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CTC Wings - ''Flybe Wings'' pilot course

Old 13th May 2012, 21:18
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I have two questions:

1. Are you allowed to bring guests (i.e. the person who will help me fund it) to the selection day?

2. If you make it through to the interview in the afternoon, is technical knowledge required?


And thank you very much Keeley, you too!
You cannot bring guests to the selection day, you may - however - bring a maximum of two to the open days.

Throughout the group exercise and interview the interviewers and moderators (who are one in the same) will expect you to display a relatively deep understanding of the airline industry (it's past, present and future.)

I would also guess that the interviewer will expect you to have a knowledge of flybe (fleet, the q400, general destinations, company policy and goals/aims, rudimentary history etc.)
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Old 13th May 2012, 22:26
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Thank you very much for your answers.

I do have one more question - I now have to answer 4 questions and return them to CTC no later than 1 week before my selection day. I assume I should print it off, answer the questions, scan it in end email it back to them?

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Old 13th May 2012, 23:48
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Well good luck for phase 2 flybSOU

I am just waiting on the results of my application passing as it is being screened at the moment. They seem to be very efficient at replying so I should know by tomorrow!

You say they now ask you 4 questions? What have CTC asked?
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Old 14th May 2012, 11:41
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Thank you very much for your answers.

I do have one more question - I nw have to answer 4 questions and return them to CTC no later than 1 week before my selection day. I assume I should print it off, answer the questions, scan it in end email it back to them?
Open the document in Word and complete fill it out electronically.

Below are questions I received from CTC a few months ago. I'm not sure if they are all the same but they will be similar.

1. Why do you wish to take up a career as an airline pilot? Please tell us what you have done to pursue your interest in this career.

2. What do you see as the attributes of an airline pilot of the future and how do you match these criteria?

3. Please give us an example of a situation where you performed effectively as a member of a team

4. Give us some examples from your past experience to show us that you are the sort of person who overcomes obstacles and setbacks to achieve your goals and ambitions

If you are successful and get through to the interview stage they may refer to your answers but you will be required to give other examples, bear this in mind !
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Old 14th May 2012, 13:03
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Since opening this thread, there have been some great answers by everyone so thank you!

I recieved an email back by CTC today and unfortunately, I did not make it through paper sift. I'm gutted to be honest as I felt my application was spot on and I had everything they wanted. Obviously not

Best of luck to the guys on here who have applied and got through to phase 2!
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Old 14th May 2012, 13:40
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Stonebaked - My computer decided that it did not want to let me write in the boxes the other day. I have just tried again and now it is fine. Thanks very much!

Shane C - Sorry that you didn't make it through. Thanks for the kind words.
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Old 14th May 2012, 14:49
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It has been over a week since I have sent my application off...still haven't heard back from them
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Old 14th May 2012, 17:48
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Danny212: same here, I submitted mine exactly 2 weeks ago. Received a reply the next morning asking me to send some University certificates, but then never heard back.
I hope it didnt get filled in the Junk mail and then disappeared...
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Old 14th May 2012, 18:02
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Did you receive a confirmation email saying they have received it and it is being screened?
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Old 14th May 2012, 20:33
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flybSOU - Thanks pal I'm rather upset that my application didn't go any further if I'm honest. I thought that my application was a good one and had good, strong answers to the questions. I have an engineering background, flying experience as I am doing my PPL and alot of customer service experience and believe I have what it takes.

It's great to hear that some of you guys got through to phase 2/3! But begs the question, what sort of candidates are they looking for??

The CTC selection team sent me an email saying that after 'carefully screening' my application, they regret that it won't be going any further or words to that effect anyway.

How can they possibly 'carefully screen' an application and get a reply in less than 16 hours?!

FlyingMackem - I imagine that there will be quite a fair few attending the assessment day and CTC/Flybe will weed out the candidates they don't want leaving the final class or classes.

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Old 14th May 2012, 21:20
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ShaneC,

I'm in the same boat as you mate. Rejected at round 1. I have a 1st class MEng in Electronics Engineering and have a lot of commercial and industrial experience. I am also about to ( skills test next week ) obtain a PPL(A) in the minimum 45 hours.

But... I am also 30, I think that might be it.

Best of luck to the rest of you chaps.
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Old 14th May 2012, 21:48
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Fostex - Sorry you didn't get either

Well CTC can take their pick of the bunch, there must be a very high number of people who have applied and obviously they want the very best for Flybe and CTC. To be honest mate, your age should have nothing to do with it. In an airline job, 30 years old is nothing. From what I can gather, airlines want experience.

You're more qualified than me so what CTC want is beyond me.

I think my lack of concentration at school and my GCSE grades affected my application I think.

It would be handy if CTC gave us a why not though...
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Old 14th May 2012, 22:42
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Shane sorry to hear that you were unlucky but don't think into it too much. I suspect you do have the required attributes, qualifications and life experience that is required to be successful but initially they are going to have cut numbers down big time one way or another. I know people that applied for the BA FPP that I thought were ideal for the course and they got no where. It's all about perseverance! If you want it that bad keep applying for schemes and do your research on the FTO's and what they offer.
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Old 14th May 2012, 22:51
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From my, albeit limited, experience with things like this I can say that unfortunately a lot of bewildering decisions do get made. Whilst there will be those with seemingly excellent credentials not making it through the sift there will be some who have absolutely no business being there whatsoever.

I had the displeasure of meeting someone at a recent airline scheme assessment day who hadn't the slightest idea about flying, aviation or how it all worked. He asked if a class one medical was included in the assessment fee price and also asked how long the course was. Meanwhile I know people with experience around the flying community, excellent academics and relevant work experience who didn't get invited.

I am not sure how it works at CTC, but at some places when schemes like this run it is often people who aren't genuine aviation people doing the initial sift. They may work at a flight school in an administrative role, but that does not make them people who know what is good and what isn't in the flying world.

It's all a bit cynical I know, but thought I'd offer some consolation.
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Old 14th May 2012, 23:41
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BerksFlyer I completely agree with you. I think the intial screening is never as 'careful' as they make it seem...but at the end of the day there are thousands of applicants and well theyre bound to make mistakes during screening. But as someone mentioned earlier, keep trying...and well...you have to get somewhere....that's what I'm keeping in mind anyway. I'm currently only 18, so compared to what many on this thread have (i.e PPL's and degree's etc) I don't really reach those standards...but I'm still trying
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Old 14th May 2012, 23:50
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Stonebaked - Thanks for your kind words. Yes I will not give up, I'll keep at it but it's just a frustrating situation to be in when you know that you have what it takes but the selection team doesn't. I just do not agree with not having feedback but that's the way it is

My next port of call is the CTC Cadet programme and if that fails, then I will try CTC's iCP modular programme and even if that falls through, I will have to go the modular route with another FTO. PAT springs to mind. I have seen the manager at PAT already. Ever such a nice lady who runs PAT with her husband and have a high success rate amongst students who study there but, it's a harder way to get a flying job hence why I really would prefer the integrated route as you're more likey to get a flying job a bit quicker.

It just doesn't make sense to me that if a particular candidate has the right qualities, credentials and the right sort of qualifications...get's rejected to someone who doesn't seem right?!

BerksFlyer - Thanks for your kind words too.

Wow really?! Now that's what I mean, how can a highly skilled FTO that put considerable risk in to their students and vice versa, take someone who doesn't seem to fit the bill. Fair play to that chap, I hope he got through but surely, like we all would agree, if I was an assessor I would take someone like us and not someone with no idea or experience. Just doesn't make any sense to me!!

I have no idea but if that really is the case that these FTO's who use assessor's and are not genuine people in the avation world and they use people like you've said, then that's silly in my view because they have relatively no idea and we get penalised for it.

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Old 15th May 2012, 08:26
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Somewhat off the CTC/ Flybe topic but if you have been ‘custard pied’ by CTC then Atlantic have opened up their cadet scheme, if you look at Page 3 of the Late 2012/2013 Pilot Sponsorship Scheme thread you will find I have posted a link to the info which might be of interest. Even if you’re still in the running for CTC/ Flybe there would be no harm in applying to Atlantic as you may not make it all the way with CTC/ Flybe.
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Old 15th May 2012, 13:47
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Anyone else having issues logging in to book assessment date?
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Old 15th May 2012, 14:11
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magicmick - I will have a read of that thread, thanks
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Old 15th May 2012, 14:25
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I just read the thread on the West Atlantic cadet scheme. To be honest, I've never heard of them but it is good that they fund the rest of your flght training provided you have a PPL, night rating, 150 hours PIC/P1 and a class 1 medical. Unfortuantely, I do not have any of these as yet, just 7.7 hours PU/T for my PPL.

As per CTC Wings/Flybe application, I may have an idea as to why it was unsuccessful...I carry 6 points on my driving licence, could that be why?

It's due to be null and void by August this year but nonetheless, it's still on my licence

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