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Old 28th Jan 2011, 09:58
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Sorry I was a bit un-clear, I was referring to the SSP programme BA have run and will mostly likely run again, taking cadets directly from flight school. I agree full sponsorship has gone, probably for good. My point is just that major airlines do recruit straight from flight schools (and often refer to them as 'cadets') and the likes of Qatar recruiting shouldn't be a surprise.
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Old 28th Jan 2011, 11:00
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Jetstar Asia Airways - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

it was founded in 2004, first flight in December

why can't he be employed in 2006?
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Old 28th Jan 2011, 11:26
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Biggles, the cadets that were not given an Indoc date were offered a redundancy payout or long term leave of absence on a % of pay to help with the loans.
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Old 28th Jan 2011, 12:11
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the cadets that were not given an Indoc date were offered a redundancy payout or long term leave of absence on a % of pay to help with the loans.
Crikey...I wonder how many other operators would have been willing to do such a thing. Dumped at the offset springs to mind.
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Old 28th Jan 2011, 13:03
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A few of the NJE cadets who accepted the long term leave option were subsequently placed with other airlines through OAA schemes (usually self-funding a TR through OAA).

I don't know where NJE stand on this although as I believe some pilots who also took long term leave for the company are in alternative positions while on leave I guess it's not much of an issue.

I am surprised that the figures for OAA don't include all the cadets who did not accept the redundancy in addition to all the other recruitment as that would surely bolster the numbers. I would say that it is commendable that they don't list graduates in non-flying positions but as they have previously listed graduates who made it as far as the hold-pool before being left for quite some time and changing to alternate employers, it just strikes me as odd. In addition I doubt (actually I'm almost certain) they deleted the statistics for the original HP grads when they changed to other employers, but won;t have wasted anytime in adding to the numbers.

As for the feelings of non-NJE graduates on the issue of the cadets seeming to be popular with all the other schemes, well, personally I am happy for my friends and colleagues, we all want to get into a flying position and I hope they enjoy it. I feel a little let down by OAA as after hearing about the third instance of this occuring in as many months I suspect some politics may be involved while "the rest of us" are steered towards RYR and EZY, but I am a product of the machine and it's my bed so I'll lie in it.
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Old 28th Jan 2011, 13:13
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Folks who are on job share or long term leave of absence are encouraged to fly. NJE has no issue with crews flying for other operators while participating in those schemes. I know a few cadets are doing just that. It's good for them that's for sure.

If while you are on job share off and find a full time job, I believe the crew member is released from NJE with no penalty.
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Old 28th Jan 2011, 18:59
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Interesting reading.

Crucially it doesn't state if Oxford assisted in placing a graduate (by means of contracts, a word in the right ear, referral, etc) or if the graduate sought employment off of their own bat, somewhat undermining any argument for their careers service.

And unless i'm missing something it is not clear as to if it is the year of graduation or the year they were placed - I suspect the former but purely based on being able to name individual cases where the overall company number is quite small.

I can think of enough friends that found employment themselves having graduated with no further input from Oxford.
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Old 29th Jan 2011, 17:13
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It doesnt matter if oxford help you find a job, or if you find it yourself, you'll be put onto the employment statistics. And your put on there as soon as you have passed your interview, so even if you are in the holdpool, your in there. And if you find another job whilst your in a hold pool and switch airlines, that stat for your previous airline stays on the list. Prime example, one of the aer lingus numbers from 2009 was from a chap who was in their hold pool, he is now actually flying with easyjet because never came out of that holdpool, but the aer lingus stat remains. Second example, the cathay pacific numbers were off the cadets own backs, not oxford. So to sum up, if you train with them on their app course, once you have a job, regardless of how you got it, you'll be on the list!
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Old 30th Jan 2011, 04:27
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you will be on list even if you end up in a fast food.
oxford=lies lies lies.
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The most baffling thing from this topic is the number of people who expect Oxford to find them all a job, and the phone to be ringing to them every minute. If you thought that would be the case then you clearly didn't research enough or listen at an open day because they never ever promised that. If you're going to be a professional pilot you should be able to use initiative and make things happen for yourself. This can't always happen to everyone, so explore both avenues and hope for the best.

And also why should Oxford not use the statistics when you get a job yourself? How does anyone know whether being from Oxford helped you get that job or not? At the end of the day, if you went there and you got a job you got it because you had been trained to sufficient standard, and they provided that, so they should be able to use it as a statistic.
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