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Old 15th Apr 2023, 19:03
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Originally Posted by ctacik
I see you have location Prague.
Now you know what to do if you are still interested.
Go to Vanair offices and ask them who is the middleman with airBaltic
They will skip all the requirements to hire you, like your fellow Czechs who joined airBaltic in the recent job opening
I don't know how much it will cost you, Latvians love expensive cars
I am very familiar with all “those” unsuccessful ex candidates, who have failed and weren’t selected by the airlines, talking about the unfair treatment and selection process, building up theories about it and trying to spread the rumours of hate with their “sofas expert” opinions. Middle man in Vanair to skip requirements - really funny one!
Unfortunately, by this way you won’t be able to learn from what have happened. At the end, selected candidates are hired based on their qualifications- technical and most important Personal.
Good luck!

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Old 17th Apr 2023, 06:46
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@WaylanderShade nice try with the desperate ad hominem attack but is not the case.
How just a candidate would know things like on 2018 A220 runway excursion both pilots in the cockpit were ladies or like A220 pilots . , . and others who were dismissed cause of the pandemic were not hired again on the reopening? ( I won't continue with other details cause of personal data)
Common sense and practice says that to be selected for ''qualifications- technical and most important Personal'' you need first off all to meet the requirements, just to call you for an assessment.
For example Norse asks to have hours on aircrafts above 50 tons. No matter how good pilot or good guy you think you are you will never have the chance to show to them if you were flying a less heavy aircraft. They will just not call you for assessment.
There are rumors of unfair selection practices for many airlines in this forum but what is really special with airbaltic is that these rumors were confirmed beyond any doubt. These practices destroy our profession, airlines and pilots who try ''shortcuts'' should be faced like enemies. That's why glorious days off being a pilot are gone for good.
Since you honored us to join the conversation, can you tell us if Vanair LET410 complies with the requirements of airbaltic for hours on FMS, EFIS aircraft?

He attacked and then deleted his post

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Old 17th Apr 2023, 18:57
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Originally Posted by ctacik
@WaylanderShade nice try with the desperate ad hominem attack but is not the case.
How just a candidate would know things like on 2018 A220 runway excursion both pilots in the cockpit were ladies or like A220 pilots . , . and others who were dismissed cause of the pandemic were not hired again on the reopening? ( I won't continue with other details cause of personal data)
Common sense and practice says that to be selected for ''qualifications- technical and most important Personal'' you need first off all to meet the requirements, just to call you for an assessment.
For example Norse asks to have hours on aircrafts above 50 tons. No matter how good pilot or good guy you think you are you will never have the chance to show to them if you were flying a less heavy aircraft. They will just not call you for assessment.
There are rumors of unfair selection practices for many airlines in this forum but what is really special with airbaltic is that these rumors were confirmed beyond any doubt. These practices destroy our profession, airlines and pilots who try ''shortcuts'' should be faced like enemies. That's why glorious days off being a pilot are gone for good.
Since you honored us to join the conversation, can you tell us if Vanair LET410 complies with the requirements of airbaltic for hours on FMS, EFIS aircraft?

He attacked and then deleted his post
I saw his post too. He deleted it but what to expect from people like him who bought his way in
I remember writing something like was hired cause of his personality hahahaha
These people are completely shameless. I think it is time someone to send a link of this thread to the top boss, I believe he is not aware of this situation
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Old 20th Apr 2023, 14:01
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Originally Posted by WaylanderShade
I am very familiar with all “those” unsuccessful ex candidates, who have failed and weren’t selected by the airlines, talking about the unfair treatment and selection process, building up theories about it and trying to spread the rumours of hate with their “sofas expert” opinions. Middle man in Vanair to skip requirements - really funny one!
Unfortunately, by this way you won’t be able to learn from what have happened. At the end, selected candidates are hired based on their qualifications- technical and most important Personal.
Good luck!
Facts are more important than motive
It's a free forum you have the opportunity to prove your opponent wrong, and instead of that you speculate about his motive
He was quite clear, you not so
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Old 29th Apr 2023, 06:59
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Originally Posted by WaylanderShade
I am very familiar with all “those” unsuccessful ex candidates, who have failed and weren’t selected by the airlines, talking about the unfair treatment and selection process, building up theories about it and trying to spread the rumours of hate with their “sofas expert” opinions. Middle man in Vanair to skip requirements - really funny one!
Unfortunately, by this way you won’t be able to learn from what have happened. At the end, selected candidates are hired based on their qualifications- technical and most important Personal.
Good luck!
By “theories” you mean that they don’t hire out of the requirements?
I checked their site and saw that they ask FMS EFIS, 5,7
Lets see if the theories are correct or not!
Please tell us.
1. Is it true that they hired multiple L410 pilots from Vainair?
Does Vanair L410 cover these requirements?
2. Is it true that they hired pilots only experienced as Flight Instructors?
We are all ears
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Old 3rd May 2023, 16:34
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Originally Posted by menekse
By “theories” you mean that they don’t hire out of the requirements?
I checked their site and saw that they ask FMS EFIS, 5,7
Lets see if the theories are correct or not!
Please tell us.
1. Is it true that they hired multiple L410 pilots from Vainair?
Does Vanair L410 cover these requirements?
2. Is it true that they hired pilots only experienced as Flight Instructors?
We are all ears
Do you really expect a straight and honest answer from someone who bribed to get a job?
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Old 7th May 2023, 14:08
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Originally Posted by ctacik
Do you really expect a straight and honest answer from someone who bribed to get a job?
Let’s try to avoid the assumptions and stay to the facts. If all these are true, it’s the first time we got a smoking gun
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Old 14th May 2023, 07:28
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Originally Posted by WaylanderShade
I am very familiar with all “those” unsuccessful ex candidates, who have failed and weren’t selected by the airlines, talking about the unfair treatment and selection process, building up theories about it and trying to spread the rumours of hate with their “sofas expert” opinions. Middle man in Vanair to skip requirements - really funny one!
Unfortunately, by this way you won’t be able to learn from what have happened. At the end, selected candidates are hired based on their qualifications- technical and most important Personal.
Good luck!
Why did you change your location from Prague to USA? It’s not that smart hiding now.
I will open a new topic to put all the cases like this one from different airlines. You are invited to post there if you wanna keep your anonymity
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Old 14th May 2023, 22:13
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Just out of curiosity I submitted my cv and AB declined it though I meet all the requirements. 2500 tt, EFIS, airline experience and a good reference. I don't understand why they refuse me.
This is unfair and I will go to press. If some of you guys feel same way, please PM. This nonsense should be published in a newspaper.
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Old 15th May 2023, 07:27
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Originally Posted by Luray
Just out of curiosity I submitted my cv and AB declined it though I meet all the requirements. 2500 tt, EFIS, airline experience and a good reference. I don't understand why they refuse me.
This is unfair and I will go to press. If some of you guys feel same way, please PM. This nonsense should be published in a newspaper.
They have done more weird stuff
Last year they had some internal assessments for the pilots they fired cause of the pandemic
They failed some and in their place upgraded some flight instructors from ab academy to A220 F/O
The pilots who failed were rated on A220 with hours on type, flying for ab before covid and their positions were given to some piston Flight Instructors who were hired in ab academy during the pandemic
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Old 15th May 2023, 14:07
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Originally Posted by ctacik
I wouldn't put my money in an airline with three runway excursions, one aircraft heavily damaged after hard landing in Amsterdam etc etc in the last year.
A major accident is coming and that could put ab out of business
Russian commercial bank Investbank and the Latvian firm Baltijas Aviācijas Sistēmas (BAS), which in 2012, the year the dispute goes back to, held a 47.2% stake in the airbaltic
Now Russians ask 31 millions back
They do flights behalf of Swiss Airlines, I wonder if in Swiss know about all these practices otherwise I am afraid they will learn it with the hard way.
April 19 2023
An Air Baltic Bombardier C-Series CS-300 on behalf of Swiss International Airlines, registration YL-ABM performing flight LX-780 from Zurich (Switzerland) to Brussels (Belgium), was cleared for a VOR Approach to runway 07L when the crew initiated the final descent before the final approach fix. Descending through about 800 feet MSL about 6.5nm before the runway threshold the crew noticed the error and initiated a missed approach, climbed back to 4000 feet MSL, positioned for another approach to runway 07L and landed without further incident about 12 minutes later.
Belgium's Air Accident Investigation Unit have opened an investigation into the occurrence adding that the occurrence happened in VMC.

I bet WaylanderShade was flying that’s why he disappeared
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Old 17th May 2023, 05:35
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6.5nm in the extension of 07L is a populated area
800ft MSL is around 600ft AGL or 500ft above the rooftops, 6,5nm away from the threshold...
Thankfully that happened in VMC otherwise that flight would end up in a certain documentary series
All these pilot induced incidents should have alarmed the recruitment and training teams
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Old 21st May 2023, 14:36
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Originally Posted by WaylanderShade
I am very familiar with all “those” unsuccessful ex candidates, who have failed and weren’t selected by the airlines, talking about the unfair treatment and selection process, building up theories about it and trying to spread the rumours of hate with their “sofas expert” opinions. Middle man in Vanair to skip requirements - really funny one!
Unfortunately, by this way you won’t be able to learn from what have happened. At the end, selected candidates are hired based on their qualifications- technical and most important Personal.
Good luck!
By personal, you mean personal connections?
Cause you keep an EU record for pilot induced incidents
I wonder if it is in Swiss knowledge that you hire people who don't meet the entry requierements
Hope they will cancel the deal before you decent again to 600ft at 12km before the runway and... keep descending if it wasn't in VMC
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Old 2nd Jun 2023, 19:29
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it's now "At least 1000 hours of Commercial Air Transport (CAT) operations on aircraft with EFIS, FMA and FMS systems - MTOW of the aircraft at least 5,7t" iso 300 hours.
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Originally Posted by IFLYyouBREATH;[url=tel:11444876
11444876[/url]]it's now "At least 1000 hours of Commercial Air Transport (CAT) operations on aircraft with EFIS, FMA and FMS systems - MTOW of the aircraft at least 5,7t" iso 300 hours.
I would say that HR thought to use this as an excuse to continue hiring Flight Instructors and L410, Jestream 31pilots cause they “can’t find pilots with 1000 hours on FMS, EFIS aircraft”
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Originally Posted by Luray
In 2019 AB offered me position on A220 as FO. I quit my turboprop airline job and accepted A220 offer. Passed all OCC exams with high scores, never missed a lesson and my attitude was very positive. They planned me first out of my group to get a TR. They gave me a ticket, hotel reservation and per diems. One day before flying to a sim I was called in for a meeting with a chief pilot and he told me I am fired and they have a right of no explanation and that it was not my fault. My TR slot was immediately given to one of their ground instructor/q400 pilot.
When I signed my resignation letter and left, just before office door was shut I heard him and HR lady laughing and making jokes. They didn't care that I left my former airline and had a family to feed. During OCC they constantly fed us with toxic crap - "Joining us is like joining a family, we are all family , famiiilyyyy faaaaamiiillyyyyy" . I am glad my family is not like that, otherwise i'd feed them to dogs.
Happy moving! I also moved and its +20 outside
Hi! I was thinking to apply for airBaltic but after reading your post I have second thoughts.
My motivation is to move from props to jets and relocate in Europe, airBaltic is one of the very few airlines that is not asking for Schengen passport.
Is it common to fire people without a reason? I also saw a post that pilots who were fired during the pandemic were not hired back
I like jets and Europe but I like more job security
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Old 13th Jun 2023, 08:15
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Originally Posted by ctacik
I see you have location Prague.
Now you know what to do if you are still interested.
Go to Vanair offices and ask them who is the middleman with airBaltic
They will skip all the requirements to hire you, like your fellow Czechs who joined airBaltic in the recent job opening
I don't know how much it will cost you, Latvians love expensive cars
Can you check your inbox?
Thank you in advance
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Old 13th Jun 2023, 18:34
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They won't be able to hire you unless you hold a valid residence permit with unrestricted right to live and work in Latvia. And they will ask for it once you apply.
Some unlucky guys were fired without a reason before covid. And yes, some of my colleagus that were ditched amid covid were never called back.
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Originally Posted by motardos
Hi! I was thinking to apply for airBaltic but after reading your post I have second thoughts.
My motivation is to move from props to jets and relocate in Europe, airBaltic is one of the very few airlines that is not asking for Schengen passport.
Is it common to fire people without a reason? I also saw a post that pilots who were fired during the pandemic were not hired back
I like jets and Europe but I like more job security
Originally Posted by OKSUP
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Bottom line is, hiring below a requirement that you publish on a job description is:
1) legal
2) doesn't necessarily mean there is nepotism or bribery. I'd even say these are extrem assumptions but ok...
3) as a hiring manager, you would be dumb to reject someone who displays a great attitude, just because they don't meet 100% of your published requirements. I'm of course not saying that you should disregard completely the requirements, they are here for a reason, which is to filter and give a direction to the applications you receive. But seeing the world as black or white, solely based on job requirements, would be dumb
In case you don't meet the requirements you can pm @OKSUP
He says that he flies for AB. Before he was flying a LET 410 which is NOT an FMS, EFIS, CS25 contrary to entry requirements, so he knows how to skip some details
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Originally Posted by IFLYyouBREATH
it's now "At least 1000 hours of Commercial Air Transport (CAT) operations on aircraft with EFIS, FMA and FMS systems - MTOW of the aircraft at least 5,7t" iso 300 hours.
Originally Posted by batushka
I would say that HR thought to use this as an excuse to continue hiring Flight Instructors and L410, Jestream 31pilots cause they “can’t find pilots with 1000 hours on FMS, EFIS aircraft”
Originally Posted by patituri
Not that I want to fuel an already heated conversation but some Beechcraft 1900 pilots were also hired recently
I think this aircraft is not FMS, CS-25 either
I knew it!
Senior First officers with experience on a non FMS aircraft
Not a surprise
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