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Old 13th Nov 2023, 14:58
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Originally Posted by Flyingtaxidriver
Is time to command the same for everyone, as in still seniority based. Or is their any credit for experience
Purely seniority based. Previous experience is irrelevant.

Actually, to expand - all promotions and fleet changes are in seniority but you can find yourself getting LHS 320 or RHS 330 ‘sooner’ than expected if not everyone more senior than you wants that particular spot. The new short-haul skipper pay scale doesn’t interest everyone so people have been staying RHS 330 longer which has seen more and more junior RHS 320 people getting a shot a command earlier than expected. Similarly, FOs senior enough for part-time are slow to move fleets/go for command as they’ll then lose part-time. All this pushes the seniority cut-off for command lower.
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Old 13th Nov 2023, 16:25
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Originally Posted by okmijn
Purely seniority based. Previous experience is irrelevant.

Actually, to expand - all promotions and fleet changes are in seniority but you can find yourself getting LHS 320 or RHS 330 ‘sooner’ than expected if not everyone more senior than you wants that particular spot. The new short-haul skipper pay scale doesn’t interest everyone so people have been staying RHS 330 longer which has seen more and more junior RHS 320 people getting a shot a command earlier than expected. Similarly, FOs senior enough for part-time are slow to move fleets/go for command as they’ll then lose part-time. All this pushes the seniority cut-off for command lower.
How much worse is the new short haul captains scale? I'd heard about the 9% post covid cut but don't know anything about the new scale
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Old 13th Nov 2023, 17:17
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Originally Posted by Redmo
How much worse is the new short haul captains scale? I'd heard about the 9% post covid cut but don't know anything about the new scale
The new scale isn’t a pay cut. It’s a pay limit. The pay is identical to the ‘ordinary’ scale all the way to year 19 at which point, annual increments stop. The reality being, by year 19, the vast majority of people will have had the opportunity to bid out of that scale onto a long haul fleet and the ordinary scale. This assumes continued growth and expansion, of course. Being a ‘short-haul’ captain places latitudinal and longitudinal restrictions on the duties you can be assigned and has, thus far, only served to reduce the flexibility of the pilot body to the airline.
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Old 29th Nov 2023, 23:50
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Any information about the assessments these days in Dublin please?
good luck!!
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Old 5th Dec 2023, 06:48
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Results

Hi, anyone know if EI contact with results of assessment as they go, or once all assessments/sims are completed?
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Old 6th Dec 2023, 15:42
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Hi, anyone know if EI contact with results of assessment as they go, or once all assessments/sims are completed?
I got a call for the sim where they told me I had passed the assesment so.far
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Old 6th Dec 2023, 18:17
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Originally Posted by Redmo
I got a call for the sim where they told me I had passed the assesment so.far
W Well done on getting that far. I was more referring to job offer calls, any idea when they plan to make a decision
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Old 15th Jan 2024, 14:16
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Has anyone who did the sim check had news? I got an email just before Christmas saying answers should go out mid to late January
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Old 16th Jan 2024, 13:16
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I've heard a few calls with offers were made in mid December and a number of rejection emails sent out. The old saying 'no news is good news' applies. Last year my colleague got the call mid February. Best of luck
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Old 17th Jan 2024, 15:25
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This page is for cadets applying for first job, not for DEC recruitment
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Old 17th Jan 2024, 19:10
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Originally Posted by MichaelOLearyGenius
This page is for cadets applying for first job, not for DEC recruitment
The thread is titled direct entry??? There is a separate thread for cadets
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Old 20th Mar 2024, 19:34
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Open again!!
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Old 22nd Mar 2024, 11:01
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Hope Nobox and AL HR teams don’t invite to Dublin 30 pilots for 4/5 positions available per day…
why?, because it’s money to spend and ticket, hotel, food, transport),if you ask for free days at your actual airline they would realize it’s to attend to a pilot selection event, and finally please if someone of you guys attend be gentle and try not to monopolize the group exercise please.
Also they told me there was “special treatment” for some of the guys/gals last year… understandable if they know someone inside but don’t look. So if I get the invitation I would have to think twice.

Anyway, good luck everybody in your dream to be part of a major !
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Old 1st Apr 2024, 16:59
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anyone remember wich online test we have for the first part ?
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Old 1st Apr 2024, 23:46
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Total waste of time and effort for a process which has a final "review" stage that ultimately turns into a who you know contest.

Yes, you can pass every stage then be dumped at this review, because the reviewers know someone who's uncle has had a word, and the positions are finite.

They kicked off the last process by telling everyone how not corrupt the process is. That says a lot.

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Old 2nd Apr 2024, 23:30
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Originally Posted by A320LGW
Total waste of time and effort for a process which has a final "review" stage that ultimately turns into a who you know contest.

Yes, you can pass every stage then be dumped at this review, because the reviewers know someone who's uncle has had a word, and the positions are finite.

They kicked off the last process by telling everyone how not corrupt the process is. That says a lot.
A320LGW, there may be a little bit of starchy organic matter on your shoulder. EI not perfect but tell me how many legacy airlines in Europe have a dozen plus nationalities in the pilot body? Bulk of intake is now DEP so the 'cadet as the ideal' notion is a lot less now. Sure, one or two senior Capt's progeny make it in but the vast majority of new pilots have earned their seats through hard work and previous airline flying. It's still a very worthwhile career in a very decent airline.

A lot of airline pilot life is about personal interaction, life skills and awareness of others and sometimes of how you are perceived. Perhaps you need to think about that.
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Old 3rd Apr 2024, 00:18
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The pilots leaving the airline may beg to differ with you on how great it is.

My shoulders are clear thank you, along with my nose, which knows when it smells a rat.

One or two progeny make it in? You know, being an airline pilot entails being honest. I recommend you reflect on this crucial pilot quality.
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Old 5th Apr 2024, 15:17
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Hi guys I received an email for the online assesment. Does anyone know what to expect? Thanks
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Old 5th Apr 2024, 17:02
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Does anyone knows how many pilot they want to recruit this session and how many applicants we are ?
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Old 10th Apr 2024, 06:15
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2024 direct entry pilot

Has anybody received an email for the third stage - interviews/assessment day as of yet? Or any idea when this might be
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