Flybe/PTC 2012 Part Sponsorship
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Ok, so I clicked "Apply" yestereday and the only information I think I had to give was my name and phone number pretty much, so they know nothing at all about me.
I thought it was just a pre-register your interest thing.
Anyway today, I missed the call but it was from PTC about my application to the scheme and I have recieved 2 emails stating that I can take a pilot assessment day for £220, and the closing date for applications is near the end of feb.
Does anyone else find this strange? That effectively means they will invite anyone at all to do these tests...it lists a whole load of places you can do these tests with heathrow being the earliest, and then dublin, birmingham and edinburgh before the closing date.
You can do it in manchester on the closing date and then belfast, newcastle and stockholm after the closing date. Another indicator they are just inviting people to apply to PTC because if you take these assessment days after the closing date, it's not very useful for you because you've missed the boat?
Has anyone else done this and got a reply?
The next step is for me to phone them and pay £220 on the phone and they haven't seen my CV or anything like that.
edit: oh and 1 more thing, where did the poster above get his information the course costs etc...there is no mention on the website or in the email about how this works.
thanks
I thought it was just a pre-register your interest thing.
Anyway today, I missed the call but it was from PTC about my application to the scheme and I have recieved 2 emails stating that I can take a pilot assessment day for £220, and the closing date for applications is near the end of feb.
Does anyone else find this strange? That effectively means they will invite anyone at all to do these tests...it lists a whole load of places you can do these tests with heathrow being the earliest, and then dublin, birmingham and edinburgh before the closing date.
You can do it in manchester on the closing date and then belfast, newcastle and stockholm after the closing date. Another indicator they are just inviting people to apply to PTC because if you take these assessment days after the closing date, it's not very useful for you because you've missed the boat?
Has anyone else done this and got a reply?
The next step is for me to phone them and pay £220 on the phone and they haven't seen my CV or anything like that.
edit: oh and 1 more thing, where did the poster above get his information the course costs etc...there is no mention on the website or in the email about how this works.
thanks
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I booked my assessment day yesterday. You can ask them over the phone for any finance/ cost related things before you book anything. All I got out of them was that its 81K, FlyBe gives you an interest free loan of 20K, and you need to fork out the rest yourself. However I was told to contact Barcleys as they have a link with PTC and can offer a better tailored loan for pilot training than any other high street bank. Weather or not it works the same way as with BBVA, I have no idea.
And with regards to no CV thing, I guess the idea is that once all places are filled they will close it for further applicants. Could be entirely wrong though.
Anyone know how many will be selected?
And with regards to no CV thing, I guess the idea is that once all places are filled they will close it for further applicants. Could be entirely wrong though.
Anyone know how many will be selected?
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Entry requirements to the sponsored Flybe courses typically have a cut off around the 60 hour mark. All cadets undergo a full CPL or MPL course depending on the partner FTO, so interested applicants are ab initio rather than part-qualified.
There is nothing sinister about PTC offering a 'traditional' CPL/IR against the MPL at FTE. It is simply the case that the different schools have different approvals, and Flybe happily recruit their pilots from both routes. As a company, they currently use 4 different FTOs for their sponsored training - 2 running MPL courses and the ohter 2 CPL/IR courses.
The lack of interest in the PTC course is likely to be down to the fact most people don't know PTC very well as it is a relative newcomer on the FTO scene; there appears to be a small but vocal campaign against the FTO for reasons best known only to the posters themselves (Flybe have no concerns it would appear); and finally, many potential pilots look down their noses at Flybe as an employer because your job will be flying a Dash 8 and not a 737/320 and the salary is only modest.
As for future recruitment from the general Flybe hold pool, it is increasingly likley. The numbers undergoing sponsored training simply don't meet the forecasted requirement going forward. However, numbers will be low, so don't get all excited at the prospect of hundreds of new vacancies opening up.
There is nothing sinister about PTC offering a 'traditional' CPL/IR against the MPL at FTE. It is simply the case that the different schools have different approvals, and Flybe happily recruit their pilots from both routes. As a company, they currently use 4 different FTOs for their sponsored training - 2 running MPL courses and the ohter 2 CPL/IR courses.
The lack of interest in the PTC course is likely to be down to the fact most people don't know PTC very well as it is a relative newcomer on the FTO scene; there appears to be a small but vocal campaign against the FTO for reasons best known only to the posters themselves (Flybe have no concerns it would appear); and finally, many potential pilots look down their noses at Flybe as an employer because your job will be flying a Dash 8 and not a 737/320 and the salary is only modest.
As for future recruitment from the general Flybe hold pool, it is increasingly likley. The numbers undergoing sponsored training simply don't meet the forecasted requirement going forward. However, numbers will be low, so don't get all excited at the prospect of hundreds of new vacancies opening up.
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There doesn't seem to be much info about this on the web (or can I just not find it!)
Anyway, I got a call from PTC today, and they said that they were doing the MPL; I'd be happier if it were the CPL/IR though.
I get the impression they just want hordes of applicants all paying their £220 for a$$e$$ment regardle$$ of their aptitude
I guess we all have bills to pay.
I had a look at the FTE website, there's not much info there, but they say that the part sponsorship comes in the form of a £19800 repayment in the 1st 5 years of employment. Similar to the BA FPP, but not as much refunded.
Anybody heard anything from FTE?
Anyway, I got a call from PTC today, and they said that they were doing the MPL
; I'd be happier if it were the CPL/IR though.I get the impression they just want hordes of applicants all paying their £220 for a$$e$$ment regardle$$ of their aptitude
I guess we all have bills to pay.I had a look at the FTE website, there's not much info there, but they say that the part sponsorship comes in the form of a £19800 repayment in the 1st 5 years of employment. Similar to the BA FPP, but not as much refunded.
Anybody heard anything from FTE?
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The FTE/FlyBe scheme closed on the 16th of December. I think i'm on the first day of assessments - the 10th of this month,
Assessment is free and done at FlyBe's training academy in Exeter. You obviously have to pay for travel too and from the academy.
Phase 3 with FlyBe/FTE is the FTE selection procedure as far as I'm aware (aptitude, verbal reasoning, numeracy, numerical reasoning, numerical and an interview with someone from FTE). Phase 4 is then the FlyBe interview.
Deal is the same as PTC - £19800 contribution from FlyBe to be paid back over a 5 year period. Course cost was £85k if I remember correctly.
Assessment is free and done at FlyBe's training academy in Exeter. You obviously have to pay for travel too and from the academy.
Phase 3 with FlyBe/FTE is the FTE selection procedure as far as I'm aware (aptitude, verbal reasoning, numeracy, numerical reasoning, numerical and an interview with someone from FTE). Phase 4 is then the FlyBe interview.
Deal is the same as PTC - £19800 contribution from FlyBe to be paid back over a 5 year period. Course cost was £85k if I remember correctly.
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I had a look at the FTE website, there's not much info there, but they say that the part sponsorship comes in the form of a £19800 repayment in the 1st 5 years of employment. Similar to the BA FPP, but not as much refunded.
The £20k initially received by the successful candidate from FlyBe is to help finance the initial cost of obtaining the MPL. This sum will be paid back in full, interest free, to FlyBe from the candidates regular salary. Not to mention the repayments on top of that to service the loan taken out for the remaining £65k should it be necessary.
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Hi guys,
Seems to be a lot of questions about this. I sat the assessment last year so may be able to help. PTC invite everybody to phase 1 of the assessment (this is where it differs to other schemes/schools who will often have an application stage to narrow it down initially). From what I can remember this stage involved a group exercise followed by a couple of hours of compass tests, tests in maths, physics and aviation knowledge and an interview. Your scores from this will determine a) whether you are accepted to PTC and b) if you will be put forward to flybe. We were told the outcome of this stage on the day, however it was a long wait between this stage and finding out if we'd been invited to the final stage with flybe at Exeter (even if you are on the first assessment you won't find out if you have reached the final stage with flybe until the closing day when all of the assessments have taken place. Flybe then decide from everybody who is put forward who they want to interview). Hope that clears up some of your concerns re the application process. If you have a way of funding the course then it is an excellent opportunity that I would definitely recommend. (Another note to consider though, while the sponsorship by flybe is fantastic I believe you still have to be able to prove you have the funds available to cover the whole cost of the course without this contribution before you can start training.).
Good luck all who apply
Seems to be a lot of questions about this. I sat the assessment last year so may be able to help. PTC invite everybody to phase 1 of the assessment (this is where it differs to other schemes/schools who will often have an application stage to narrow it down initially). From what I can remember this stage involved a group exercise followed by a couple of hours of compass tests, tests in maths, physics and aviation knowledge and an interview. Your scores from this will determine a) whether you are accepted to PTC and b) if you will be put forward to flybe. We were told the outcome of this stage on the day, however it was a long wait between this stage and finding out if we'd been invited to the final stage with flybe at Exeter (even if you are on the first assessment you won't find out if you have reached the final stage with flybe until the closing day when all of the assessments have taken place. Flybe then decide from everybody who is put forward who they want to interview). Hope that clears up some of your concerns re the application process. If you have a way of funding the course then it is an excellent opportunity that I would definitely recommend. (Another note to consider though, while the sponsorship by flybe is fantastic I believe you still have to be able to prove you have the funds available to cover the whole cost of the course without this contribution before you can start training.).
Good luck all who apply
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seems like I've just missed out on this one 
did the assessment with PTC last month and got accepted, so I must give them a ring to see if its possible that they could put me forward for this aswell. dunno what the chances are of them doing it but theres no harm in trying!
did the assessment with PTC last month and got accepted, so I must give them a ring to see if its possible that they could put me forward for this aswell. dunno what the chances are of them doing it but theres no harm in trying!
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Hi guys,
Seems to be a lot of questions about this. I sat the assessment last year so may be able to help. PTC invite everybody to phase 1 of the assessment (this is where it differs to other schemes/schools who will often have an application stage to narrow it down initially). From what I can remember this stage involved a group exercise followed by a couple of hours of compass tests, tests in maths, physics and aviation knowledge and an interview. Your scores from this will determine a) whether you are accepted to PTC and b) if you will be put forward to flybe. We were told the outcome of this stage on the day, however it was a long wait between this stage and finding out if we'd been invited to the final stage with flybe at Exeter (even if you are on the first assessment you won't find out if you have reached the final stage with flybe until the closing day when all of the assessments have taken place. Flybe then decide from everybody who is put forward who they want to interview). Hope that clears up some of your concerns re the application process. If you have a way of funding the course then it is an excellent opportunity that I would definitely recommend. (Another note to consider though, while the sponsorship by flybe is fantastic I believe you still have to be able to prove you have the funds available to cover the whole cost of the course without this contribution before you can start training.).
Good luck all who apply
Seems to be a lot of questions about this. I sat the assessment last year so may be able to help. PTC invite everybody to phase 1 of the assessment (this is where it differs to other schemes/schools who will often have an application stage to narrow it down initially). From what I can remember this stage involved a group exercise followed by a couple of hours of compass tests, tests in maths, physics and aviation knowledge and an interview. Your scores from this will determine a) whether you are accepted to PTC and b) if you will be put forward to flybe. We were told the outcome of this stage on the day, however it was a long wait between this stage and finding out if we'd been invited to the final stage with flybe at Exeter (even if you are on the first assessment you won't find out if you have reached the final stage with flybe until the closing day when all of the assessments have taken place. Flybe then decide from everybody who is put forward who they want to interview). Hope that clears up some of your concerns re the application process. If you have a way of funding the course then it is an excellent opportunity that I would definitely recommend. (Another note to consider though, while the sponsorship by flybe is fantastic I believe you still have to be able to prove you have the funds available to cover the whole cost of the course without this contribution before you can start training.).
Good luck all who apply
Do we need to have proof of funds by the 1st selection day or at some point after this? I still need to contact some banks to see if I can get a loan.
Thanks
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This is in no way similar to the BA FPP.
Flybe Q400 FOs start on roughly 25K, so subtracting the sponsorship repayment and servicing the loan won't leave you with much.
I've been informed that PTC do CPL/MEIR and NOT the MPL (which has to be a good thing if Flybe DON'T offer you employment at the end of training). They also don't need proof of funding until after selection.
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Bearcat, as far as I know (but I'm not sure so you really are best asking someone at PTC about this, they are always very helpful over the phone) you need to prove you have access to the funds by the day you enroll with the college. From personal experience I would recommend speaking to the banks ASAP to make sure you are eligible for a loan as there may not be a lot of time between finding out you have a place and starting the course (and believe me you don't want to find yourself in the position of having to turn it down after all of your hard work! 
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I've been informed that PTC do CPL/MEIR and NOT the MPL (which has to be a good thing if Flybe DON'T offer you employment at the end of training
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teawhite, thanks for that. I will begin the quest on Monday.
For now though I have a small issue in that they have just sent me a form to fill out and return it to them within 72 hours, where they ask what steps I have taken to arrange finance. We need to answer if we have the funds in place. Obviously given the fact that I have only applied 2 days ago, I will be forced to tick the box with "No". I hope this doesn't mean anything during this initial stage...
For now though I have a small issue in that they have just sent me a form to fill out and return it to them within 72 hours, where they ask what steps I have taken to arrange finance. We need to answer if we have the funds in place. Obviously given the fact that I have only applied 2 days ago, I will be forced to tick the box with "No". I hope this doesn't mean anything during this initial stage...
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I spoke to them on the phone as well, and can echo what has been said as regards to finance already here.
I have 1 question and that is, once you have finished training and you have paid your £61,000 will we then have to pay for a TR? How much extra would this be? Or do they pay for that?
I have 1 question and that is, once you have finished training and you have paid your £61,000 will we then have to pay for a TR? How much extra would this be? Or do they pay for that?
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Hi all,
Just wondering if there will be another course starting later in the year? I only ask because i'm in Australia at the moment and I won't be back in Ireland until July.
Also would a bad leaving cert (A-levels) reflect badly or do they even take that into consideration?
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Just wondering if there will be another course starting later in the year? I only ask because i'm in Australia at the moment and I won't be back in Ireland until July.
Also would a bad leaving cert (A-levels) reflect badly or do they even take that into consideration?
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A little off topic, but since there are guys in the know on this thread already...what are the chances of flybe ever taking on turbo prop experienced F/Os in the future? Or is it always going to be cadets from now on?
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