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Old 20th May 2013, 23:31
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CTC Qatar Wings

Announced on Facebook tonight that CTC have officially launched their Qatar Wings MPL programme and are accepting applications.

Qatar Airways Pilot Training - Cadet Programme | CTC Wings
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Old 20th May 2013, 23:50
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105,000 for an MPL? Sounds like a brilliant deal!

I'll pass.
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Old 21st May 2013, 00:16
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I think it is circa 96,000 all in, (some of which is returned during advanced training,) for an MPL which leads to conditional employment with a strong national carrier on modern jet equipment. This dovetails into an ATPL at 1500 hours (just like any other professional licence.)

There are no guarantees with anything, but given that reality, this programme and similar ones to it, are about as good as it gets for those looking for the fast track airline pilot apprenticeships.
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Old 21st May 2013, 01:38
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Max age of 28!
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Old 21st May 2013, 08:48
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Qatar mpl Programme - CTC

Hello ladies and gentlemen. The qatar mpl has just opened with CTC. I will be applying. Who else is considering it. Will be good to get different perspectives on this specific scheme. Cheers guys.

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Old 21st May 2013, 10:51
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Just to let you know the Easyjet MPL equated to approx 112k sterling approx...

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Old 21st May 2013, 11:25
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Qatar mpl Programme - CTC

Hi, are a levels required to apply for this programme? Thanks.
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Old 21st May 2013, 14:02
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I was really enthousiastic about this programme, but the tagged price is RIDICULOUS!
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Old 21st May 2013, 14:09
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Price is horrendous especially considering Qatr is govt backed airline with tonnes of cash.

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Old 21st May 2013, 14:47
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They offer sponsorships to Qatari nationals. Anybody else will need to self fund, or seek whatever assistance may be available through their own nations government or private programmes.
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Old 21st May 2013, 19:01
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This programme is open to applications all year round and there are opportunities to start training with CTC and "Qatar Wings" throughout the year.
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Training courses for successful "Qatar Wings" applicants will commence every two months throughout the year.
No time pressure it seems.
Can those apply who failed Phase 2 of the easyJet MPL selection ?
I got an email saying that I have to wait 6 months before applying again. Does this apply to the Qatar course?
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Old 21st May 2013, 20:22
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Can those apply who failed Phase 2 of the easyJet MPL selection?
It would be hard to say, not knowing if the required criteria are different for each course. I would recommend you contact CTC and ask.
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Old 21st May 2013, 20:24
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Hi, are a levels required to apply for this programme? Thanks.
From the second page of the original link:

Hold a minimum of 5 GCSEs (or equivalent*) Grade C or above including maths, science and English language.

Be able to demonstrate that you have successfully completed secondary or high school education (or equivalent)
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Old 22nd May 2013, 02:36
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I hope they've actually got some work lined up for them, as I understand it, the wings cadets that did the A320 TR for Qatar over a year ago are not expected to do any actual flying until at least spring 2014 due to a lack of line trainers. The guys that opted for easyjet instead in 2012 will have received in excess of 1500hrs by that point.
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Old 22nd May 2013, 08:52
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Training Costs: 105,000 (including all taxes and accommodation)
Selection fee: 210
From experience we suggest you budget 5,000* per year for each year in training. (*excluding your personal travel costs from your home country to attend selection and to commence training)
You will be pleased to hear that we do not require you to make full payment prior to the course commencing
My bold underline!!!!

You must be insane, sorry but the job isn't worth it. 105,000 to live in a sandpit in Doha, tax free but nowhere near cost free, I've been there, wouldn't want to live there! The company is, like many Middle east airlines, 'interesting' to work for if you are non local and, for all of this, you are shelling out 105,000!

Ludicrous.
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Old 22nd May 2013, 10:15
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Just out of curiosity, does anyone know if there's a previous flying hours limit to be eligible to apply to this programme?
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Old 23rd May 2013, 20:09
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Is there a reason for the lack of interest, thought such an opportunity would have a lot more posts.
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Old 24th May 2013, 01:48
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Is there a guaranteed job after the completion of the course, or is it just a flight school marketing thing?
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Old 24th May 2013, 02:30
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I would be very interested to hear the pay and conditions on offer for graduates of this program, as I have heard a "rumour" from a couple of my old mates in the sandpit that QR was making a special edition new contract for these guys, that is much lower than the regular F/O package

I strongly advise anyone applying for / accepting this program, to try and find out EXACTLY what's on offer at the end of it and get it in writing, before you spend your own money.
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Old 24th May 2013, 13:23
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The main concerns with this scheme appear to be:

1) The exact terms of employment
2) Being dropped by qatar at some point before achieving 1500 hours

Compared with the EasyJet MPL and BA FPP there is very little precise information on exactly what the terms of your employment would be at the end. If this is yet to be clarified then that is acceptable but I agree that it would be very unwise to part with 105,000 without finding out exactly what your salary and terms would be.

Secondly people on here have suggested that Qatar have been very intolerant of any mistakes made by pilots and are quick to sack people for various things (only what I have read, no personal knowledge). This would be quite a concern as a sacking before you have accrued 1500 hours would leave you with nowhere to go, nontransferable licence and a large debt.
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