CTC Wings - ''Flybe Wings'' pilot course
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are you "bonded" to Flybe for 5 years and on a reduced salary? I thought I read this somewhere.
It could still be right for some, but 5 years is quite a long time, especially if other doors are beginning to open 2 years into your bond.
It could still be right for some, but 5 years is quite a long time, especially if other doors are beginning to open 2 years into your bond.
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I was reading about previous Flybe programmes and they all said 90% (although they weren't clear if it was per exam or an average) and I assumed it would be the same for this.
The daily mail (I know it's probably not reliable) but they said it is 90% per exam.
The daily mail (I know it's probably not reliable) but they said it is 90% per exam.
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Exam Passes:
The requirement is a 90% average across all exams, not 90% in each. However, given the current standards achieved by non-sponsored ATPL students elsewhere, it would be expected that candidates will exceed this pass mark by some margin.
Bonding:
The standard bonding arrangements for Flybe are for a 3 year, reducing bond to cover the type rating - something in the order of £14,000.
The 5 year requirement is the repayment of the Flybe 'sponsorship' of £19,800. This is repaid, interest-free, from salary after tax over the first 5 years of employment, following completion of Final Line Check. There is also currently an option to take up to an additional 2 years as repayment 'holidays'.
Course Costs:
The Flybe contribution is paid in advance and counts towards the total cost of the course. So if the course costs £65K, the student contribution is lowered by £19,800.
Employment:
The final stage of selection is effectively the Flybe job interview. All successful applicants are given a conditional job offer alongside their sponsorship. Successful completion of the course guarantees a place in the Flybe holding pool, and priority over direct entry applicants. It has been only during the very worst period of the industry downturn that sponsored students were not immediately recruited. It is quite normal for students to finish their training one week and commence their company induction the following week.
The requirement is a 90% average across all exams, not 90% in each. However, given the current standards achieved by non-sponsored ATPL students elsewhere, it would be expected that candidates will exceed this pass mark by some margin.
Bonding:
The standard bonding arrangements for Flybe are for a 3 year, reducing bond to cover the type rating - something in the order of £14,000.
The 5 year requirement is the repayment of the Flybe 'sponsorship' of £19,800. This is repaid, interest-free, from salary after tax over the first 5 years of employment, following completion of Final Line Check. There is also currently an option to take up to an additional 2 years as repayment 'holidays'.
Course Costs:
The Flybe contribution is paid in advance and counts towards the total cost of the course. So if the course costs £65K, the student contribution is lowered by £19,800.
Employment:
The final stage of selection is effectively the Flybe job interview. All successful applicants are given a conditional job offer alongside their sponsorship. Successful completion of the course guarantees a place in the Flybe holding pool, and priority over direct entry applicants. It has been only during the very worst period of the industry downturn that sponsored students were not immediately recruited. It is quite normal for students to finish their training one week and commence their company induction the following week.
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Great, thank you very much for that.
One more question, is a driving license needed (or will they favour a candidate with a driving license over one who has not got one?)
Although its not on the entry requirements list, they do ask about it on the application form.
One more question, is a driving license needed (or will they favour a candidate with a driving license over one who has not got one?)
Although its not on the entry requirements list, they do ask about it on the application form.
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Otto Throttle - Thanks for the info, very informative 
cd7007 - What about if you can't swim? There's a question in the application where it asks whether you can swim 50m with out help basically.
I can swim but I'm not the strongest, 50m is pushing it for me lol.
cd7007 - What about if you can't swim? There's a question in the application where it asks whether you can swim 50m with out help basically.
I can swim but I'm not the strongest, 50m is pushing it for me lol.
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Driver's Licence:
Lack of this won't prevent you from applying, but it would be expected that all employees can drive. Positioning by hire car is an occasional requirement, although there is always an option to request a taxi. However, the company preference is that you can drive. I doubt you will find time to learn whilst completing the ATPL, so I recommend you get this done ASAP.
Swimming:
Fortunately, the company have yet to request you swim to a duty, but during your first week of induction you will complete wet drill, which involves faffing about in the swimming pool learning how to use lifejackets. Basic swimming ability is a must, and I seem to recall that you will be expected to complete one length of the pool wearing the jacket. The ability to swim 50m should more than suffice for these purposes.
Lack of this won't prevent you from applying, but it would be expected that all employees can drive. Positioning by hire car is an occasional requirement, although there is always an option to request a taxi. However, the company preference is that you can drive. I doubt you will find time to learn whilst completing the ATPL, so I recommend you get this done ASAP.
Swimming:
Fortunately, the company have yet to request you swim to a duty, but during your first week of induction you will complete wet drill, which involves faffing about in the swimming pool learning how to use lifejackets. Basic swimming ability is a must, and I seem to recall that you will be expected to complete one length of the pool wearing the jacket. The ability to swim 50m should more than suffice for these purposes.
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jhr187 - Yes that's what I did, as I say I can swim but I am not the strongest so if I get through and get offered a place on the course, I'll get some swimming lessons in.
Otto Throttle - Ok thanks again for the info, helps alot
Otto Throttle - Ok thanks again for the info, helps alot
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Hi guys,
I need your help with the following question :
I'm not a native english speaker and I don't understand what kind of answer they are waiting for !?
Are they expecting from us a :
- current situation description of flybe business/commercial plan or
- our personal point of view ?
Many thanks
I need your help with the following question :
Describe the business/commercial opportunities and challenges facing flybe
Are they expecting from us a :
- current situation description of flybe business/commercial plan or
- our personal point of view ?
Many thanks
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Hi guys,
I need your help with the following question :
I'm not a native english speaker and I don't understand what kind of answer they are waiting for !?
Are they expecting from us a :
- current situation description of flybe business/commercial plan or
- our personal point of view ?
Many thanks
I need your help with the following question :
Describe the business/commercial opportunities and challenges facing flybe
Are they expecting from us a :
- current situation description of flybe business/commercial plan or
- our personal point of view ?
Many thanks
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gpar - Yes exactly what David Woodward said. Flybe are after what you think that their business views are, their commercial views are and where they are going as a company, business and airline and whether it ties in to what they agree with what you have said.
The challenges facing Flybe are self explanitory but remember, you have to answer all of these in a maximum of 150 words so choose your words carefully!
flybSOU - Well I have literally gone through my application multiple times to make sure it was spot on! Just sent it off so I am just waiting now, fingers crossed!!
I am also not looking forward to the PILAPT section of the assessment
The challenges facing Flybe are self explanitory but remember, you have to answer all of these in a maximum of 150 words so choose your words carefully!
flybSOU - Well I have literally gone through my application multiple times to make sure it was spot on! Just sent it off so I am just waiting now, fingers crossed!!
I am also not looking forward to the PILAPT section of the assessment
Last edited by Shane C; 13th May 2012 at 16:33.