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CTC Wings - ''Flybe Wings'' pilot course

Old 15th May 2012, 14:48
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I wouldn't employ anybody who can't stick to basic rules such as speed limits
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Old 15th May 2012, 14:55
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PrestonPilot - Haha, yeah me either

I was younger and stupid and I think it could of cost me I fear

It wasn't a normal 'sp30' either, I had to go to court which was such an ordeal, never been in trouble like that before! I felt like a criminal! Anyway, thanks to my Solicitor and the nice lady Judge, she left me off with 6 points and a fine.

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Old 15th May 2012, 15:19
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Fly-Boi-1992: I havent. I submitted mine on the 1st May. Still Awaiting Selection. Not sure why they are taking so much longer with some applications. I have a driving conviction on my license too (SP30 3 years ago), but have a full PPL and a degree in Aerospace Engineering. Not sure they will like the age though, they seem to be going for very young candidates, I guess so they can mold them the way they want. Either way, would be good to hear from them as I live in the US at the moment so would rather book flights early...
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Old 15th May 2012, 15:21
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As per CTC Wings/Flybe application, I may have an idea as to why it was unsuccessful...I carry 6 points on my driving licence, could that be why?
No. It would have been unsuccesful because it didn't reach the pass standard when considered with the many hundreds of other applications for the limited number of places on this particular scheme.

That is just the way it goes sometimes. Let it go and move on.

There are a lot of applicants with good educational standards that fit a general profile that the recruitment team are looking for. Sometimes the specifics change from one company to another, but the fact that you think you are good enough, isn't in itself likely to be enough to get an application past the first hurdle.

The recuiters are looking for the type of people that they feel are going to be able to succeed simpy from a perusal of the limited information provided at stage 1. The later stages will further refine that process. Obviously a good solid educational background and achievement record, is almost always going to be a primary requirement for success in achieving selection for one of these types of fast track schemes.

My next port of call is the CTC Cadet programme and if that fails, then I will try CTC's iCP modular programme and even if that falls through, I will have to go the modular route with another FTO. PAT springs to mind. I have seen the manager at PAT already. Ever such a nice lady who runs PAT with her husband and have a high success rate amongst students who study there but, it's a harder way to get a flying job hence why I really would prefer the integrated route as you're more likey to get a flying job a bit quicker.
Yes, absolutely do that. Success on one of these programmes coupled with timing isn't going to "get you a flying job a bit quicker", it may well get you an airline first officers position, a lot quicker. people severely underestimate just what a cliff they are climbing in trying to embark on this type of career at such a low level of experience. Airline cadet programmes are almost always tied to these type of specific integrated courses.

Succesful completion of a reputable tied programme will very likely result in a temporary airline placement after completion. Many of these temporary placements then dovetail into permanent placements.

Outside of these fast track cadet schemes, there are very limited opportunities for low houred pilots. Airlines without such schemes have a very broad and a very large pool of experienced candidates from which to choose. They are not tripping over themselves to employ 250 hour pilots whatever you may think or whatever anybody may tell you.

It is a very expensive undertaking, that comes with an enormous risk profile. Anybody embarking on this career path needs to take a very hard and very realistic viewpoint of what it is they want to achieve, and what really are the best ways of succeeding in that pursuit.
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Old 15th May 2012, 16:42
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Fly-Boi-1992 - I haven't received a reply either...sent it two days after the application opened =\
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Old 15th May 2012, 19:34
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Thanks, good luck to you too. I'm thinking they might be waiting to see how many of the first batch make it through the second stage later this week before giving us a reply.
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Old 17th May 2012, 09:09
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How do you find out if you are successful? I submitted my application on sunday and thought I could access that again to check the status however I cant anymore? Should I keep refreshing my email?
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Old 17th May 2012, 11:28
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hi guys, i had applied for this flybe program but haven't received any reply yet.

I have application no with me but how to check if my application is accepted or rejected??
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Old 17th May 2012, 23:40
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Originally Posted by Shane C View Post
[B]...it's just a frustrating situation to be in when you know that you have what it takes but the selection team doesn't.

I'm gutted to be honest as I felt my application was spot on and I had everything they wanted

The rest I think I'll sail through to be honest.

Wow really?! Now that's what I mean, how can a highly skilled FTO that put considerable risk in to their students and vice versa, take someone who doesn't seem to fit the bill. Fair play to that chap, I hope he got through but surely, like we all would agree, if I was an assessor I would take someone like us and not someone with no idea or experience.
Now I don't know you from Adam, obviously. But your quotes above have an air of egotism and superiority about them, or arrogance as one may describe it.

Maybe, just maybe, that particular trait has revealed itself in your application.

take someone who doesn't seem to fit the bill.
Maybe, again, in this case that is exactly what they didn't do!

if I was an assessor I would take someone like us and not someone with no idea or experience.
Just because you may have an idea and or (limited) experience wont necessarily mean that:

A) The other guy with no idea can not be trained!
B) You can be trained any better than that guy,
C) We would want to sit next to you for an entire day!

There was a trend in Flybe, before I left, of young, arrogant, whizz(!) kids appearing on the line. They were the bee's knees, couldn't put a foot wrong, were always right, etc, etc, blah, or so they though.

Maybe Flybe realised this and have attempted to right a wrong. Either way, unlucky, you have my condolences because this is one of the best jobs going.
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Old 18th May 2012, 04:30
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flyboi-1992 thanks
I logged in but it showed

Phase 1 status Awaiting selection
Phase 2 status Awaiting selection
Phase 3 status Awaiting selection
Phase 4 status Awaiting selection

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Old 20th May 2012, 14:31
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Lord Spandex Masher - Apologies if I came across as arrogant or egotistical, it was not my intention. I am not that kind of person at all. If my answers in these posts came across that way then, sorry.

I was just venting my frustration at not getting through. I honestly thought I had what it took to make it through to at least phase 2/3.

I have re-read my application many times and I now know where I went wrong.

Thanks for your condolences though, it was a shame not getting through but I will keep trying.
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Old 20th May 2012, 14:34
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Beazlebub - Thanks for your post
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Old 20th May 2012, 14:35
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To those who went to the assessment day, any updates?? How did it go and how did you guys do??
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Old 20th May 2012, 21:30
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still awaiting application reply

Hey everyone, I sent my application to flybe on Monday deadline day. I'm still waiting for a reply, is there anyone else who is still waiting. I'm a bit worried tbh!
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Old 20th May 2012, 23:26
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FlyingMackem - Yeah, I was sure it would be tough!

Did you make it through to the next stage?
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Old 21st May 2012, 17:44
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Fly-Boi-1992: Thats good to know. Thanks for the update will let you know what happens to my application. 700 applicants why am i not surprised!
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Old 21st May 2012, 18:08
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Thank you Fly Boi. Appreciate the update.
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Old 24th May 2012, 21:54
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If you want a tip to help you pass through the AM session then buy a program called Pilapt and if your weak with the maths section buy numerapt both programs WILL help you on the AM tests, They are expensive but they got me in and out the other side and they have now paid for themselves. You will need some time to master them but they are similar to the tests (NOT EXACT).
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Old 25th May 2012, 07:52
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would you care to share a link of where you purchased?... as there are numerous on offer

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Old 25th May 2012, 23:23
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Cockpitweb: pilot aptitude test,Pilot computer test software,numerapt,numerical reasoning, psychometric test, mathematics,job application,pilot recruitment,IFR Training Software, ATPL Pilot Training, Pilot Training flight simulator, aviation training Here is a link.. not sure if PPRuNe will allow this but i'll try posting it... I bought the Pilot aptitude test and numerapt, as I say it wasn't cheap but well worth it.. You download it and pay by paypal i'd advise you to save the program to disc and keep the emails they send you as if you lose the program they will allow you to download it again... (happened to me when my computer crashed) The tests are similar but not exactly the same but with enough practice you will get through the test. From then it's down to personality and interview techniques.
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