last 74’s.
I may be wrong here but I believe KLM transferred some, if not all, of their 74 freighters to the MartinAir AOC in order for cheaper crews to fly them.
If it’s still the same as as from a couple years ago they keep it very unclear if you are a KLM or MartinAir employee.
You may very well end up being a MartinAir employee flying an aircraft in KLM livery at MartinAir pay with no clear path to KLM when the music stops.
There have been years and years of litigation:
https://nltimes.nl/2024/02/25/martinair-pilots-sign-collective-agreement-klm-receive-33-percent-pay

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MartinOudkerk 21st January 2026 05:55
Originally Posted by B2N2 (Post 12019478)
Be aware, very aware.
”MartinAir” as such is wholly owned by KLM but their pilots operate under a different contract and as far as I am aware there is no “flow” to KLM.
So the question is how long you’d like to be a 74 FO before they retire their last 74’s.
I may be wrong here but I believe KLM transferred some, if not all, of their 74 freighters to the MartinAir AOC in order for cheaper crews to fly them.
If it’s still the same as as from a couple years ago they keep it very unclear if you are a KLM or MartinAir employee.
You may very well end up being a MartinAir employee flying an aircraft in KLM livery at MartinAir pay with no clear path to KLM when the music stops.
There have been years and years of litigation:
True, I recently moved to KLM and know several pilots currently flying for MartinAir (KLM Cargo) and they mentioned the toxic atmosphere due to the ongoing unfair (in their eyes) treatment in relation to the KLM pilots.
There is no path to KLM mainline, at least so far nothing has been announced or seems to be announced.


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