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Old 19th Sep 2012, 20:29
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Jobs to expect from jaa Atpl cpl IR

I'm currently a ground school cadet for a jaa atpl course. At the end of my training I should have a frozen jaa/easa atpl cpl/ir and mcc with 210 tt. What kind of jobs should I expect? Is it worth it to continue paying for the training or should I stop and go to college? I'm 18 y.o and I will finish the training by the time I'll be 20 and I don't have a european passport. Cheers!
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SNZG,

I hope you are joking, just read on this forum the different topics about job opportunities nowadays and I would suggest to spend your money on something else. If you spend this money on prostitutes you will at least get something in return, if you continue flight training you will be the industry prostitute (and you have to pay for it as well!) and get nothing in return, well, maybe just a STD.
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Surely this can't be a serious post?

Why do people still embark on ATPL studies with no idea of how they will fund the rest of the training, or what glimmer of hope of a job there may be at the end of it
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As already suggested by other reply's, unfortunately not too easy to find a job. If you don't have a european passport even harder. There are a few ME companies that take cadets but these have stopped hiring now. Chances are high you'll have to fund TR also ! Spending money to college is for sure a better investment Do some research in the forum you'll find alot of interesting things ! Start college and wait until there's a cadet program in your area (mea?) ?

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Answers to questions:

1. McDonalds whilst waiting for someone to take you on a P2F scheme ( if you don't what that means look on here).

2. Go to college - get an education then get a job/career that allows you to fly in your spare and continue training.

Read all of the other posts about the realities of this industry and don't believe the hype about pilot shortage and training schools shouting 'start your training now ready for the rush!!'

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I found call centre work quite easy to come by once qualified to CPL fATPL level. Even with over 2000 hours as an instructor it still comes in handy when the flying career hits hard times!

Your local airfield may allow you to clean aeroplanes in return for the odd flying hour so that you can keep your flying hours up but apart from that you will need about 3 planets in alignment and a deep wallet to get a flying job.
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Sorry but the negativity is unbearable. I know two people with the same cpl, mcc and frozen atpl. with a job at Ryanair now - full contract - and another will be starting type rating with monarch although both with eu passports. I understand the difficulty in this industry but find some of these comments ott
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I'm really surprised about the behaviour of someone here, and maybe you are even professional pilots..but i don0t think and i hope so, as i can feel so many negativity in your approach versus new people with new hopes..and then is how do you face the life and cope with the daily stress!
I'm really PROUD to have in the world collegues or future collegues like you!

SNZG what I can tell you is take your time since you are so young but in the same time let me ask something..why you didn't join the cadet program of your national flag company? MEA I mean....
Anyway take it easy and I suggest you in the mean time go forward with your studies, it's always better to have some University culture.
Then turning 23 start to do your research and connection.
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Hi.
I'm 33, and 230TT fATPL IRME, and ready to be hired by any airline. Waiting 1 year now, but no luck. If i were you, I would do training, but slowly. No rush. Do your school, if possible university, and in the meantime fly. Don't spend all your savings, just do little steps, with no rush. After PPL, you need a lot of time to do fATPL theory, and that doesn't cost fortune, so do it, and after that you will be ready for practise, and that you can do very quickly if you have money. There will be time, sooner or later, that pilots will be needed. Just you will have to wait for your turn. And of course you need luck as well
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I'm already praud, that I can call myself commercial pilot no matter what happens in the future
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Sorry but the negativity is unbearable... I understand the difficulty in this industry but find some of these comments ott
For me it has less to do with the current state of affairs RE: job prospects, but more to do with the lack of initiative to do any real research from the OP.

There are tons of open threads right now regarding the current job market, there is a search function a new thread like this is pointless. We all know it's a lottery, anyone getting into it without a solid contact or a decent plan is risking an awful lot. The risk pays off for some, but for many it really doesn't.

I had a well structured route, which has paid it's yield and I am now a professional pilot, but I know many many people who have CPL/IR who struggle to afford renewals year on year and will ultimately never be a professional pilot.

So for an OP to show such a lack of research, especially since it was a first post, to me just stinks of a troll.

Why does everyone think Ryanair is a proper plan? what if they turn you down, where's your plan B on your £60k investment? What if you get there and realise they are treating you like crap, but you're far too invested to do anything about it, and you realise it wasn't all it was cracked up to be...

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