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Old 24th Apr 2015, 12:59
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@Baron,

I have to say that I agree with da0092. The DEP scheme is not competitive like the FPP. If your good enough then you'll end up in the hold pool. There are 100 places up for grabs on the FPP. Giving information to another candidate about what to expect at the assessment will disadvantage other candidates. Not only have you basically told every candidate that reads pprune about one of the aptitude tests but you've also suggested a website where you can practice and you've not even attended yet...
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Old 24th Apr 2015, 13:00
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Baron, the lack of answers you've received to your question implies that others agree with my stance that it wouldn't be fair to disclose that kind of information, and presumably everybody on the DEP forum agreed since you've taken the question from there and asked it on here.

So hopefully other users will read these last few posts and have a good idea of what type of questions are and aren't likely to get answered regarding the Waterside assessment.

There are plenty of reasons that somebody COULD decide to answer your question, including sheer naivety, so I would have thought the best way to avoid some people getting an unfair advantage over others would be to not ask the question in the first place. If I'm being accused of moaning for wanting all candidates to have an equal chance of progressing based on the information they have available to them before their assessment, then I'm guilty.

Good luck to all those who have an assessment coming up!
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Old 24th Apr 2015, 13:20
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I have to say that I agree with da0092. The DEP scheme is not competitive like the FPP. If your good enough then you'll end up in the hold pool. There are 100 places up for grabs on the FPP. Giving information to another candidate about what to expect at the assessment will disadvantage other candidates. Not only have you basically told every candidate that reads pprune about one of the aptitude tests but you've also suggested a website where you can practice and you've not even attended yet...
Anyone with working fingers and google can type in "Pilot" and "Aptitude test" and get to that site. I'd be surprised if 99% of the people reading this haven't already done so.

The only information I have at the moment is exactly the same as what everyone else has at this stage and only way I can get any advantage over anyone else is to prepare, prepare and then maybe do some more preparing.

To be honest i'm not actually worried about any of the other candidates at this stage, all I and everyone else can do is go in there and give it my best possible performance and hopefully that will be enough.

Now this isn't going to descend into one of those fruitless squabbles that takes up valuable forum space so I will go back and remove the posts and consider the hatchet buried.
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Old 24th Apr 2015, 13:57
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Guys, I think you all need to calm down a bit. First of all, NOBODY has given anything away that can be seen as an advantage. Nobody has given details of these mystery tests and what is involved with the NR and VR.
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Old 24th Apr 2015, 15:00
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The DEP scheme is not competitive like the FPP. If your good enough then you'll end up in the hold pool. There are 100 places up for grabs on the FPP. Giving information to another candidate about what to expect at the assessment will disadvantage other candidates.
This is debatable in my opinion. Inevitably there are a limited number of places on the DEP as well (BA have recruitment targets they are trying to meet, after all). And in previous FPPs they haven't taken the originally quoted number anyway, which - to me - implies that if you meet the standard in the FPP then you'll make it. In addition, 100 places is more than on previous intakes as well, furthering your chances of success this year. So I think the best approach is to see the other candidates as potential future colleagues, rather than competitors trying to derail your own chances.

Good luck to everyone at Waterside.
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Old 24th Apr 2015, 15:24
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G-FORC3 is correct. I was told by a BA pilot that you are going against the high standards they set at waterside, NOT against each other. There is a reason why they haven't taken on their desired quota in all the FPP intakes so far. The chances are that will happen this year as well.

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Old 24th Apr 2015, 16:13
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Well said guys. I think there's a lot of scaremongering going on. Yes it's hard and yes it's competitive but at the end of the day if we do become colleagues we need to work together and maybe not be so suspicious of each other. If you have the standard then you'll be fine. If not, these tests are designed to determine true aptitude and not 'practiced' aptitude and you won't be successful or you won't complete the course. Let's all just wish our best to our fellow candidates I for one hope we all do amazingly and look forward to seeing you guys around T5 or personally, Gatwick!
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Old 24th Apr 2015, 17:01
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Anyone going on the 29th morning session? Best of luck to those who have been already and the same to those of us yet to go.
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Old 25th Apr 2015, 16:59
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I do agree with what has been said RE giving details away, however...

I was wondering if someone could maybe tell us how many questions are in the verbal/numerical reasoning tests, and how long we are given to solve them.

If people feel that answering this would give an unfair advantage that's ok, although I feel it is a fair question to ask.

Thanks anyway, and good luck all round !
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Old 26th Apr 2015, 17:37
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Anyone at waterside tomorrow morning? Nerves plus being ill is going to make this a very unpleasant experience. Any more lemsip and I may not make it tomorrow.
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Old 26th Apr 2015, 22:27
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Best of luck mate! Hope your illness subsides enough for you to give it your all!
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Old 27th Apr 2015, 21:39
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Interview invitation received this evening, following my assessment on last Thursday (23rd) afternoon; interview swiftly booked in for next Thursday (7th). I suppose I must have done well enough after all then .

I hope that this brings some relief to others who may be worrying over their own performance; I wasn't at all happy with mine but it seems to have been sufficient. Not sure if I am now more or less nervous - crunch time looms!

Good luck to those still being assessed and to those waiting to hear from BA - once again, hoping to see you there (at Waterside or on the flight deck ).

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Old 27th Apr 2015, 22:23
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You know my view already JDA, but massive congratulations! Just need to nail that final interview and the dream will start looking VERY real!

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Old 28th Apr 2015, 14:29
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Great news JDA, congratulations !!

I've just been assessed today and am a bit disappointed with my performance in the numerical reasoning. Fingers crossed though I'll have a shot at an interview !
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Old 28th Apr 2015, 20:19
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Congratulations JDA!
Which assessment day were you?
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Old 29th Apr 2015, 10:56
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Has anyone else received any news good or bad? This waiting game is absolutely killing me.
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Old 29th Apr 2015, 11:42
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Well that's me out for another year! Good luck to everyone still in the game!
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Old 29th Apr 2015, 13:35
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Really surprised and sorry to hear that All at Sea. Keep your chin up!
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Old 29th Apr 2015, 17:26
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FTE feedback

Hi everyone!

First of all, the very best of luck to everyone still in the running!

Just a quick one to those who didn't get through the FTE assessment day (which unfortunately includes me this time!). They've been kind enough to send in quite detailed and personal feedback about the interview, so check your email and hopefully you'll have something either now or within the next few days.

Personally it's been very encouraging news to read - apparently everything was excellent except the group assessment (I must have talked too much, haha!), so definitely happy that I'm barking up the right tree! Hope that others here in the same situation get similarly good feedback despite the disappointment this time around.

All the best, see you in the air!
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Old 29th Apr 2015, 18:16
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I'm through. Interview booked for the 8th. My 3rd attempt. Need to nail it this time!
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