Well, I don't consider ryanair P2F (it's just a new way to reduce costs for the company), but the fact is that you have to pay again after finishing with all the "mandatory" stuff, some people consider it the same as a line training. I don't want to start with the debate one more time, so P2F it's, and specifying that is ryanair or a TR would help the people to understand the idea.
Thanks for the link, I saw the thread the last year but I lost track of it.