Aer Lingus Future Pilot Programme 2018
Join Date: May 2018
Location: Cork
Posts: 5
Originally Posted by FlyVeryHigh-
Italian, British (Scotland, Northern Ireland (British/Irish depending on your view!), English), French and I believe German have all previously been selected. Of course a lot of Irish get it, it's an Irish airline and one many Irish people want to work for. In my opinion it's a fairly fair process and if you're good enough you'll be selected. If you're not you won't, just like a lot of Irish applicants who aren't selected in the end either.
Much agreed great applicants come from all over, I've worked with many switched on people from all over Europe and further afield.
Saying that however, Air France could be reminded of this when they put "Fluent French" as an entry requirement to their scheme, along with many other airlines in EU who run Cadet Pilot schemes. IMO this closes off some good applicants from across Europe and is a subtle way in accepting home applicants.
Much agreed great applicants come from all over, I've worked with many switched on people from all over Europe and further afield.
Saying that however, Air France could be reminded of this when they put "Fluent French" as an entry requirement to their scheme, along with many other airlines in EU who run Cadet Pilot schemes. IMO this closes off some good applicants from across Europe and is a subtle way in accepting home applicants.
Join Date: Jul 2018
Location: Cambridge
Posts: 2
Originally Posted by Tango_Hector
Just received my.... rejection email 
Good luck to everyone ! The competition will be tough but I'm sure you will do your best.
Good luck to everyone ! The competition will be tough but I'm sure you will do your best.Join Date: Jun 2018
Location: Eu
Posts: 21
Papers
Originally Posted by Selhezad
I got my call this afternoon, so don't lose your hopes just yet.
For those wondering about switching SIMs and so on: I had my mobile phone off, but I got both a voice mail and an email from them asking me to call them back.
They offered me the 26th of July, so bearing in mind the next stage (according to their website) is from the 16th to the 27th, I'm not sure if that means they only have the 26th and the 27th left to fill out (I didn't ask). However I had the feeling my interview was quite a bad one, not happy at all with it, and I had several crashes in the exercise about flying through the holes, so I honestly thought I was out of the competition. So I believe what might have happened is that I was in that "no email/no call" group some of you are talking about that they are using to fill out the gaps after offering it to the real successful candidates (in which case it doesn't matter they offered me the 26th or the 17th, it was just a gap they had?). Not complaining though of course, quite the opposite, I'm really happy about it and just grateful that I'm getting the chance to progress! But just to share some info about it.
(And following another discussion earlier on: I'm Spanish, not Irish).
For those wondering about switching SIMs and so on: I had my mobile phone off, but I got both a voice mail and an email from them asking me to call them back.
They offered me the 26th of July, so bearing in mind the next stage (according to their website) is from the 16th to the 27th, I'm not sure if that means they only have the 26th and the 27th left to fill out (I didn't ask). However I had the feeling my interview was quite a bad one, not happy at all with it, and I had several crashes in the exercise about flying through the holes, so I honestly thought I was out of the competition. So I believe what might have happened is that I was in that "no email/no call" group some of you are talking about that they are using to fill out the gaps after offering it to the real successful candidates (in which case it doesn't matter they offered me the 26th or the 17th, it was just a gap they had?). Not complaining though of course, quite the opposite, I'm really happy about it and just grateful that I'm getting the chance to progress! But just to share some info about it.
(And following another discussion earlier on: I'm Spanish, not Irish).
Thanks
Join Date: Jul 2018
Location: World
Posts: 3
Originally Posted by 79er
Please, what does the invite mail say about documents? Which ones should be presented at next stage?
Thanks
Thanks
Essential criteria for application
- 18 years of age on or before 1st January 2018
- Fluent in written and spoken English
- Eligible to live and work permanently in the EU
- Up-to-date unrestricted worldwide passport
- Able to pass an airport security vetting procedure, including a five-year background check*
- Two verifiable references
- Able to obtain an EASA / IAA issued Class 1 Medical, including successfully passing a colour blindness test. Please refer to www.iaa.ie prior to application to ensure you can meet all medical requirements in line with eyesight/colour blindness limitations
*If you have resided outside the Republic of Ireland for six months or more, you will also require a current police disclosure certificate from that country/countries
Minimum Educational criteria:
- You must have passed your Leaving Certificate (6 subjects) or equivalent
- You must have obtained O5 grades in English and Mathematics at ordinary level or H6 at higher level in the Leaving Certificate
- You must also have a minimum of 2 higher level subjects with a minimum of H5 grades in the Leaving Certificate
*Equivalent grades are as follows:- GCSE Maths and English must be minimum of grade C plus
- 3 A Levels taken at A2 level in any subject with minimum grades C,C,D
- A minimum of a Level 7 third level (ordinary degree) in any discipline
- Completed an aviation-related apprenticeship
Next stages of the process
(...)- Please note that you will be required to provide copies of your Leaving Certificate or equivalent (including any third level degree or aviation related apprenticeship) to verify that you meet the essential criteria at the group assessment centre stage in Dublin
Ie: proof of ID (passport, utlity bill/proof of address, photo...), police disclosure certificate, references, colour blindness test, Leaving Certificate results/equivalent/any further studies...
I'm struggling with the police disclosure certificate within the time given as it's a very slow process, but due to the time constraints they only ask for proof that at least you have requested it. I guess that means it will be mandatory only in a possible last stage, or if there is no further stages then maybe just in case they finally choose you.
If you are wondering about the Class 1, they haven't asked for that just yet, only the colour blindness test that you can get from any optician. In their website they specify though "Part of the selection process involves passing a Class 1 and company medical", so maybe they pay for it if you are chosen, who knows.
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Cornwall
Age: 30
Posts: 202
As long as you have the forms filled out it's fine, and as long as you can prove your academic results it's all good. You aren't expected to have a completely completed police disclosure for the assessment day.
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Spain
Posts: 164
Originally Posted by FlyVeryHigh-
As long as you have the forms filled out it's fine, and as long as you can prove your academic results it's all good. You aren't expected to have a completely completed police disclosure for the assessment day.
Join Date: Jun 2018
Location: Eu
Posts: 21
Originally Posted by FlyVeryHigh-
As long as you have the forms filled out it's fine, and as long as you can prove your academic results it's all good. You aren't expected to have a completely completed police disclosure for the assessment day.
@Jaair - perhaps there is some other document you can provide to prove residence - why would an Utility bill be addressed to you? I do not get the point why do they ask for it.
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Spain
Posts: 164
Originally Posted by 79er
Actually, police disclosure here is easy to get via e-Police portal (one of rare items that actually work in the country like that). I just need to translate it.
@Jaair - perhaps there is some other document you can provide to prove residence - why would an Utility bill be addressed to you? I do not get the point why do they ask for it.
@Jaair - perhaps there is some other document you can provide to prove residence - why would an Utility bill be addressed to you? I do not get the point why do they ask for it.
A utility bill is an accepted form of proof of address, but they also accept bank statements I believe.
Join Date: Jul 2018
Location: Germany
Posts: 8
just wondering - are here some German people who will attend the assessment day?
Maybe we can exchange some information (PM?) :-)
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Maybe we can exchange some information (PM?) :-)
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Join Date: May 2018
Location: Spain
Posts: 7
Originally Posted by 79er
Actually, police disclosure here is easy to get via e-Police portal (one of rare items that actually work in the country like that). I just need to translate it.
@Jaair - perhaps there is some other document you can provide to prove residence - why would an Utility bill be addressed to you? I do not get the point why do they ask for it.
@Jaair - perhaps there is some other document you can provide to prove residence - why would an Utility bill be addressed to you? I do not get the point why do they ask for it.
Furthermore, have you guys received the Garda Vetting Invitation Form to complete? Because it asks for an "AIC person number" which was not provided to me.
Thank you in advance for your help,
Join Date: May 2018
Location: NORTHERN IRELAND
Posts: 51
Got my No NO e mail today ...would have been too good to be true on a first attempt.....but this competition has left me at the beginning of a new journey ..my PPL started and a lot of love for flying ....good luck to all for the next stage !.
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: Europe
Posts: 21
Originally Posted by ana36
Got my No NO e mail today ...would have been too good to be true on a first attempt.....but this competition has left me at the beginning of a new journey ..my PPL started and a lot of love for flying ....good luck to all for the next stage !.
I'm convinced that I'll also get a NO soon enough, because of previous flying experience (had almost completed PPL when applying, now complete). Out of curiosity, has anybody who has received a YES had any previous flying experience?
Join Date: Jul 2018
Location: World
Posts: 3
Originally Posted by f22feynman
Where in the email does it say that documents need to be translated to English? Everything I have (from the Bachelor Diploma to the Police Disclosure Certificate) is written in my mother tongue, which is not English. Is it OK if I bring them translated by myself, or do I need to complete any special procedure to translate them and keep them as "official"?
Furthermore, have you guys received the Garda Vetting Invitation Form to complete? Because it asks for an "AIC person number" which was not provided to me.
Thank you in advance for your help,
Furthermore, have you guys received the Garda Vetting Invitation Form to complete? Because it asks for an "AIC person number" which was not provided to me.
Thank you in advance for your help,
Regarding the form, just leave that cell blank. It specifies there something like "new entries will be provided with a number after receiving the form", meaning you don't have one when submitting this.
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Spain
Posts: 164
Originally Posted by Selhezad
Also from Spain here and I thought you could request the certificate in English? At least one of the things you were required to specify when asking for it is in regards to the country you need this for, and I was assuming that involved translation into that language? (I’m still waiting for the certificate to come). I also believe translation of the documents is required (other certificates you can actually get those directly in English, eg the University degree), but right now I don't remember if I had read it somewhere or if it was just my mind playing tricks.
Regarding the form, just leave that cell blank. It specifies there something like "new entries will be provided with a number after receiving the form", meaning you don't have one when submitting this.
Regarding the form, just leave that cell blank. It specifies there something like "new entries will be provided with a number after receiving the form", meaning you don't have one when submitting this.
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Canada
Age: 37
Posts: 17
I wouldn't worry, it says nothing about it having to be in english. This is something all their crew would have had to provide at some stage and they have crew from all across europe, so I'm sure they encounter non english background checks all the time
........I'm still waiting btw 😩
........I'm still waiting btw 😩
