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Old 21st Feb 2023, 17:37
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Originally Posted by patituri
How can it be EFIS aircraft without an EICAS? And ZFTT has nothing to do with EFIS, is 500 hrs ( wondering why airbaltic is asking 300 hrs) on aircraft above 10 tons but extra training is required if transitioning from a prop to jet. But the guy is asking if they are strict with the requirements they publish. Answer is simply no, they also hired recently an Italian guy with zero experience on passenger aircrafts and he wasnít a military pilot either. We shouldnít discourage people from applying cause of requirements which are quite elastic
737 MAX does not have EICAS. You don't consider it EFIS either?
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Old 21st Feb 2023, 18:08
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Originally Posted by dera;[url=tel:11389343
11389343[/url]]737 MAX does not have EICAS. You don't consider it EFIS either?
And how do they call the SCREEN which indicates the engine parameters and crew alerts?
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Old 22nd Feb 2023, 17:35
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Originally Posted by patituri
And how do they call the SCREEN which indicates the engine parameters and crew alerts?
Crew alerts on a screen in a 737? Not sure, since it doesn't exist.

Perhaps do a little homework.

Have you ever flown anything with an EICAS?

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Old 23rd Feb 2023, 06:45
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Originally Posted by dera;[url=tel:11389897
11389897[/url]]Crew alerts on a screen in a 737? Not sure, since it doesn't exist.

Perhaps do a little homework.

Have you ever flown anything with an EICAS?
I asked you how do they call the SCREEN, but you avoided to answer. I put some photos to help you since I am not good in drawing.
In the second photo there is and amber indication of low oil pressure



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Old 23rd Feb 2023, 09:32
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Originally Posted by dera
737 MAX does not have EICAS. You don't consider it EFIS either?
it is efis
Eicas has nothing to do about it
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Old 23rd Feb 2023, 09:35
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Originally Posted by patituri
And how do they call the SCREEN which indicates the engine parameters and crew alerts?
The screen is just there. You don't need to call it.
It's a fixed feature, although you can move elsewhere if needed with rev modes.
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Old 23rd Feb 2023, 10:04
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Originally Posted by Michael S;[url=tel:11390279
11390279[/url]]The screen is just there. You don't need to call it.
It's a fixed feature, although you can move elsewhere if needed with rev modes.
EICAS, ECAM, you name it.
Some messages before I suggested to open a new thread regarding if an aircraft can be considered EFIS, if it has some or all instruments on screens or if you install screens in a mechanical gauges cockpit. I checked briefly, didnít find any EASA definition. I think that I am spamming in this thread although my initial post, which triggered this conversation, was a reply to someone who was asking how strict ab is with the published requirements
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Old 23rd Feb 2023, 14:02
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Originally Posted by patituri
EICAS, ECAM, you name it.
Some messages before I suggested to open a new thread regarding if an aircraft can be considered EFIS, if it has some or all instruments on screens or if you install screens in a mechanical gauges cockpit. I checked briefly, didnít find any EASA definition. I think that I am spamming in this thread although my initial post, which triggered this conversation, was a reply to someone who was asking how strict ab is with the published requirements
737 does not have EICAS, or ECAM, or anything even remotely similar system for crew alerts.
It's now clear to me you have never flown a jet with one, so there's no point to beat this dead horse.

https://simpleflying.com/boeing-737-...ystem-changes/

"The MAX 8 and 9 were certified without the EICAS system and Boeing also hopes to be able to certify the MAX 10 without it."

The screen you are looking at is only the engine instrumentation display, it does not display any cautions or warnings apart from the fixed caution lights for low oil pressure. In 737 if you get a master caution/warning, you start looking at the overhead panel to figure out what's wrong, you don't get an EICAS message to inform you of the situation, because it has no EICAS.

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Old 23rd Feb 2023, 14:03
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Originally Posted by Michael S
it is efis
Eicas has nothing to do about it
I know. I was just replying to that guy who thinks 737 has EICAS, which is doesn't.
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Old 23rd Feb 2023, 14:58
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Originally Posted by dera;[url=tel:11390419
11390419]737 does not have EICAS, or ECAM, or anything even remotely similar system for crew alerts.
It's now clear to me you have never flown a jet with one, so there's no point to beat this dead horse.

https://simpleflying.com/boeing-737-...ystem-changes/

"The MAX 8 and 9 were certified without the EICAS system and Boeing also hopes to be able to certify the MAX 10 without it."

The screen you are looking at is only the engine instrumentation display, it does not display any cautions or warnings apart from the fixed caution lights for low oil pressure. In 737 if you get a master caution/warning, you start looking at the overhead panel to figure out what's wrong, you don't get an EICAS message to inform you of the situation, because it has no EICAS.
You avoid to answer on the B737 cockpit photos so I attach one from the B737 manual.
It clearly says EICAS for B737.
Enough being polite and wasting my time to find evidence to answer to trolls.
I checked your posts, you seem to have hours only as a FI as you refer only to Cessnas and FI jobs. You have location in USA, but you ask for stuff about EASA. What destroys this profession , are the bottom feeders who are stuck in instructing or small props and can do anything to ride a big jet. They are willing to do starve (or asking paycheques from parents) or bribe in post soviet countries to find themselves flying a jet. I am not talking about the pilots who began from small aircrafts and quickly grabbed the chance for big jets. I am talking for stuck pilots and I know in person some off them. Thatís why nowadays airlines donít pay much or donít offer a commuting roster.
And thatís the case here. As I said they are hiring people with 0 hours on airplanes above 5.7 tones and doubtful a/c equipment despite their requirements.These pilots can replace the pilots who ask for a commuting roster or better salaries.
Because of you people T&C get worse and worse
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Checked again your posts regarding FAA EASA conversions, visa questions etc. Seems you are not American neither European. No worries, you can work in Europe, AB doesnít even require a European passport






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Old 24th Feb 2023, 13:01
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Originally Posted by patituri
You avoid to answer on the B737 cockpit photos so I attach one from the B737 manual.
It clearly says EICAS for B737.
Enough being polite and wasting my time to find evidence to answer to trolls.
I checked your posts, you seem to have hours only as a FI as you refer only to Cessnas and FI jobs. You have location in USA, but you ask for stuff about EASA. What destroys this profession , are the bottom feeders who are stuck in instructing or small props and can do anything to ride a big jet. They are willing to do starve (or asking paycheques from parents) or bribe in post soviet countries to find themselves flying a jet. I am not talking about the pilots who began from small aircrafts and quickly grabbed the chance for big jets. I am talking for stuck pilots and I know in person some off them. That’s why nowadays airlines don’t pay much or don’t offer a commuting roster.
And that’s the case here. As I said they are hiring people with 0 hours on airplanes above 5.7 tones and doubtful a/c equipment despite their requirements.These pilots can replace the pilots who ask for a commuting roster or better salaries.
Because of you people T&C get worse and worse
PS
Checked again your posts regarding FAA EASA conversions, visa questions etc. Seems you are not American neither European. No worries, you can work in Europe, AB doesn’t even require a European passport






Well said Sir.
I confirm the cases you mentioned. They also ask for FMS aircraft, LET410 isn't equipped with FMS.
I bet now some Karen will say that an after market FMS could be installed
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Old 24th Feb 2023, 19:46
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Originally Posted by ctacik
Well said Sir.
I confirm the cases you mentioned. They also ask for FMS aircraft, LET410 isn't equipped with FMS.
I bet now some Karen will say that an after market FMS could be installed
Thanks! Yes, they also have FMS aircraft in their requirements. I donít think you can just install one, I guess the airplane should be equipped with IRS initially. Maybe the guy who has a friend who sells upgrade kits for LET410 could enlighten us
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Old 24th Feb 2023, 20:38
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Originally Posted by patituri
You avoid to answer on the B737 cockpit photos so I attach one from the B737 manual.
It clearly says EICAS for B737.
Enough being polite and wasting my time to find evidence to answer to trolls.
I checked your posts, you seem to have hours only as a FI as you refer only to Cessnas and FI jobs. You have location in USA, but you ask for stuff about EASA. What destroys this profession , are the bottom feeders who are stuck in instructing or small props and can do anything to ride a big jet. They are willing to do starve (or asking paycheques from parents) or bribe in post soviet countries to find themselves flying a jet. I am not talking about the pilots who began from small aircrafts and quickly grabbed the chance for big jets. I am talking for stuck pilots and I know in person some off them. Thatís why nowadays airlines donít pay much or donít offer a commuting roster.
And thatís the case here. As I said they are hiring people with 0 hours on airplanes above 5.7 tones and doubtful a/c equipment despite their requirements.These pilots can replace the pilots who ask for a commuting roster or better salaries.
Because of you people T&C get worse and worse
PS
Checked again your posts regarding FAA EASA conversions, visa questions etc. Seems you are not American neither European. No worries, you can work in Europe, AB doesnít even require a European passport


Just because it is in dictionary doesn't mean it's in the aircraft. Following that logic 737 should be equipped with FAA an Fahrenheit as well as Crew Resource Management.
As far as I know (and I am rated) there is no such thing like EICAS on 73.
Arrogant answers to other posters won't make you smarter.
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Old 24th Feb 2023, 20:40
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Originally Posted by patituri
You avoid to answer on the B737 cockpit photos so I attach one from the B737 manual.
It clearly says EICAS for B737.
Enough being polite and wasting my time to find evidence to answer to trolls.
I checked your posts, you seem to have hours only as a FI as you refer only to Cessnas and FI jobs. You have location in USA, but you ask for stuff about EASA. What destroys this profession , are the bottom feeders who are stuck in instructing or small props and can do anything to ride a big jet. They are willing to do starve (or asking paycheques from parents) or bribe in post soviet countries to find themselves flying a jet. I am not talking about the pilots who began from small aircrafts and quickly grabbed the chance for big jets. I am talking for stuck pilots and I know in person some off them. Thatís why nowadays airlines donít pay much or donít offer a commuting roster.
And thatís the case here. As I said they are hiring people with 0 hours on airplanes above 5.7 tones and doubtful a/c equipment despite their requirements.These pilots can replace the pilots who ask for a commuting roster or better salaries.
Because of you people T&C get worse and worse
PS
Checked again your posts regarding FAA EASA conversions, visa questions etc. Seems you are not American neither European. No worries, you can work in Europe, AB doesnít even require a European passport


Originally Posted by patituri
Thanks! Yes, they also have FMS aircraft in their requirements. I donít think you can just install one, I guess the airplane should be equipped with IRS initially. Maybe the guy who has a friend who sells upgrade kits for LET410 could enlighten us
Plenty of aircraft with FMS, but no IRS. Those are different systems. IRS is nice to have, but not a must for non-ETOPS aircraft.
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Old 24th Feb 2023, 21:19
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Originally Posted by Michael S;[url=tel:11391123
11391123[/url]]Plenty of aircraft with FMS, but no IRS. Those are different systems. IRS is nice to have, but not a must for non-ETOPS aircraft.
Instead of IRS, you can put INS, AHRS etc, it wonít be practical to refer all the alternative systems in every sentence, if you can understand that
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I guess the airplane should be equipped with IRS initially.

That was your sentence. You say specifically about the IRS. Nothing there implies it's only an example.
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Originally Posted by Michael S;[url=tel:11391141
11391141[/url]]I guess the airplane should be equipped with IRS initially.

That was your sentence. You say specifically about the IRS. Nothing there implies it's only an example.
IRS is the most common. Should I have written ďIRS, INS, AHRS and maybe something else that I donít remember nowĒ?
btw does your friend also installs FMS to LET410? I guess is something not so simple cause aircraft should have one off the above equipment initially
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Nope. And he was not my friend. Just someone I worked with for a moment.
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Old 25th Feb 2023, 16:16
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Originally Posted by ave
Sounds like nepotism.
And I was wondering why they failed me since I performed well. “Hey upper management, jet pilots fail, we need to invite also the ones who don’t meet the requirements published on our webpage”
Now I can laugh about it, since just recently I passed another assessment for a company with commuting roster and better salary, not bad at the end of the day
You must missed something without noticing.
AB assessors picked it up, they don't miss anything
Except the check, if candidates meet their webpage requirements
I am just deriding
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Old 26th Feb 2023, 00:40
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Originally Posted by patituri
You avoid to answer on the B737 cockpit photos so I attach one from the B737 manual.
It clearly says EICAS for B737.
Enough being polite and wasting my time to find evidence to answer to trolls.
I checked your posts, you seem to have hours only as a FI as you refer only to Cessnas and FI jobs. You have location in USA, but you ask for stuff about EASA. What destroys this profession , are the bottom feeders who are stuck in instructing or small props and can do anything to ride a big jet. They are willing to do starve (or asking paycheques from parents) or bribe in post soviet countries to find themselves flying a jet. I am not talking about the pilots who began from small aircrafts and quickly grabbed the chance for big jets. I am talking for stuck pilots and I know in person some off them. That’s why nowadays airlines don’t pay much or don’t offer a commuting roster.
And that’s the case here. As I said they are hiring people with 0 hours on airplanes above 5.7 tones and doubtful a/c equipment despite their requirements.These pilots can replace the pilots who ask for a commuting roster or better salaries.
Because of you people T&C get worse and worse
PS
Checked again your posts regarding FAA EASA conversions, visa questions etc. Seems you are not American neither European. No worries, you can work in Europe, AB doesn’t even require a European passport

737 MAX also has Cathode Ray Tubes, because it's in the glossary? You are one of the dumbest people I've ever seen here, that's pretty impressive.

Look at the dates of the posts you looked at. They are 10 years old. I currently fly a Boeing. The Boeing I fly for a living has EICAS, unlike the 737.

737 does not have EICAS. Another poster on this thread has also told you this, and he is typed in the 737. You clearly do not fly any transport category jet. Are you a MSFS pilot?

Have you ever flown, or even been inside the cockpit of a jet?
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