Flydubai B737NG Type Qualification Program
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To get a TR on licence you dont need an ATPL, hence me and im sure many would not have been flying commercially. (Under JAR/EASA)
What I was putting was from memory to work in UAE as an Expat you needed an ATPL.
What I was putting was from memory to work in UAE as an Expat you needed an ATPL.
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Perhaps the ATPL isnt required then to work there, quite a few others in the middle east forum where also thinking it was needed.
Perhaps its just that particular company asking for it that there all working for.
Perhaps its just that particular company asking for it that there all working for.
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Reviews from anyone who has completed the B737 TR with CAE Dubai under this FlyDubai "scheme". Does someone even come to assess you from FlyDubai?
I read someone claiming 30% people were selected
. Anyone amongst them here? Need authenticity for this program. 
I read someone claiming 30% people were selected
. Anyone amongst them here? Need authenticity for this program.
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Yes I'm bitter
Hi there,
I just completed my type rating with CAE/Fly Dubai.
I just finished flight school in December & was a young hopeful looking for something in a jobless market. This opportunity looked good to me.
IMO the training is not very good my instructors first language was not English and we had communication issues. All in all CAE is a nice training centre and I certainly felt like a professional pilot training there, I will certainly miss the free snickers bars and unlimited Coca cola on break times!
On the day of my theory exam we all failed it's was tough very hard questions! I got the highest mark 57% the other guys where in the 40's we re-took the exam after being given the answers!! And got high marks!
On the day of the check ride a Arabic looking guy called riyamy or something turned up to watch how we got on, the examiner was American and none if us had seen either of these people before, it didn't go very well for me that day, mind went blank a lot, perhaps the pressure or nerves?
With My steep turns I lost 300ft in alt and my speed would not stay at 250 KTS I also found it hard to maintain 45 degree bank, as I lost speed my alt dropped and the my bank came in to 35 degree it was a nightmare, I was told to continue and we would come back to the steep turns later.
Then came the VOR approach circle to land, I busted an altitude on the inbound turn at 10 DME when I should have held 2,000 till 6DME at this point the sim froze and the TRE asked me how I thought it was going? I said sheepishly not so great, he then said ok let's have a chat in the briefing room, he then tenderly explained to me that I had failed the check ride.
I got back to my hotel and felt the worst feeling of depression I have ever felt in my life! I found it hard to catch my breath and breathe.
After a few days I pulled myself together I got an e-mail from fly Dubai thanking me for my time but they will not be taking anything further with me, and CAE suggesting 3 extra session & a re-test in the sim at $$$$$ cost, of course I did the extra sessions and passed my skill test but now I am type rated and have no opportunity here. I went back to Wales upset and bitter about it all.
I honestly think if you are a 250 hour pilot straight out of flight school this 737 is just too much to take on with that experience & impress the likes of Fly Dubai with your piloting skills. Yes you can learn it & pass a check ride, but with 13 FFS your not going to impress them, you will just know enough to pass the check.
All of my fellow students agreed a 737 compared to what we are learning in flight school on a duchess is so different and much harder, I reckon you need 3 months just to get a grasp on the systems and theory of the machine. Too much to know! Not enough time.
Of the 6 candidates in my pool 2 were called for interview and later those 2 where given good luck with your career letters from fly Dubai. The 2 that did get invited to interview where flight instructors both with 1,000 hours TT both guys where top notch IMO and still we are all out of pocket with no job.
What a great money spinner for CAE, it certainly explains all the Ferraris and Porsches parked in the VIP car park there!! Avoid!!!
I just completed my type rating with CAE/Fly Dubai.
I just finished flight school in December & was a young hopeful looking for something in a jobless market. This opportunity looked good to me.
IMO the training is not very good my instructors first language was not English and we had communication issues. All in all CAE is a nice training centre and I certainly felt like a professional pilot training there, I will certainly miss the free snickers bars and unlimited Coca cola on break times!
On the day of my theory exam we all failed it's was tough very hard questions! I got the highest mark 57% the other guys where in the 40's we re-took the exam after being given the answers!! And got high marks!
On the day of the check ride a Arabic looking guy called riyamy or something turned up to watch how we got on, the examiner was American and none if us had seen either of these people before, it didn't go very well for me that day, mind went blank a lot, perhaps the pressure or nerves?
With My steep turns I lost 300ft in alt and my speed would not stay at 250 KTS I also found it hard to maintain 45 degree bank, as I lost speed my alt dropped and the my bank came in to 35 degree it was a nightmare, I was told to continue and we would come back to the steep turns later.
Then came the VOR approach circle to land, I busted an altitude on the inbound turn at 10 DME when I should have held 2,000 till 6DME at this point the sim froze and the TRE asked me how I thought it was going? I said sheepishly not so great, he then said ok let's have a chat in the briefing room, he then tenderly explained to me that I had failed the check ride.
I got back to my hotel and felt the worst feeling of depression I have ever felt in my life! I found it hard to catch my breath and breathe.
After a few days I pulled myself together I got an e-mail from fly Dubai thanking me for my time but they will not be taking anything further with me, and CAE suggesting 3 extra session & a re-test in the sim at $$$$$ cost, of course I did the extra sessions and passed my skill test but now I am type rated and have no opportunity here. I went back to Wales upset and bitter about it all.
I honestly think if you are a 250 hour pilot straight out of flight school this 737 is just too much to take on with that experience & impress the likes of Fly Dubai with your piloting skills. Yes you can learn it & pass a check ride, but with 13 FFS your not going to impress them, you will just know enough to pass the check.
All of my fellow students agreed a 737 compared to what we are learning in flight school on a duchess is so different and much harder, I reckon you need 3 months just to get a grasp on the systems and theory of the machine. Too much to know! Not enough time.
Of the 6 candidates in my pool 2 were called for interview and later those 2 where given good luck with your career letters from fly Dubai. The 2 that did get invited to interview where flight instructors both with 1,000 hours TT both guys where top notch IMO and still we are all out of pocket with no job.
What a great money spinner for CAE, it certainly explains all the Ferraris and Porsches parked in the VIP car park there!! Avoid!!!
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Nice feedback, well done! most people don't care to share their experience!
A type Rating will always be hard and it always goes quick. This is when a decent selection process comes in very handy! In fact you should know already before you start your training if you would be able to handle a jet type rating. Now they don't care anymore and they let everybody start. If the type rating is given by a professional team in instructors and your basic skills are good then you should be able to get it done.
I hope you can find a job now as a type rated pilot, good luck with all this and once again well done on the feedback. I hope it make some guys/girls think all these things very carefully!
all the best
A type Rating will always be hard and it always goes quick. This is when a decent selection process comes in very handy! In fact you should know already before you start your training if you would be able to handle a jet type rating. Now they don't care anymore and they let everybody start. If the type rating is given by a professional team in instructors and your basic skills are good then you should be able to get it done.
I hope you can find a job now as a type rated pilot, good luck with all this and once again well done on the feedback. I hope it make some guys/girls think all these things very carefully!
all the best
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Hey pilot-Hans,
Yes they just let me start without too much concern about wether I was suitable to under go the training.
Even after I passed my check ride I still felt like they gave me the rating out of sympathy, I guess I will never touch their aircraft so it's easy to give a rating when that's the case.
Looking back if I am honest the aircraft was too fast & too complicated for me & I let my dreams become my master. This kind of airplane is something I should be looking at much later down the line, as for what next for me, I am looking at instructing on a part time basis.
I always read on the job ads 500 hours on type, I use to wonder why airlines wanted this figure, why not 300? Why not 3000? But honestly I can see now that after 500 hours on this machine you would become much less of a liability to the airline hiring you, any less and you are a risk of not knowing the machine well enough, that's what I made of my time at CAE.
Well here's to the future, but honestly if more people go for this with an expectation you will get hired think again, there are cheaper type ratings to be had, CAE are exploiting Fly Dubai to sell more ratings.
Yes they just let me start without too much concern about wether I was suitable to under go the training.
Even after I passed my check ride I still felt like they gave me the rating out of sympathy, I guess I will never touch their aircraft so it's easy to give a rating when that's the case.
Looking back if I am honest the aircraft was too fast & too complicated for me & I let my dreams become my master. This kind of airplane is something I should be looking at much later down the line, as for what next for me, I am looking at instructing on a part time basis.
I always read on the job ads 500 hours on type, I use to wonder why airlines wanted this figure, why not 300? Why not 3000? But honestly I can see now that after 500 hours on this machine you would become much less of a liability to the airline hiring you, any less and you are a risk of not knowing the machine well enough, that's what I made of my time at CAE.
Well here's to the future, but honestly if more people go for this with an expectation you will get hired think again, there are cheaper type ratings to be had, CAE are exploiting Fly Dubai to sell more ratings.
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Alive, its nice to see an honest review.
Its a shame you had to learn the hard way that trying to impress with so few hours is very hard.
My hope would be others may learn from your experience that doing a TR with no definite of a job and its a chance only of them taking you is a costly experience.
Its a shame you had to learn the hard way that trying to impress with so few hours is very hard.
My hope would be others may learn from your experience that doing a TR with no definite of a job and its a chance only of them taking you is a costly experience.
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@Alive
I really feel sorry for you. I hope that your story open the eyes of many (probably not). It is really a pitty that all this money has been lost. Perhaps if you go the instructor route combined with the typerating you already have, that it will open new doors. But that also means that you have to do a lpc check to keep your rating valid.
I am also wondering if you had a good simpartner? Normally if you had to do steep turns, you could have used him as a tool, to check, to adjust power, to give call outs etc. The simpartner can make or break you, to some extend ofcourse. Did he say anything about your altitude you were about to violate?
Did you have to pay a lot for this course? And did you do your touch and go's?
It is really sad to hear that you are now bitter. But if you are honest for yourself, and could have joined ryanair (or other sstr company) would things be different? Would you also fail and struggling?
I really feel sorry for you. I hope that your story open the eyes of many (probably not). It is really a pitty that all this money has been lost. Perhaps if you go the instructor route combined with the typerating you already have, that it will open new doors. But that also means that you have to do a lpc check to keep your rating valid.
I am also wondering if you had a good simpartner? Normally if you had to do steep turns, you could have used him as a tool, to check, to adjust power, to give call outs etc. The simpartner can make or break you, to some extend ofcourse. Did he say anything about your altitude you were about to violate?
Did you have to pay a lot for this course? And did you do your touch and go's?
It is really sad to hear that you are now bitter. But if you are honest for yourself, and could have joined ryanair (or other sstr company) would things be different? Would you also fail and struggling?
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Sweetener
Just wanted to give some balance to this thread...
I am a low hour pilot and i did the 737 type rating with CAE in Dubai. I passed the written exam first time (95%), and passed the skills test first time with no repeats. I had an interview with Flydubai, and was offered a position as an SO.
Just because its hard, doesn't mean its impossible...
I am a low hour pilot and i did the 737 type rating with CAE in Dubai. I passed the written exam first time (95%), and passed the skills test first time with no repeats. I had an interview with Flydubai, and was offered a position as an SO.
Just because its hard, doesn't mean its impossible...
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@1234567890987654321
Congratulations..How many hours do you have exactly/background?
Which country do you belong to?
When did you do your type rating?
Are you sure you are not someone from CAE Dubai posing as one of us?
What kind of an interview do they have post SIM assessment..Technical or HR type (Could you kindly enlighten us)?
Also what selection rate have you seen? (ALIVE's stats (0/6)) What about yours?
Which country do you belong to?
When did you do your type rating?
Are you sure you are not someone from CAE Dubai posing as one of us?
What kind of an interview do they have post SIM assessment..Technical or HR type (Could you kindly enlighten us)?
Also what selection rate have you seen? (ALIVE's stats (0/6)) What about yours?
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