SmartLynx

[Wertytg]

I have a friend who was working with smarlynx, he was really happy, now he is waiting (he was layoff) for the call to start again, no date yet, so I will not pay 30k or 35k for a TR when there are pilots who worked there waiting to rejoin, also the tr last year was 20k, so keep that money in your pocket for now, and wait a little bit

[Klimax]

Unfortunately it's commonly known, that some of these low cost, bottom feeder, airlines prefers taking onboard new low-time pilots, rather than holding onto their own, and make a profit off the new joiner paying for his type rating, while at the same time keeping the operating cost of down ((lower on the pay scale). So, as much as pay-2-fly is disgusting and sad in itself - and frowned upon in general - just don't be so surprise if the new joiner comes in before the pilots who were let go during Covid. Money first.

[polskiland]

Wertytg

This basically, guys who paid 20k still haven't done any line training or whatsoever

[Hogos]

Words in a contract are very important, since they say "job guaranteed" and I pay an extra 5k, there must be something different.
If I don't get the job, for whatever reason, why should I pay more than the others who are only "considered" for the opportunity ?

[Rt Hon Jim Hacker MP]

How can you call it a job? A job is when an employer pays you for your services. Paying somebody to sit in the front of their not so shiny jet is called exploitation. It would only happen in aviation. Can you imagine the rail unions allowing their members to pay for their training?

[Rocket61]

Hogos

Hi, welcome in to the world, I hope you had a safe journey !

More seriously, I doubt that it would be written "job guaranteed" in the contract, but more "job guaranteed if position available". And if it is, I know nothing about Lettonian law, but not sure it will be a big issue... Why would you pay an extra 5k ? Because this is business based on the fact that some fools will always believe it and go for it.

[Hogos]

Rt Hon Jim Hacker MP

If they give you an employment, of course they will pay you. If they don't, they're lying (which is not unlikely).
We can talk for years that paying for having the job is unfair and unethical, but if you sign a contract there will be a salary (I hope).
If it's a farce, then it's another matter.

[Easy_flyer1992]

I am interested too, especially for the second option ì, i tried to ask what type of contract is offered and they answered that is a service agreement agency.
This should be really close to the ryanair program where new cadets are hired by third parties and not by Ryan.

[hsilva7]

Hi guys.

During last week, I sent an e-mail requesting some information regarding the 35k option (Job guarantee). I keep forwarding the e-mail to them in order to get an answer and nothing...
does anyone is facing the same lack of response from their part?

Does anyone has more detailed information, regarding this offer?

Thanks..

[Contact Approach]

Stop paying to work you morons!

[hsilva7]

I cannot understand your perspective sometimes Contact Approach!

What do you want us to do?! Being seated on a chair, waiting for something suddenly to happen....

i am a newly cadet, with 210h total flight, if you have any suggestion for guys like me, that don't have any idea of what to do next, we would be very pleased!!!

[Contact Approach]

What he said.
The sheer desperation / stupidly of those coming through currently is astounding. Go get a job that pays the bills instead of throwing away money you don’t have on a job that does not exist. Wait for the world to recover and then reassess your situation. It really isn’t that hard.

[Easy_flyer1992]

They answered telling me that will be a agency contract, sincerely i do not know if worth it......but almost everywhere you have to pay, especially for low cost and it was the same also before covid 19.
Anyway need to be really careful!!

[Easy_flyer1992]

All low cost act in this way, not only SmartLynx and cadets like me are out of “radar” of big companies that always are looking for experienced f/o min 500hr or have their own cadet program.
Ryan is doing the same thing.
I’m not going to work for free, that’s for sure, but at the begging sacrifices are required.
Anyway is just my point of view

[Contact Approach]

What a load of rubbish.

[Pinuz89]

I'm not defending this company, nor these agencies, but from what I heard here, it's not the classical P2F scheme, they actually are not asking money for doing hours.

I mean, this is absolutely not the right time to undergo a self-sponsored Type Rating, and I totally agree that accepting ridiculous salaries ruins the market, but this airline is not asking you to pay for flying, like many others.

[Banana Joe]

What is it asking for then?

[Pinuz89]

If they give you the job, they pay you.
P2F is the opposite, you pay for flying

[Contact Approach]

In what other industry would you pay 35k for a job!?

[Pinuz89]

You probably don't know what it means to open a business.
And you can probably break-even after years, being a lucky one.