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Thank you cirrus for your comments, they are much appreciated when others just prefer to whine!
To join Lion Air does one have to go through eagle or the others or can one apply directly if already type rated on B737 with 2000 on type
To join Lion Air does one have to go through eagle or the others or can one apply directly if already type rated on B737 with 2000 on type
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You have to go through EJ,CFA or MSD you cannot apply direct to Lion, if you do they will write back to you thanking you for your intrest and directing you to one of the above companys.
in terms of exams, there are 4 exams to pass for your licence conversion, they are not hard, but you wont pass without the required study.
there is also 3 internal exams to pass on the 737 systems.
the latest news I have heard is that there is a backlog of around 90 pilots waiting for there 500 hours to start, Lion have 2 aircraft being delivered next month and then nothing until next year.
it would take approx 12 months to get on line with Lion when you take in to consideration retirements, new aircraft and people leaving.
in terms of exams, there are 4 exams to pass for your licence conversion, they are not hard, but you wont pass without the required study.
there is also 3 internal exams to pass on the 737 systems.
the latest news I have heard is that there is a backlog of around 90 pilots waiting for there 500 hours to start, Lion have 2 aircraft being delivered next month and then nothing until next year.
it would take approx 12 months to get on line with Lion when you take in to consideration retirements, new aircraft and people leaving.
I have pasted this from another thread
I do not work at Lion Air. I just thought this was good food for thought for anyone considering going down this path.
I really wish i did this kind of research when i was at PPL level, i would stop immediately with only few pounds loan instead of 100K thati have now and i'll never pay back ..... i have now more than 2000 in 737 NG , working in Crapy Sh.Hole in asia for a black listed p2f eaglejet airline ...
No chance to mooving on a better well paid airline so far.... !!! every year paycut, and lots of incoeming new cadets comeing trough EagleJet and California Falcon Aviation so i will loose this job as well sooner or later becouse there is no shortage of FO so far...
But really... i don't care anymore.... i'll come back in my country and sell sofas or cars for real money, it will be the end of this nightmare and back to a normal life...... if i work hard i'll be able to payback and live with my family and my friends...
I really wish i did my home work instead of listening to all those BS about "THE GREAT PILOT SHORTAGE" i found in the flight training and TR or line training providers websites !!! They are the real Scam !! the worst liars in this game.....
Even if they provides you with a FO seat you'll have no future after that.... becouse the real situation it's just that.... if you have to wait 6 months after you apply to EagleJet and then another 6 months to start 500 LT to get a 2 Yaer nightmare pinouts pay Contract with 50000 dollars penalty if you live, and they can fire you whenever they want with no warn or reason..... gives you an idea of waht we are now, unwanted stupid and not smart dreamers... this is what we are.....
I really wish i did this kind of research when i was at PPL level, i would stop immediately with only few pounds loan instead of 100K thati have now and i'll never pay back ..... i have now more than 2000 in 737 NG , working in Crapy Sh.Hole in asia for a black listed p2f eaglejet airline ...
No chance to mooving on a better well paid airline so far.... !!! every year paycut, and lots of incoeming new cadets comeing trough EagleJet and California Falcon Aviation so i will loose this job as well sooner or later becouse there is no shortage of FO so far...
But really... i don't care anymore.... i'll come back in my country and sell sofas or cars for real money, it will be the end of this nightmare and back to a normal life...... if i work hard i'll be able to payback and live with my family and my friends...
I really wish i did my home work instead of listening to all those BS about "THE GREAT PILOT SHORTAGE" i found in the flight training and TR or line training providers websites !!! They are the real Scam !! the worst liars in this game.....
Even if they provides you with a FO seat you'll have no future after that.... becouse the real situation it's just that.... if you have to wait 6 months after you apply to EagleJet and then another 6 months to start 500 LT to get a 2 Yaer nightmare pinouts pay Contract with 50000 dollars penalty if you live, and they can fire you whenever they want with no warn or reason..... gives you an idea of waht we are now, unwanted stupid and not smart dreamers... this is what we are.....
Last edited by pilotchute; 22nd Oct 2012 at 22:02.
Over 1000 views and not one response?
Well I thought that my cut and pasting of the previous post from another thread would have got some debate going seeing as everyone wants to do line training these days.
Really, no one going to defend Lion Air? Some previous posters where going on about how many people got hired after going to Lion and how in this day and age paying for 500 hours is ok to get ahead in life.
Really, no one going to defend Lion Air? Some previous posters where going on about how many people got hired after going to Lion and how in this day and age paying for 500 hours is ok to get ahead in life.
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Maybe because the p2f topic has been done so many times and that the threads are all the same and it gets boring 
Getting the minimum hours to apply for a job is just the beginning, actually getting the interview and passing is a total different ball game all together.
As a previous thread mentions, there are lion pilots at Jet2 fly scoot HKE and Qatar. As I said the interview is the hardest part of the game, trying to convince someone that doesn't know you to hire you.
The guys who haven't got jobs, (I would say 90% of them) don't have a job because they don't have 1500 hours total and an ATPL.
Pilotchute, I can understand your frustration but P2f has been going on for years and its only since the recession it has been brought to light.
In my opinion and others, the industry went down hill since the rise of Loco which undercut everyone. The only way to compete with this is to lower your costs down as well.
A good example of this was a few years ago when BA nearly went under and O'Leary bragging how he could buy BA with his profit he made.
Getting the minimum hours to apply for a job is just the beginning, actually getting the interview and passing is a total different ball game all together.
As a previous thread mentions, there are lion pilots at Jet2 fly scoot HKE and Qatar. As I said the interview is the hardest part of the game, trying to convince someone that doesn't know you to hire you.
The guys who haven't got jobs, (I would say 90% of them) don't have a job because they don't have 1500 hours total and an ATPL.
Pilotchute, I can understand your frustration but P2f has been going on for years and its only since the recession it has been brought to light.
In my opinion and others, the industry went down hill since the rise of Loco which undercut everyone. The only way to compete with this is to lower your costs down as well.
A good example of this was a few years ago when BA nearly went under and O'Leary bragging how he could buy BA with his profit he made.
Look at the Air Baltic thread
900er,
Problem is the wannabe's out there aren't listening. I stopped slagging off pay to fly a while ago but it's still annoying to see that kids think it's the solution to the problem. On the air baltic thread about P2f someone quoted that out of 27 people who paid for the line training only 3 got hired and only on a seasonal contract. I don't remember the exact response by someone but it was something like "so it's possible!" With selective hearing like that I can see how these companies love to take money off them. It like shooting fish in a barrel.
Problem is the wannabe's out there aren't listening. I stopped slagging off pay to fly a while ago but it's still annoying to see that kids think it's the solution to the problem. On the air baltic thread about P2f someone quoted that out of 27 people who paid for the line training only 3 got hired and only on a seasonal contract. I don't remember the exact response by someone but it was something like "so it's possible!" With selective hearing like that I can see how these companies love to take money off them. It like shooting fish in a barrel.
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Im surprised Air Baltic are taking anyone seeing as they have on going money issues. Jet2 in the UK only take seasonal guys on as this lowers costs. There is no point having guys on a full wage when they are sitting on the ground over winter. Its terrible I know but this is a recession and would take a 70% contract than not have a job at all.
As I have said in a previous thread, Aviation is corrupt and always has been now the sugar is falling away the rot starts to show.
As I have said in a previous thread, Aviation is corrupt and always has been now the sugar is falling away the rot starts to show.
