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Old 10th Jul 2018, 19:01
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Originally Posted by Selhezad View Post
I got my call this afternoon, so don't lose your hopes just yet.
For those wondering about switching SIMs and so on: I had my mobile phone off, but I got both a voice mail and an email from them asking me to call them back.

They offered me the 26th of July, so bearing in mind the next stage (according to their website) is from the 16th to the 27th, I'm not sure if that means they only have the 26th and the 27th left to fill out (I didn't ask). However I had the feeling my interview was quite a bad one, not happy at all with it, and I had several crashes in the exercise about flying through the holes, so I honestly thought I was out of the competition. So I believe what might have happened is that I was in that "no email/no call" group some of you are talking about that they are using to fill out the gaps after offering it to the real successful candidates (in which case it doesn't matter they offered me the 26th or the 17th, it was just a gap they had?). Not complaining though of course, quite the opposite, I'm really happy about it and just grateful that I'm getting the chance to progress! But just to share some info about it.

(And following another discussion earlier on: I'm Spanish, not Irish).
Please, what does the invite mail say about documents? Which ones should be presented at next stage?

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Old 10th Jul 2018, 19:33
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Please, what does the invite mail say about documents? Which ones should be presented at next stage?

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It's all related to what they had previously advised in the website, nothing new:

Essential criteria for application

  • 18 years of age on or before 1st January 2018
  • Fluent in written and spoken English
  • Eligible to live and work permanently in the EU
  • Up-to-date unrestricted worldwide passport
  • Able to pass an airport security vetting procedure, including a five-year background check*
  • Two verifiable references
  • Able to obtain an EASA / IAA issued Class 1 Medical, including successfully passing a colour blindness test. Please refer to www.iaa.ie prior to application to ensure you can meet all medical requirements in line with eyesight/colour blindness limitations
*If you are a not an Irish citizen, you will require a current police disclosure certificate from your home country if successful

*If you have resided outside the Republic of Ireland for six months or more, you will also require a current police disclosure certificate from that country/countries

Minimum Educational criteria:

  • You must have passed your Leaving Certificate (6 subjects) or equivalent
  • You must have obtained O5 grades in English and Mathematics at ordinary level or H6 at higher level in the Leaving Certificate
  • You must also have a minimum of 2 higher level subjects with a minimum of H5 grades in the Leaving Certificate
    *Equivalent grades are as follows:
    • GCSE Maths and English must be minimum of grade C plus
    • 3 A Levels taken at A2 level in any subject with minimum grades C,C,D
Where the minimum Leaving Certificate or equivalent grades have not been met, you must have one of the following qualifications:
  • A minimum of a Level 7 third level (ordinary degree) in any discipline
  • Completed an aviation-related apprenticeship

Next stages of the process

(...)
  • Please note that you will be required to provide copies of your Leaving Certificate or equivalent (including any third level degree or aviation related apprenticeship) to verify that you meet the essential criteria at the group assessment centre stage in Dublin

Ie: proof of ID (passport, utlity bill/proof of address, photo...), police disclosure certificate, references, colour blindness test, Leaving Certificate results/equivalent/any further studies...
I'm struggling with the police disclosure certificate within the time given as it's a very slow process, but due to the time constraints they only ask for proof that at least you have requested it. I guess that means it will be mandatory only in a possible last stage, or if there is no further stages then maybe just in case they finally choose you.

If you are wondering about the Class 1, they haven't asked for that just yet, only the colour blindness test that you can get from any optician. In their website they specify though "Part of the selection process involves passing a Class 1 and company medical", so maybe they pay for it if you are chosen, who knows.
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Old 11th Jul 2018, 03:52
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Thank you Since I need to have docs translated to English ( needs extra time), I just wanted to know what is the real scope one should expect
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Old 11th Jul 2018, 05:28
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As long as you have the forms filled out it's fine, and as long as you can prove your academic results it's all good. You aren't expected to have a completely completed police disclosure for the assessment day.
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Old 11th Jul 2018, 05:42
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Originally Posted by FlyVeryHigh- View Post
As long as you have the forms filled out it's fine, and as long as you can prove your academic results it's all good. You aren't expected to have a completely completed police disclosure for the assessment day.
I may be overthinking this but do you think utility bills/bank statements should be translated? They asked for all documents to be translated. I do find translating a utility bill a bit odd though.
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Old 11th Jul 2018, 06:33
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Originally Posted by FlyVeryHigh- View Post
As long as you have the forms filled out it's fine, and as long as you can prove your academic results it's all good. You aren't expected to have a completely completed police disclosure for the assessment day.
Actually, police disclosure here is easy to get via e-Police portal (one of rare items that actually work in the country like that). I just need to translate it.

@Jaair - perhaps there is some other document you can provide to prove residence - why would an Utility bill be addressed to you? I do not get the point why do they ask for it.
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Old 11th Jul 2018, 06:52
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Actually, police disclosure here is easy to get via e-Police portal (one of rare items that actually work in the country like that). I just need to translate it.

@Jaair - perhaps there is some other document you can provide to prove residence - why would an Utility bill be addressed to you? I do not get the point why do they ask for it.
The criminal record certificate in my country is also provided within minutes when requested in person.

A utility bill is an accepted form of proof of address, but they also accept bank statements I believe.
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Old 11th Jul 2018, 07:08
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We have that address on ID card and passport and it is mandatory data like social security no. I guess a copy of that would be enough.
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Old 11th Jul 2018, 08:25
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just wondering - are here some German people who will attend the assessment day?
Maybe we can exchange some information (PM?) :-)

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Old 11th Jul 2018, 09:58
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Originally Posted by 79er View Post
Actually, police disclosure here is easy to get via e-Police portal (one of rare items that actually work in the country like that). I just need to translate it.

@Jaair - perhaps there is some other document you can provide to prove residence - why would an Utility bill be addressed to you? I do not get the point why do they ask for it.
Where in the email does it say that documents need to be translated to English? Everything I have (from the Bachelor Diploma to the Police Disclosure Certificate) is written in my mother tongue, which is not English. Is it OK if I bring them translated by myself, or do I need to complete any special procedure to translate them and keep them as "official"?

Furthermore, have you guys received the Garda Vetting Invitation Form to complete? Because it asks for an "AIC person number" which was not provided to me.

Thank you in advance for your help,
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Old 11th Jul 2018, 11:44
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Got my No NO e mail today ...would have been too good to be true on a first attempt.....but this competition has left me at the beginning of a new journey ..my PPL started and a lot of love for flying ....good luck to all for the next stage !.
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Old 11th Jul 2018, 12:12
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Got my No NO e mail today ...would have been too good to be true on a first attempt.....but this competition has left me at the beginning of a new journey ..my PPL started and a lot of love for flying ....good luck to all for the next stage !.
Well good on you for applying and onwards and upwards with your flying career!

I'm convinced that I'll also get a NO soon enough, because of previous flying experience (had almost completed PPL when applying, now complete). Out of curiosity, has anybody who has received a YES had any previous flying experience?
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Old 11th Jul 2018, 13:53
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Where in the email does it say that documents need to be translated to English? Everything I have (from the Bachelor Diploma to the Police Disclosure Certificate) is written in my mother tongue, which is not English. Is it OK if I bring them translated by myself, or do I need to complete any special procedure to translate them and keep them as "official"?

Furthermore, have you guys received the Garda Vetting Invitation Form to complete? Because it asks for an "AIC person number" which was not provided to me.

Thank you in advance for your help,
Also from Spain here and I thought you could request the certificate in English? At least one of the things you were required to specify when asking for it is in regards to the country you need this for, and I was assuming that involved translation into that language? (Iím still waiting for the certificate to come). I also believe translation of the documents is required (other certificates you can actually get those directly in English, eg the University degree), but right now I don't remember if I had read it somewhere or if it was just my mind playing tricks.

Regarding the form, just leave that cell blank. It specifies there something like "new entries will be provided with a number after receiving the form", meaning you don't have one when submitting this.
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Old 11th Jul 2018, 14:20
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Got my No but like Ana, working getting all my certs...the yeses will come soon enough with time and patience. GL to all who made it and those still waiting.
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Old 11th Jul 2018, 15:02
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Originally Posted by Selhezad View Post
Also from Spain here and I thought you could request the certificate in English? At least one of the things you were required to specify when asking for it is in regards to the country you need this for, and I was assuming that involved translation into that language? (Iím still waiting for the certificate to come). I also believe translation of the documents is required (other certificates you can actually get those directly in English, eg the University degree), but right now I don't remember if I had read it somewhere or if it was just my mind playing tricks.

Regarding the form, just leave that cell blank. It specifies there something like "new entries will be provided with a number after receiving the form", meaning you don't have one when submitting this.
I phoned the Ministerio de Justicia and they said they only issue it in Spanish unfortuntely.
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Old 11th Jul 2018, 15:13
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I wouldn't worry, it says nothing about it having to be in english. This is something all their crew would have had to provide at some stage and they have crew from all across europe, so I'm sure they encounter non english background checks all the time
........I'm still waiting btw 😩
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Old 11th Jul 2018, 15:35
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Originally Posted by ana36 View Post
Got my No NO e mail today ...would have been too good to be true on a first attempt.....but this competition has left me at the beginning of a new journey ..my PPL started and a lot of love for flying ....good luck to all for the next stage !.
Hard luck Ana. You'll get there eventually. Do you mind me asking what date you submitted the online assessments?
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Old 11th Jul 2018, 19:59
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The Recruitment Team confirmed me that the documents you provide have to be translated in English. I assume you have to get them translated by a certified translator.
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Old 12th Jul 2018, 04:47
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Sure Thing... That would mean paying at least 200Ä for translations. German Leaving certificate costs 90Ä to be translated for example (cheap website btw).
And what kind of joke is it to translate a post-it-note from my optician (eye doctor) stating i passed the ishihara...

I would relax at that time... If they want translations, i get them. But not right now.... Too much money for the small chance.
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Old 12th Jul 2018, 08:24
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What's the latest info regarding invites? Seemed earlier in the week they were still going through applications, we're now 4 days from the start of the assessments. Are we going to see those who haven't heard yet being rejected or additional assessment days added to cope with the extra volume of applicants?
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