Cebu Pacific Skype Interview
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Tech interview
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I had tech interview, went very well. I was told by the fleet chief afterwards that he was satisfied with my aviation technical knowledge so that sounds positive but will wait until I have confirmation from HR and a sim invite before getting too excited.
Took about 25 to 30 min with an introduction about myself to him. He was a very nice guy and pleasant to talk to. Then we got into the questions, mainly memory items, V speed definitions, memory items such as TCAS procedure, engine anti ice usage and so forth.
There is stuff in there that can trip you up but if you have done a bit of prep you should be fine. Fingers crossed I get called soon for sim. Apparently it is only for A330 and not A320 also.
Any news on ATR slots, saw advert today for ATR drivers in the Philippines so must be 5J.
I had tech interview, went very well. I was told by the fleet chief afterwards that he was satisfied with my aviation technical knowledge so that sounds positive but will wait until I have confirmation from HR and a sim invite before getting too excited.
Took about 25 to 30 min with an introduction about myself to him. He was a very nice guy and pleasant to talk to. Then we got into the questions, mainly memory items, V speed definitions, memory items such as TCAS procedure, engine anti ice usage and so forth.
There is stuff in there that can trip you up but if you have done a bit of prep you should be fine. Fingers crossed I get called soon for sim. Apparently it is only for A330 and not A320 also.
Any news on ATR slots, saw advert today for ATR drivers in the Philippines so must be 5J.
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Glad to hear it went well. For the A330 is that for the cruise relief position or straight to FO?
As said it has all gone quiet from Cebu. I have now seen two agencies advertising for ATR FOs for what must be Cebu, so it looks as though they are trying to get those with 500 hours on type before considering those with just the rating. That said the ATR entry requirement with no hours on type still had a total time requirement, so those fresh out of training were never in the running.
Glad to hear it went well. For the A330 is that for the cruise relief position or straight to FO?
As said it has all gone quiet from Cebu. I have now seen two agencies advertising for ATR FOs for what must be Cebu, so it looks as though they are trying to get those with 500 hours on type before considering those with just the rating. That said the ATR entry requirement with no hours on type still had a total time requirement, so those fresh out of training were never in the running.
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Gents, i would be careful hiving out too many specific details just in case there is someone from Cebu reading. Not that matters really but it just might.
The 18 hour rule is in full affect, by the way. Had a tech int recently. PM for details.
The 18 hour rule is in full affect, by the way. Had a tech int recently. PM for details.
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some advise to guys STILL considering Cebupac as a place to fly
1. Parc has stopped working with them long time ago and now even Contractair stops.
2. Average payment for 320 CAPTAIN does not exceed USD 7000 / m.
3. Local terms & conditions means U will have to deal with all stupid local procedures, and that takes 2-3 months in general. NO support from Cebupac office chair attendants like JM, unless u kick them real strong.
4. They want tips & BRIBES everywhere INCLUDING FINAL CAAP SIM CHECK.
5. In general, u can can dissatisfied quite quickly, and the money u spent in the process will not be covered by the money u earned
1. Parc has stopped working with them long time ago and now even Contractair stops.
2. Average payment for 320 CAPTAIN does not exceed USD 7000 / m.
3. Local terms & conditions means U will have to deal with all stupid local procedures, and that takes 2-3 months in general. NO support from Cebupac office chair attendants like JM, unless u kick them real strong.
4. They want tips & BRIBES everywhere INCLUDING FINAL CAAP SIM CHECK.
5. In general, u can can dissatisfied quite quickly, and the money u spent in the process will not be covered by the money u earned
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i was asked to post this...
1) The "training bond" they will force you to sign is for 3 years and P1,000,000. They will not present or talk about the training bond until after the ground course. If you quit the job in 2 years and 11 months and 29 days, you owe the FULL AMOUNT!
i assume they are referring to the ATR course , since its rare for someone to get themselves.... also airlines in other countries pay loyalty bonuses i.e. silver airways in usa now paying 12000 for staying two years and cebu pac will punish you 25 grand for leaving before 3 years. usa=carrot philippines=stick
Also, the training bond gives CP the POWER OF ATTORNEY over you should you decide to quit. Just imagine what they can do with that!
2) The training is substandard, and each sim session is a checkride. The Instructors can't teach nor do they know anything about the airplane. Systems knowledge? Ha! Not here!
3) Pre employment. As an expat you will be told by the "People Dept" that they will "help" you get a work permit. The "help" is an address of a run down travel agency that will process the work permit (about 1 to 2 months) and YOU will pay them P80,000. CP pays nothing. You will also pay for all of your "requirements" which will add up to more pesos. You will pay for your "company medical" at a run down clinic.
Expect to spend up to 2 months doing requirements with zero help from CP. And for no pay at this point.
Once all requirements are done the expat will be told to report to "ground school". Don't expect any company material such as manuals to be issued, just hope someone else in class has some they can share. The "ground training" is the biggest waste of time, the instructors are only interested in how fast they can get done and leave. There will be nothing about systems, you will be given a written test and the answers, just fill out and turn in. This is the same with all test, no knowledge required!
Oh by the way, don't expect to be paid just yet. Your payroll paperwork "is out for signature" so your pay will be delayed for another month or two (if you are lucky).
Now you will sit around for weeks awaiting the dumbass that schedules training to get you to the simulator. Be prepared for multiple excuses and delays.
Once at the simulator expect little. Remember every sim session is a checkride.
Once finished at the sim expect a couple to 3 week delay for your "license". After that expect more delays to start IOE and "supervised line flying". This part is interesting. You will get to fly with Instructors that know squat about the airplane, will try to show their "knowledge" by giving you bad information and brag about their PAF experience.
This part of the "training" is 100+ hours, or two months plus. And no "productivity pay". If you were lucky enough to get your base pay at this point at least you will have a "little money" (and I mean little).
Once released for line flying don't expect any productivity pay for another month. All together you have now spent 6 months plus paying for everything on virtually no pay.
Oh, need a uniform? Bring your own! Some expats here have spent 2+ years awaiting uniforms.
1) The "training bond" they will force you to sign is for 3 years and P1,000,000. They will not present or talk about the training bond until after the ground course. If you quit the job in 2 years and 11 months and 29 days, you owe the FULL AMOUNT!
i assume they are referring to the ATR course , since its rare for someone to get themselves.... also airlines in other countries pay loyalty bonuses i.e. silver airways in usa now paying 12000 for staying two years and cebu pac will punish you 25 grand for leaving before 3 years. usa=carrot philippines=stick
Also, the training bond gives CP the POWER OF ATTORNEY over you should you decide to quit. Just imagine what they can do with that!
2) The training is substandard, and each sim session is a checkride. The Instructors can't teach nor do they know anything about the airplane. Systems knowledge? Ha! Not here!
3) Pre employment. As an expat you will be told by the "People Dept" that they will "help" you get a work permit. The "help" is an address of a run down travel agency that will process the work permit (about 1 to 2 months) and YOU will pay them P80,000. CP pays nothing. You will also pay for all of your "requirements" which will add up to more pesos. You will pay for your "company medical" at a run down clinic.
Expect to spend up to 2 months doing requirements with zero help from CP. And for no pay at this point.
Once all requirements are done the expat will be told to report to "ground school". Don't expect any company material such as manuals to be issued, just hope someone else in class has some they can share. The "ground training" is the biggest waste of time, the instructors are only interested in how fast they can get done and leave. There will be nothing about systems, you will be given a written test and the answers, just fill out and turn in. This is the same with all test, no knowledge required!
Oh by the way, don't expect to be paid just yet. Your payroll paperwork "is out for signature" so your pay will be delayed for another month or two (if you are lucky).
Now you will sit around for weeks awaiting the dumbass that schedules training to get you to the simulator. Be prepared for multiple excuses and delays.
Once at the simulator expect little. Remember every sim session is a checkride.
Once finished at the sim expect a couple to 3 week delay for your "license". After that expect more delays to start IOE and "supervised line flying". This part is interesting. You will get to fly with Instructors that know squat about the airplane, will try to show their "knowledge" by giving you bad information and brag about their PAF experience.
This part of the "training" is 100+ hours, or two months plus. And no "productivity pay". If you were lucky enough to get your base pay at this point at least you will have a "little money" (and I mean little).
Once released for line flying don't expect any productivity pay for another month. All together you have now spent 6 months plus paying for everything on virtually no pay.
Oh, need a uniform? Bring your own! Some expats here have spent 2+ years awaiting uniforms.
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i went to caap / cebu pacific november of last year. the inspector at the caap gave me a list of all the papers i needed to get my philippines temp atp etc...
i asked him "sir are you sure they are serious about hiring pilots and do i have a chance "? he looked at all my licenses : FAA ATP multi engine and single engine land and sea, faa flight instructor single, multi and instrument, flight dispatcher, ground instructor advanced and instrument, ive even passed the written flight eng turbojet and flight navigator ! also atp from canada, first class medicals, radio operator licenses etc i hold the permanent resident visa in the philippines, have the nbi, tin, sss , drivers license all that. oh i also have a PIC b737 a320 and SIC CE500
have 2800 total time and 104 hours multi... he said "very good" and i would say 99.9% chance of getting a job in the philippines. i said ok thank you sir because this requires alot of time and money getting all these papers etc.... well i went and did the atp written and a320 ,roc-a etc gave my resume (very nicely done with classy paper and folder etc) two times in person to cebu pacific (in nov 2013)
i also sent in via email 5 or 6 times to the girls you mentioned. no reply. then i saw a job post for the a330 and had a "darlenny" as the contact. so i sent her an email and was immediately offered a job as f/o on the a330. i was in the usa at the time so i returned to the philippines and spoke to her in person. she offered me an interview for the following week and to wait her email for details etc. this was wednesday and on monday i sent her an email as reminder. no reply, 9 days later (wed) i sent another email asking for interview date, no reply !!?? so friday i called her and she said i wasnt qualified for the job !! OMG i gave them my resume' 6 or 7 times and now she tells me that? why didnt she simply answer my emails 2 weeks ago! so lazy. so i complained that this was fraud and they offered me a chance on the atr. so again went thru the headache of a skype interview (two weeks to complete) waiting for them to call me at internet cafe for 2 hours and never contacting me etc. or she would say " i will call you in 15 minutes" and then i would wait two hours and give up... finally got thru and was mostly questions that are easily answered on my resume. also why couldnt they have simply called me on the fone ?! how much does a call cost from manila to my place? 20 pesos for 20 minutes? today i just got an email back that i dont qualify !? WTH ? to qualify for the atr they just want (according to their job posting on web) a commercial /ifr/multi , 500 hours total and 25 multi time ! i dont qualify! ay nako. there is a shortage of pilots in the usa because the living conditions and pay are so poor and i just retired (27 years as seaman) and wanted to work in the philippines , the country of my family and house etc. Now i will have to go back to the usa and be away from my lovely wife for a year at a time and maintain 2 houses etc OMG no, im gonna try viet nam or china first , i just cant afford to live in the usa with the small pay and high cost of living there.
you would think that cebu would want to hire all the pilots they can find for the atr and have them in line to work on their a320 a321 they have on order. also , think about how dumb they are... i sent an email to one of their recruiters anonymously and mentioned that china could not find pilots for the a330 as captain and they pay 20k a month and required 3000 total and only 500 hours in the a330 and cebu wanted for f/o 3000 total and 1000 in the plane and pays 4000 a month, how do they expect to find pilots?! i should have just stayed home and watched telenovelas with my asawa and avoided all this work and money i spent on plane tickets, hotels, tests, time, grief ,waste, all of it
i asked him "sir are you sure they are serious about hiring pilots and do i have a chance "? he looked at all my licenses : FAA ATP multi engine and single engine land and sea, faa flight instructor single, multi and instrument, flight dispatcher, ground instructor advanced and instrument, ive even passed the written flight eng turbojet and flight navigator ! also atp from canada, first class medicals, radio operator licenses etc i hold the permanent resident visa in the philippines, have the nbi, tin, sss , drivers license all that. oh i also have a PIC b737 a320 and SIC CE500
have 2800 total time and 104 hours multi... he said "very good" and i would say 99.9% chance of getting a job in the philippines. i said ok thank you sir because this requires alot of time and money getting all these papers etc.... well i went and did the atp written and a320 ,roc-a etc gave my resume (very nicely done with classy paper and folder etc) two times in person to cebu pacific (in nov 2013)
i also sent in via email 5 or 6 times to the girls you mentioned. no reply. then i saw a job post for the a330 and had a "darlenny" as the contact. so i sent her an email and was immediately offered a job as f/o on the a330. i was in the usa at the time so i returned to the philippines and spoke to her in person. she offered me an interview for the following week and to wait her email for details etc. this was wednesday and on monday i sent her an email as reminder. no reply, 9 days later (wed) i sent another email asking for interview date, no reply !!?? so friday i called her and she said i wasnt qualified for the job !! OMG i gave them my resume' 6 or 7 times and now she tells me that? why didnt she simply answer my emails 2 weeks ago! so lazy. so i complained that this was fraud and they offered me a chance on the atr. so again went thru the headache of a skype interview (two weeks to complete) waiting for them to call me at internet cafe for 2 hours and never contacting me etc. or she would say " i will call you in 15 minutes" and then i would wait two hours and give up... finally got thru and was mostly questions that are easily answered on my resume. also why couldnt they have simply called me on the fone ?! how much does a call cost from manila to my place? 20 pesos for 20 minutes? today i just got an email back that i dont qualify !? WTH ? to qualify for the atr they just want (according to their job posting on web) a commercial /ifr/multi , 500 hours total and 25 multi time ! i dont qualify! ay nako. there is a shortage of pilots in the usa because the living conditions and pay are so poor and i just retired (27 years as seaman) and wanted to work in the philippines , the country of my family and house etc. Now i will have to go back to the usa and be away from my lovely wife for a year at a time and maintain 2 houses etc OMG no, im gonna try viet nam or china first , i just cant afford to live in the usa with the small pay and high cost of living there.
you would think that cebu would want to hire all the pilots they can find for the atr and have them in line to work on their a320 a321 they have on order. also , think about how dumb they are... i sent an email to one of their recruiters anonymously and mentioned that china could not find pilots for the a330 as captain and they pay 20k a month and required 3000 total and only 500 hours in the a330 and cebu wanted for f/o 3000 total and 1000 in the plane and pays 4000 a month, how do they expect to find pilots?! i should have just stayed home and watched telenovelas with my asawa and avoided all this work and money i spent on plane tickets, hotels, tests, time, grief ,waste, all of it
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Pinoy,
Very informative.
However the other requirement for the ATR job was a current ATR type rating, so if you weren't rated then you wouldn't meet the requirements irrespective of your total hours.
Very informative.
However the other requirement for the ATR job was a current ATR type rating, so if you weren't rated then you wouldn't meet the requirements irrespective of your total hours.
Some non rated guys were offered spots on the ATR as FO's. They had over the 1500 hour TT mark and most had some Caravan/King Air/Navajo or similar experience. They were all required to self fund a type rating.
ATR ratings aren't cheap and the low salary on offer left most to have to say "no thanks" to the offer.
ATR ratings aren't cheap and the low salary on offer left most to have to say "no thanks" to the offer.
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... there're guys in A330 fleet, that were, after self-paid A320 rating with ZERO hours, were offered A330 CCQ paid by CBPac, and after that due to stupid slow line entry, flying P2 LF/US with salary around PHP 20.000, where apartment rent takes PHP 17.000 from this.
No doubt, ATR job is even worse
No doubt, ATR job is even worse
