First job questions (Merged 2012)
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From: Switzerland
I'll put my 2 cents here I guess.
Dec 2006 - Decided to be a pilot after finishing uni.
Feb 2007 - Failed CTC application.
Apr 2007 - Went to the US, got PPL at EFT in Fort Pierce.
Sept 2007 - Passed CTC application.
Nov 2007 - May 2009 - CTC Integrated Course.
No job after graduating.
Mar 2010 - Got the call for a SSTR with CTC Flexicrew (£7k A320TR).
Jun 2010 - Started flying with easyJet
Winter 2010 - Failed Aer Lingus interview.
Apr 2011 - Passed easyJet permanent contract interview.
Jun 2011 - First Real Job (IE no hourly pay) in MAD with EZY.
Dec 2006 - Decided to be a pilot after finishing uni.
Feb 2007 - Failed CTC application.
Apr 2007 - Went to the US, got PPL at EFT in Fort Pierce.
Sept 2007 - Passed CTC application.
Nov 2007 - May 2009 - CTC Integrated Course.
No job after graduating.
Mar 2010 - Got the call for a SSTR with CTC Flexicrew (£7k A320TR).
Jun 2010 - Started flying with easyJet
Winter 2010 - Failed Aer Lingus interview.
Apr 2011 - Passed easyJet permanent contract interview.
Jun 2011 - First Real Job (IE no hourly pay) in MAD with EZY.
Joined: Mar 2011
Posts: 30
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From: Spain
How did you get your first aviation job?
Hi all,
I'm a newbie looking for my first job as a pilot, and after spending lots of hours reading threads, I think I had enough of the P2F is bad, don't go to Africa, don't apply to that, this is a nightmare, etc.
I just want the FACT, not the opinion, this is what I would like from this thread, I hope to get enough answers to be able to do some kind of statistic work where the newbies can see the best way to start.
As I presume most of the people in this sub-forum are jobless (I don't know if this fits better somewhere else), it'd be good also if you can tell how your friends, acquaintances, instructors, etc, made it.
(I don't know if this has been asked before, I couldn't find anything with the search function, if it has, I'm sorry)
Thank you all for your help
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I'll begin with my own experience:
- Of course, I don't have a job (Hope to find one soon
)
- I know of 8 FI that found the Job in the same school they studied and where they did the FI course. Out of this 8, one after 4000TT found a job in central america after he applied through the company website (no P2F), and another one after 2500TT was selected in the RYR assessment (P2F job). The rest still work as FI
- I also know a guy with 250TT that was selected the last september by RYR (P2F job)
I'm a newbie looking for my first job as a pilot, and after spending lots of hours reading threads, I think I had enough of the P2F is bad, don't go to Africa, don't apply to that, this is a nightmare, etc.
I just want the FACT, not the opinion, this is what I would like from this thread, I hope to get enough answers to be able to do some kind of statistic work where the newbies can see the best way to start.
As I presume most of the people in this sub-forum are jobless (I don't know if this fits better somewhere else), it'd be good also if you can tell how your friends, acquaintances, instructors, etc, made it.
(I don't know if this has been asked before, I couldn't find anything with the search function, if it has, I'm sorry)
Thank you all for your help
------------
I'll begin with my own experience:
- Of course, I don't have a job (Hope to find one soon
)- I know of 8 FI that found the Job in the same school they studied and where they did the FI course. Out of this 8, one after 4000TT found a job in central america after he applied through the company website (no P2F), and another one after 2500TT was selected in the RYR assessment (P2F job). The rest still work as FI
- I also know a guy with 250TT that was selected the last september by RYR (P2F job)
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From: I wouldn't know.
Had two job offers after around 7 months of jumping through all the hoops of various companies. Took the 737 job which just bonded for 12 months for the type rating (nothing payed by me). All that back in 2000 with the usual 230 hours right out of flightschool (plus a couple hundred more in gliders, but i dont count them).
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From: UK
Muten, do you think Ryanair is P2F!? Or do you mean that you don't want to pay for a TR?
You might find this recent thread of some interest, if you haven't seen it already:
http://www.pprune.org/interviews-job...u-get-job.html
Good luck.
You might find this recent thread of some interest, if you haven't seen it already:
http://www.pprune.org/interviews-job...u-get-job.html
Good luck.
Joined: Dec 2010
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From: 42 Below
First job...
Bit the bullet, sold everything I owned, moved to the other side of the world, showed interest for months on end, got hired.
Too many people complain about not having jobs but won't make sacrifices to get into this industry.
Too many people complain about not having jobs but won't make sacrifices to get into this industry.
Joined: Mar 2011
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From: Spain
Well, I don't consider ryanair P2F (it's just a new way to reduce costs for the company), but the fact is that you have to pay again after finishing with all the "mandatory" stuff, some people consider it the same as a line training. I don't want to start with the debate one more time, so P2F it's, and specifying that is ryanair or a TR would help the people to understand the idea.
Thanks for the link, I saw the thread the last year but I lost track of it.
Thanks for the link, I saw the thread the last year but I lost track of it.
Joined: Jun 2007
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From: UK
I'm not an advocate of Ryanair, but I wouldn't put them in the same bracket as the 'Lion Air' varieties of P2F. But I agree with you that Ryanair charge for plenty of other things besides the TR.
I found this from earlier in the year - there are lots of posts on it, so it's worth a read:
http://www.pprune.org/interviews-job...first-job.html
Cheers.
I found this from earlier in the year - there are lots of posts on it, so it's worth a read:
http://www.pprune.org/interviews-job...first-job.html
Cheers.
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