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"As I've become older, I've learned that willingness to seek argument itself demonstrates a lack of maturity, regardless of how correct you might be."
Always learning,
While totally true, considering there was no argument and everyone recognising the fact there was no intention to argue (myself included), that is completely irrelevant and quite random.
Always learning,
While totally true, considering there was no argument and everyone recognising the fact there was no intention to argue (myself included), that is completely irrelevant and quite random.
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Pallan, it's quite possible to have your A level results at the age of 18, depending on which country you sat them. The same is true for Scottish, Irish and various other European students who will have their A level Equivalent qualifications by age 18. In Scotland it's actually possible to have sat the English A levels (rather than advanced higher or CSYS, or whatever they are now) and have your results in hand whilst still only 17. You could also have sufficient Scottish highers by age 16 (I would have, as would half of my school). In that regard, it makes sense to make potential cadets wait until 18 to apply as if they started earlier they could potentially reach 1500 hours commercial flying while still being too young to hold a full ATPL.
Is there any kind of legal requirement to be 18 to start a CPL, or do you just have to be 18 to have one issued? Beats me.
Edit: ok, so I've basically just reiterated much of what G-FORC3 said!
Is there any kind of legal requirement to be 18 to start a CPL, or do you just have to be 18 to have one issued? Beats me.
Edit: ok, so I've basically just reiterated much of what G-FORC3 said!
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Mayday and G-F0RC3 are correct, I sat the Irish LC, got my results in August and can apply for equivalent confirmation. I am 18, but I don't see how you haven't got yours as I know many ppl in university who are 18 and have their results. Has it probably got something to do with your age when starting school ?
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Edit: ok, so I've basically just reiterated much of what G-FORC3 said!
Btw Mayday, are you in sunny Spain yet? Can't be long now if not?
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Momo - it was directed at many such comments on 62 pages I waded through - most of it misleading. Walk away from the computer and relax - you don't need a comeback to every comment!
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Nope, I'm in a field near Stirling annoying a big power company by not letting them put their pylons on a battlefield! (That said, no evidence of a battle is apparent, just lots of 1960s field drainage...hence why I've been on here all day.)
España in 2 weeks.
España in 2 weeks.
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pallan - If I were you I would definitely not risk failing to apply to university on the off chance that you get accepted onto this scheme. Remember, statistically speaking, it's very unlikely that you'd be accepted.
Why not go to university and continue to apply to BA regardless? You can always drop out if accepted onto the FPP (while still enjoying 1st year of university, regarded as the best year of your life by many).
If you study an academically rigorous subject at university, it will make you an immeasurably more attractive candidate to a wide range of well-paid careers.
Why not go to university and continue to apply to BA regardless? You can always drop out if accepted onto the FPP (while still enjoying 1st year of university, regarded as the best year of your life by many).
If you study an academically rigorous subject at university, it will make you an immeasurably more attractive candidate to a wide range of well-paid careers.
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The above is excellent advice imo. Not to mention that the experience of going to uni and studying at that level for a year will be a nice addition to your BA FPP application next year anyway.
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Hi Guys,
I was just wondering if any of you have experience with any PILAPT software ? Whether it helps at all or which one is best? Without wanting to count my chickens before my eggs this stage of the process definitely scares me the most! I know PILAPT is designed to test natural ability but I can't help but feel practice would help at least a little bit. Also, I can't help but feel like choosing an FTO may have at least some significance, surely if CTC had one thousand more applicants than FTE for example you would have more chance of passing the initial application you applied to FTE ?
Best of luck to everyone!
I was just wondering if any of you have experience with any PILAPT software ? Whether it helps at all or which one is best? Without wanting to count my chickens before my eggs this stage of the process definitely scares me the most! I know PILAPT is designed to test natural ability but I can't help but feel practice would help at least a little bit. Also, I can't help but feel like choosing an FTO may have at least some significance, surely if CTC had one thousand more applicants than FTE for example you would have more chance of passing the initial application you applied to FTE ?
Best of luck to everyone!
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Ah, forgot about other countries getting results early! I wish I was Scottish 
I think I probably will end up going to uni and dropping out if I do get a place on the scheme. Like Phlying_Physicist said, statistically it would be difficult to get on but nevertheless, I'll be going for it if it's announced next year and will just drop out.
The reason I don't really want to do both a degree and the FPP scheme is because I don't want the debt. Although BA give £84k of the loan, it doesn't cover the full £100k which I would probably need plus interest and then a £50k student loan on top (I've applied for a 4 yr degree) would be a lot to handle.
It's just a bit annoying I can't apply this year but I'll just have to get over it and hope I can get on the scheme next year!
I think I probably will end up going to uni and dropping out if I do get a place on the scheme. Like Phlying_Physicist said, statistically it would be difficult to get on but nevertheless, I'll be going for it if it's announced next year and will just drop out.
The reason I don't really want to do both a degree and the FPP scheme is because I don't want the debt. Although BA give £84k of the loan, it doesn't cover the full £100k which I would probably need plus interest and then a £50k student loan on top (I've applied for a 4 yr degree) would be a lot to handle.
It's just a bit annoying I can't apply this year but I'll just have to get over it and hope I can get on the scheme next year!
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pallan: While it's correct that the numbers are stacked against you, someone will get the job and there's no reason why that couldn't be you. Certainly applying increases your chances of being selected than not.
Your debt argument seems pretty logical. However, I'm not sure if you would end up in as much debt as you think. Would you really have a £50k student loan to repay even if you only did a year of the degree? I was under the impression the funding was given to the institution in installments, and therefore any such payments would cease if you left the degree and you wouldn't be eligible to repay those. On that basis you'd only be due to pay about a quarter of the loan that you would have been due to pay had you stayed for the whole course.
Anyway, good luck!
Your debt argument seems pretty logical. However, I'm not sure if you would end up in as much debt as you think. Would you really have a £50k student loan to repay even if you only did a year of the degree? I was under the impression the funding was given to the institution in installments, and therefore any such payments would cease if you left the degree and you wouldn't be eligible to repay those. On that basis you'd only be due to pay about a quarter of the loan that you would have been due to pay had you stayed for the whole course.
Anyway, good luck!
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I should of explained... if I were to complete the full degree then go on to train to be a pilot (whether BA or not) then I would end up with £50k student debt. If I were to drop out after one year or less I presume it would be between £12-13K
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You may have missed my point. 10+ year timeframe for jet for me is something I'm prepared for. I'm not suggesting "my route" is a better/quicker way to get to a jet or BA, quite the opposite. Purely that in terms of where I am in my life personally/family wise, I no longer think this fantastic opportunity fits with what I need. I know that a lot of people may find that hard to believe but there it is. If I was 5 years younger or older or single I would certainly be applying again.
You may have missed my point. 10+ year timeframe for jet for me is something I'm prepared for. I'm not suggesting "my route" is a better/quicker way to get to a jet or BA, quite the opposite. Purely that in terms of where I am in my life personally/family wise, I no longer think this fantastic opportunity fits with what I need. I know that a lot of people may find that hard to believe but there it is. If I was 5 years younger or older or single I would certainly be applying again.
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pallan: I understand now. But in that case you'd have a degree and could probably get a better job (earning more money). And since student debt has a very low interest rate and only needs to be repaid with earnings above the repayment threshold, it's definitely a good investment in my opinion. Not least because in the event of not getting onto the BA FPP (which for most of us is the most likely outcome) you'd have something concrete to fall back on.
Furthermore: choosing the correct degree will pay itself off many times over over the period of your life.
But in that case you'd have a degree and could probably get a better job (earning more money). And since student debt has a very low interest rate and only needs to be repaid with earnings above the repayment threshold, it's definitely a good investment in my opinion. Not least because in the event of not getting onto the BA FPP (which for most of us is the most likely outcome) you'd have something concrete to fall back on. Furthermore: choosing the correct degree will pay itself off many times over over the period of your life.
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