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CAE Skype Interview this week. Help

Old 17th Jun 2020, 13:30
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Lammy_pie

The advice given here is maybe not the most 'neutral opinion' but it is the most realistic.
There other types of advice commonly found are frequently biased, due to interests (e.g. flightschool) or coping/confirmation bias, e.g. freshly graduated cadet congitively coping with the current situation (they'll start hiring soon!), or wannabe's posting stuff that supports their dream of becoming a pilot as being the right thing to do atm (it will be over once you're done!)

I invite you to take a look at the "European Airline Pilots" FB group to get a sobering view on the situation. created the 31st of may and 10k+ members already.

Fresh F/O's, SFO's, CPTs, ex-mil drivers, all in shit or about to be. Experienced captains now driving delivery trucks just to get by ---> Should be another red flag: get useful diploma and some work experience before going into pilot training.

You can try and ask your question there. Many first hand stories about the freshly finished cadets, searching for 3-4-5-6 years to find their first job after the 2008 crisis, which imo is rather bleak compared to how covid hit the aviation sector.
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Old 20th Aug 2020, 14:51
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Hello all who need this thread for advice,

I have recently sat the stage 3 interview online via skype with cae oxford.
Please and i beg please do not stress. The interview felt as if it was 5 minutes long yet lasted 40 minutes, questions are as seen on latest pilot jobs and other prep websites. Sit down everyday and go over these questions making yourself comfortable with them. The people who carry out the interview are lovely and patient.
Go in with a free mind, answer questions to the point with some background context, smile be kind and hope for the best. Best of luck to anyone sitting the exams.
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Old 14th Sep 2020, 08:48
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Lovely and patient. I’ll bet they are.

Am I living in a parallel dimension or something? You must need your head examining to even contemplate entering into an integrated flight training contract. There are no jobs and hundreds if not thousands of experienced type rated pilots are out of work in the UK. Add to that the army of CPL/IR holders and then do the maths. These outfits will fill your head full of BS. THEY ARE DESPERATE FOR YOUR CASH. Get a bloody PPL if you like flying so much and bide your time. Do not waste yours or your parents money.
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Old 14th Sep 2020, 12:24
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Apart from Interview practice, which is always valuable
( I hope it was free of charge?) FR KING advice to go down the PPL route, then modular is sound advice in the present circumstances.

Please let us know what the smooooth talking snake oil salesmen are saying to entice punters into Integrated Training. I am intrigued.

Ask them to put it in writing:

i) what safeguards exist to ensure you get “value for money” aka a job

ii) is there any compensation (binding arbitration) for any “porkies” told to make you sign on the dotted line

Then see if an abrupt ending to the conversation occurs........the acid test perhaps?
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Old 14th Sep 2020, 12:53
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Listen, once again as I’ve stated on other pages, cae Oxford is not only integrated and I’m on a university route that requires you to complete your atpls in year 2.

Oxford was an option an hence an interview was necessary, it’s not very expensive at all in terms of atpls only and we are given the choice to use bgs groundschool and tutors on the side at uni.

This forum is for helping and advice. Constantly bombarding the same terminology is quite annoying really. I’m sure everyone is aware by now of “snake oil salesman” and expensive integrated routes. Instead of constant bombardment on these programmes maybe give alternatives and directions, not just get ppl, or “go modular” because 90% of people do modular anyway. Thank you for coming to my ted talk.
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Old 15th Sep 2020, 10:45
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Pprune is a toxic place.. and I feel like Covid has just made it worse.

There is some solid advice to be found in those bashings for sure, but if you want some true advice on certain topics (like interviews), I'd honestly just do a little bit of research on Google and see if I can find some people who went through it before. CAE is certainly not unknown in the flying industry and I'm sure there are people who are more than willing to tell you how their interview went.

Then again, any comment is useful, and if people start giving you advice and/or start bashing your ideas, it might hurt but it's always good to take a step back and listen what they have to say. You don't have to agree and you don't have to do what they tell you to do, but the more input you get from different people, the more information you have to make your own personal decisions. And if that means that you're signing up for an MPL at CAE, then that's on you.

I know, some comments are super annoying, just don't take them too personally. But keep them in mind. Some of them are good advice.
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Old 15th Sep 2020, 23:10
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I think the issue here, and the best advice is the fact there are no jobs now, will not be for many years, don't waste money on training.

Don't listen to people with thousands of hours experience, jump of the cliff, and in 2 - 6 years people will still be hurting from this crisis.

Or believe some nonsense from some flight school, desperate to grab your money, despite them knowing there are NO JOBS out there.
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Old 15th Sep 2020, 23:54
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The problem with this is that essentially every single question about any ATO and/or training in general boils down to just that. Some people telling others not to start training right now. And yes, that's some good advice, and yes that might be true, but that wasn't the question. If the person wanted to get an opinion on what to do, he/she would've asked just that. But if you're asking a simple question and you want simple answers, getting opinions on your personal decisions that you might not even have made yet, is simply annoying and not the point of asking a very specific question.

That's why I said that yes, the advice might be correct and good but if the person wants an actual answer to that question, he/she should rather find some people, reviews or experiences from others on Google than bothering with asking on PPRuNe. As it's a question about flight training, one can be 100% certain that people will start shoving their oh-so-smart advice into people's faces until they get so frustrated with the forum that they never return, simply because they couldn't get a simple answer.
Again, I'm not against giving people advice. But some people seem to think that every person who's interested in flight training right now, is the dumbest person on the planet who will believe everything an ATO has to say without ever questioning it, and that's simply not the case. People know the situation by now, you can read about this on essentially every single topic as I'm sure it'll be mentioned at some point anyway, no matter what the topic used to be before. I'm just against ruining every question and essentially ignoring it, just to say the same thing over and over again.

If you want people to believe you and listen to you, you gotta listen to them as well.
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Old 16th Sep 2020, 06:41
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Originally Posted by Pawly View Post
.........some people seem to think that every person who's interested in flight training right now, is the dumbest person on the planet who will believe everything an ATO has to say without ever questioning it, and that's simply not the case.
Is this statement a generalisation based on your years in aviation training, or simply anecdotal evidence?
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Old 16th Sep 2020, 07:42
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They made you interview for the privilege of giving them thousands of pounds for groundschool, not even the flying course? How arrogant are they!

Money = groundschool course surely.

Genuine question - what on earth could they ask you for 40 minutes when it is just a distance learning course you’ll do sitting at home on a sofa?
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Old 23rd Sep 2020, 11:11
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Understood, but could you please offer an alternative with a cheaper price and close to uni, so that i can still complete my ppl without travelling for hours everyday. Sometimes its not just about Oxford being expensive and crap and the rest, the truth is with all the other bills and course prices, it is merely the same as the rest when factoring in travel and other costs.

Too, you may be right, why an interview if we will only learn online, well one because were not and were attending classes. Anyway, if you can find a better and cheaper alternative that makes my life easier I'm all ears as for now student loans and my father and helping me through this.
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Old 23rd Sep 2020, 14:33
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If it is online study try CAT 3C. Aren’t Oxford groundschool moving imminently to Gatwick?
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Old 23rd Sep 2020, 16:36
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Seconded on Cat3c they’re superb, instructors take real pride in teaching you.

BGS also have an online offering now I believe.
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