Brexit Job Prospects

[magicmick]

Morning all,

Just saw this from Easyjet Switzerland:

https://www.latestpilotjobs.com/jobs/view/id/8537.html

The line that caught my attention is “We unfortunately can't hire anybody with a UK licence in future (due to BREXIT).” Seems a bit bizarre as they recognise CTC and Oxford as approved training providers and they train people for the issue of a UK licence.

This is the first time that I have seen an employer in any business (not just aviation) excluding UK qualified applicants. Perhaps this is their reaction to the possibility of a no deal Brexit.

Will we see other EU employers adopting a similar policy?

Will we see UK airlines blocking those with EU issued licences?

As March 2019 approaches still with no clear direction on Brexit the confusion just seems to deepen.

[rudestuff]

Switzerland isn't in the EU, they can do what they like. An actual EU member wouldn't be allowed to discriminate while we're still in.

[magicmick]

Hi rudestuff

Sorry, I appear to be showing my ignorance, I though that the Swiss were EU members, thanks for the enlightenment. Still seems bizarre that a non EU member recognises licences issued by EU members and rejects a licence issued by a country that is soon to be joining them as a non EU member. But as you point out, they can do what they want.

[Reverserbucket]

soon to be joining them as a non EU member

With no plan in view regarding mutual recognition of flight crew licences etc. Interesting that they state:

All candidates will need to have a Swiss following employment.

I imagine they mean a Swiss issued licence which begs the question, if you have to convert anyway, why are they excluding UK issued licence holders prior to the UK leaving the EU? Once you have Swiss paperwork, what difference could it possibly make whether the UK is in or out?

[tescoapp]

Its to do with EASA membership more than EU membership. Nothing stopping you transferring your UK EASA license to say Irish and then applying.

There are actually quiet a few companies that its a condition of contract that you transfer your license to the local CAA when joining. I did a ZFTR for my current type and the last time the company tried to get one through the UK CAA after the 3rd month they gave up and transferred the license to the local, it was issued 3 days after the SOLI transfer and license transfer which took 3 weeks. Ever since then they have made it a condition of perm contract. EASA is nice in theory but seldom works they way they say it does. It shouldn't matter which authority you apply to for a type rating the same paperwork should result in the same outcome. Very seldom is this the case.

I reckon about 40% of our new FO's over the last 6 months have been UK passport holders. And by the voices on the air from Wizzair they have a load of them as well. With the pound so low its more than viable these days to service a debt while being paid in euros and living in a cheap country.

They just want the pilot to sink the costs for the transfer and its done before the type rating start.

Reverse the UK caa are a pain in the backside with none UK TRTO's its just bits of paper after bits of paper, bottom of the pile every time they knock an application back. Just when you think you have cracked it they ask for another bit of paper which has a tenuous link to the whole process. Nobody contacts you when the process stalls or bit of paper is lost. It just sits there until you contact them. If you do it via email it can take up to 2 weeks to respond to an email. Brexit is just an excuse more likely can't be bothered with the delays and BS involved trying to deal with the UK CAA.

The CAA also seems to be stalling SOLI and license documents, last one that I heard about was 8 weeks from start to finish with a no issue transfer of an ATPL.