All Lufthansa Companies hiring Ready Entries from 2011
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All Lufthansa Companies hiring Ready Entries from 2011
Hi there,
just to inform you:
All Lufthansa Companies are hiring Ready Entries starting from 2011.
Requirements:
Lufthansa: 600h total time. Base: Frankfurt, Munich. You will start on A320 or B737.
Lufthansa Cargo: 1000h on Jet or Turboprop. Base: Frankfurt. You will start on MD11.
Lufthansa CityLine: no hours requirement, just a licence is required. Base: Frankfurt, Munich. You will start on Canadair CRJ.
Germanwings: no hours requirement, just a licence is required. Base: Cologne, Stuttgart, Berlin, Dortmund, Hannover, Hamburg. You will start on A319.
Recruitement process: That bloody DLR-Test...
What you need: A-Levels, EU citizenship or permanent residence in any EU country.
All companies sponsor the type rating; no need to pay anything.
The only turn-down: Some german language competence required.
From my point of view, required german language knowledge is fairly low at Lufthansa CityLine. Many, many colleagues from the Netherlands and other countries are permanently employed there. Some have a very strong accent of which nobody ever cared and they're phantastic guys and gals.
So, if you know a little bit of german and maybe wanting to improve, this might be a chance. As english and german belong to the same family of languages, it's maybe not tooooo hard to pick up some of that language.
For all LH-companies it definitely does not matter, where you come from (they indeed employ people from all over the world, like US, Canada, UK, New Zealand, Asia, all of Europe, etc.), however, the language is the problem...
Good luck to all of you!
just to inform you:
All Lufthansa Companies are hiring Ready Entries starting from 2011.
Requirements:
Lufthansa: 600h total time. Base: Frankfurt, Munich. You will start on A320 or B737.
Lufthansa Cargo: 1000h on Jet or Turboprop. Base: Frankfurt. You will start on MD11.
Lufthansa CityLine: no hours requirement, just a licence is required. Base: Frankfurt, Munich. You will start on Canadair CRJ.
Germanwings: no hours requirement, just a licence is required. Base: Cologne, Stuttgart, Berlin, Dortmund, Hannover, Hamburg. You will start on A319.
Recruitement process: That bloody DLR-Test...
What you need: A-Levels, EU citizenship or permanent residence in any EU country.
All companies sponsor the type rating; no need to pay anything.
The only turn-down: Some german language competence required.
From my point of view, required german language knowledge is fairly low at Lufthansa CityLine. Many, many colleagues from the Netherlands and other countries are permanently employed there. Some have a very strong accent of which nobody ever cared and they're phantastic guys and gals.
So, if you know a little bit of german and maybe wanting to improve, this might be a chance. As english and german belong to the same family of languages, it's maybe not tooooo hard to pick up some of that language.
For all LH-companies it definitely does not matter, where you come from (they indeed employ people from all over the world, like US, Canada, UK, New Zealand, Asia, all of Europe, etc.), however, the language is the problem...
Good luck to all of you!
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Hi Led Ballon,
try to confuse them on the continent, which is easy!
They will never find out, if you express everything in imperial units... - and make it difficult: inch, foot, yard, link, ell, step,...
At least in Munich, all you need to know, is a "Maß" (or "Mass" to omit the german "sharp s") (of beer), which is roughly two pints or a quart - you'll have their sympathy...
try to confuse them on the continent, which is easy!
They will never find out, if you express everything in imperial units... - and make it difficult: inch, foot, yard, link, ell, step,...
At least in Munich, all you need to know, is a "Maß" (or "Mass" to omit the german "sharp s") (of beer), which is roughly two pints or a quart - you'll have their sympathy...
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Hi Woodpecker,
there's no age limit anymore; you're right, before there was some, but not anymore.
Just looked up the details:
For applications to Lufthansa, Lufthansa Cargo and Lufthansa Italia, Germanwings (Details below only, apply at https://www.interpersonal.de/ ):
http://www.lufthansa-pilot.de/
- Body height: 1,65m to 1,98m.
- Ametropia up to +/- 3 dioptre.
- Unrestricted Passport.
- Medical Class 1 (of course...)
- A-Levels
- and some german language knowledge, as already reported (seems like level B1)
- Military or Civil Service (if applicable) served or suspended
Lufthansa CityLine:
https://www.interpersonal.de/
- School exam one level below A-Levels, don't know what this is in the UK e.g.
- no restriction on ametropia
For Lufthansa CityLine and Germanwings:
MCC not required, can be obtained during type rating. MCC and type rating will be sponsored by those companies.
there's no age limit anymore; you're right, before there was some, but not anymore.
Just looked up the details:
For applications to Lufthansa, Lufthansa Cargo and Lufthansa Italia, Germanwings (Details below only, apply at https://www.interpersonal.de/ ):
http://www.lufthansa-pilot.de/
- Body height: 1,65m to 1,98m.
- Ametropia up to +/- 3 dioptre.
- Unrestricted Passport.
- Medical Class 1 (of course...)
- A-Levels
- and some german language knowledge, as already reported (seems like level B1)
- Military or Civil Service (if applicable) served or suspended
Lufthansa CityLine:
https://www.interpersonal.de/
- School exam one level below A-Levels, don't know what this is in the UK e.g.
- no restriction on ametropia
For Lufthansa CityLine and Germanwings:
MCC not required, can be obtained during type rating. MCC and type rating will be sponsored by those companies.
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You're a bit late on that, LH Cityline and Germanwings have been (and still are) recruiting for months!
Still, most certainly a very decent place to get into should you speak German and pass the darn DLR Test! Think where you'd like to end up before sitting it btw, it's one take only, no retakes. If you fail the LH DLR you won't get a shot at Cityline or Germanwings.
Still, most certainly a very decent place to get into should you speak German and pass the darn DLR Test! Think where you'd like to end up before sitting it btw, it's one take only, no retakes. If you fail the LH DLR you won't get a shot at Cityline or Germanwings.
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Actualy INNFlight from what I heard you can only take the DLR once but for each airline. For example you go there for Lufthansa Italy and if you fail you cannot apply for that one again, but if you want to apply to GermanWings, TurkishAirline or some other you still can. Of course you have to go and try to pass the DLR that time. Which is not an easy thing to do.
I'm not absolute certain about this of course, but I think this is it.
I'm not absolute certain about this of course, but I think this is it.
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You cannot retake the DLR-Test for any other Lufthansa Company, however other companies might think different and let you retry it. If you fail it for any lufty company (lh cityline, germanwings, lh italia, lh cargo or lh "classic") you might still get a chance at turkish airlines for example, or condor for that matter.
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Sure? Please double-check:
https://www.interpersonal.de/site/mm...r/clh_careers/
By the way, I have a pretty cool LH-job; I'm just trying to help others. If not welcome, no problem.
Back to facts:
Denti is right. The DLR-Test can be done only once for all LH-corporate group airlines. So, if you apply and fail e.g. at Germanwings, you cannot reapply at LH, LH Cargo, LH CityLine. I'm unsure about the status of LH Italia.
However, of course you can apply again e.g. for Turish Airlines.
https://www.interpersonal.de/site/mm...r/clh_careers/
By the way, I have a pretty cool LH-job; I'm just trying to help others. If not welcome, no problem.
Back to facts:
Denti is right. The DLR-Test can be done only once for all LH-corporate group airlines. So, if you apply and fail e.g. at Germanwings, you cannot reapply at LH, LH Cargo, LH CityLine. I'm unsure about the status of LH Italia.
However, of course you can apply again e.g. for Turish Airlines.
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Originally Posted by Captain McFly
For applications to Lufthansa, Lufthansa Cargo and Lufthansa Italia, Germanwings (Details below only, apply at https://www.interpersonal.de/ ):
http://www.lufthansa-pilot.de/
- Body height: 1,65m to 1,98m.
- Ametropia up to +/- 3 dioptre.
- Unrestricted Passport.
- Medical Class 1 (of course...)
- A-Levels
- and some german language knowledge, as already reported (seems like level B1)
- Military or Civil Service (if applicable) served or suspended
http://www.lufthansa-pilot.de/
- Body height: 1,65m to 1,98m.
- Ametropia up to +/- 3 dioptre.
- Unrestricted Passport.
- Medical Class 1 (of course...)
- A-Levels
- and some german language knowledge, as already reported (seems like level B1)
- Military or Civil Service (if applicable) served or suspended
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Ametropia up to +/- 3 dioptre
Like Mohit, i'm also curious how strict they are on this. I'm stting at -3.25, which is pretty much unchanged for the last 5 years so unlikely to get worse. Would this disqualify me from LH?
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I'm gonna have to say yes... otherwise they'd limit it to +/- 3.5, wouldn't they?
Capt McFly, don't take it the wrong way, I am sure everyone appreciates the help. My application with LH City and Condor are in already, just waiting to hear back - fingers crossed.
Capt McFly, don't take it the wrong way, I am sure everyone appreciates the help. My application with LH City and Condor are in already, just waiting to hear back - fingers crossed.
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Hi there,
well, the Ametropia-Limit is rather fixed.
All successful applicants have to obtain a Medical Certificate from the Lufthansa Aeromedical Center in Frankfurt. It's an initial medical exam, including drug and alcohol screening. The whole procedure takes approximately the whole day from 8am until about 2 to 4pm.
However, Lufthansa CityLine DOES NOT have an ametropia limit.
Additionally, Lufthansa CityLine is the only company which clearly states a language knowledge requirement. CityLine requires Level B1.
Let's take a look on the Wikipedia:
Common European Framework of Reference for Languages - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Level B1 is defined as:
"Can understand the main points of clear standard input on familiar matters regularly encountered in work, school, leisure, etc. Can deal with most situations likely to arise whilst travelling in an area where the language is spoken. Can produce simple connected text on topics which are familiar or of personal interest. Can describe experiences and events, dreams, hopes & ambitions and briefly give reasons and explanations for opinions and plans."
To be honest, that does not sound too bad to me; that doesn't sound like a lifetime task to learn.
My honest advice is:
Try passing the DLR-Test with Lufthansa CityLine. I think they are most tolerable. As a passed DLR-Test with Lufthansa CityLine is valid in all other Lufthansa companies, once you have passed, you can still simply ask any other Lufthansa company about their conditions and if they are willing to offer you a contract.
If they are willing to offer you a contract, which is depending on the damand only once you are "DLR postive", not one single further interview or anything else will be required - however, you will need to fulfill the slightly higher formal (educational and medical) requirements.
As to the german language requirements:
As I truly know, how damn difficult it is to get into that industry, I believe learning some german up to level B1 and maybe beyond is a good idea for every (desperately) job-hunting pilot with a EU citizenship.
Look: In contrast to English, French and Spanish, which is spoken widely around the world, German is being spoken only in a small area. However, in regard of the three german speaking countries Austria, Germany and Switzerland, the language defines Europe's largest markt with roundabout 99 Million inhabitants and dozens of airlines. As it seems like any airline is requiring you to speak some of the local language, why not aiming on the largest market in Europe if you should come in the end to the conclusion, that you're going to learn another language at all?
well, the Ametropia-Limit is rather fixed.
All successful applicants have to obtain a Medical Certificate from the Lufthansa Aeromedical Center in Frankfurt. It's an initial medical exam, including drug and alcohol screening. The whole procedure takes approximately the whole day from 8am until about 2 to 4pm.
However, Lufthansa CityLine DOES NOT have an ametropia limit.
Additionally, Lufthansa CityLine is the only company which clearly states a language knowledge requirement. CityLine requires Level B1.
Let's take a look on the Wikipedia:
Common European Framework of Reference for Languages - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Level B1 is defined as:
"Can understand the main points of clear standard input on familiar matters regularly encountered in work, school, leisure, etc. Can deal with most situations likely to arise whilst travelling in an area where the language is spoken. Can produce simple connected text on topics which are familiar or of personal interest. Can describe experiences and events, dreams, hopes & ambitions and briefly give reasons and explanations for opinions and plans."
To be honest, that does not sound too bad to me; that doesn't sound like a lifetime task to learn.
My honest advice is:
Try passing the DLR-Test with Lufthansa CityLine. I think they are most tolerable. As a passed DLR-Test with Lufthansa CityLine is valid in all other Lufthansa companies, once you have passed, you can still simply ask any other Lufthansa company about their conditions and if they are willing to offer you a contract.
If they are willing to offer you a contract, which is depending on the damand only once you are "DLR postive", not one single further interview or anything else will be required - however, you will need to fulfill the slightly higher formal (educational and medical) requirements.
As to the german language requirements:
As I truly know, how damn difficult it is to get into that industry, I believe learning some german up to level B1 and maybe beyond is a good idea for every (desperately) job-hunting pilot with a EU citizenship.
Look: In contrast to English, French and Spanish, which is spoken widely around the world, German is being spoken only in a small area. However, in regard of the three german speaking countries Austria, Germany and Switzerland, the language defines Europe's largest markt with roundabout 99 Million inhabitants and dozens of airlines. As it seems like any airline is requiring you to speak some of the local language, why not aiming on the largest market in Europe if you should come in the end to the conclusion, that you're going to learn another language at all?
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Some part i agree with the last poster, if you can speak german, a lot more doors will ge open BUT the time to learn that language is quite long. You don't learn german in 2 months. Its is a damn difficult language. I can speak dutch but even for me german is very difficult.
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Call this a wild and crazy theory, but perhaps they are possibly looking for German people?!?! This reminds me of the thread a few years ago about Lufthansa Italia and their Italian language requirement. Well we all know how that went down.
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Call this a wild and crazy theory, but perhaps they are possibly looking for German people?!?!
If you don't already have a competent grasp of speaking German, the LH group are irrelevant.
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Hello Uncle Wiggily,
no, that's not the point. Once I descended with the whole crew on a famous Burger restaurant in Birmingham. After a lot of great food and other stuff, we suddenly realized and were amuzed about the fact that none of us was really "German". You would have been very surprised to see our LH-IDs, as the only person in our crew holding a german passport even wasn't born in Germany, holding a very strange name while the others had Italian passports (among them the Captain with an "ultra-italian" name) and one crewmember even a Japanese one... You really underestimate, how international the company is. Of course, it employs a lot of "Hans Müllers", but by far not only.
However, all spoke acceptable or good German, while most of us had more than one native language.
My last advice:
As those people interested in a LH-job might have already heard, the application process will take you through three steps:
- Pilot Qualification Assessment
- Simulator Screening
- Psychological Evaluation
I have heard several times, that steps 1 and 2 can be done completely in English. German language competence will be required during the third step.
As a native speaker, I was never too much interested in those special procedures; so I never checked if these rumors were true.
If somebody out here is interested if this rumor is true, he/she could call the company and ask for details (and maybe post the company's answer here).
That might be a reasonable way:
Do steps 1 and 2 in English and if successful, take your time, learn german to level B1 and finally try the last step.
If you've already been successful on steps 1 and 2, your chances of getting through are significant and maybe worth the effort to learn a bit of that damn language.
Call this a wild and crazy theory, but perhaps they are possibly looking for German people?!?!
However, all spoke acceptable or good German, while most of us had more than one native language.
My last advice:
As those people interested in a LH-job might have already heard, the application process will take you through three steps:
- Pilot Qualification Assessment
- Simulator Screening
- Psychological Evaluation
I have heard several times, that steps 1 and 2 can be done completely in English. German language competence will be required during the third step.
As a native speaker, I was never too much interested in those special procedures; so I never checked if these rumors were true.
If somebody out here is interested if this rumor is true, he/she could call the company and ask for details (and maybe post the company's answer here).
That might be a reasonable way:
Do steps 1 and 2 in English and if successful, take your time, learn german to level B1 and finally try the last step.
If you've already been successful on steps 1 and 2, your chances of getting through are significant and maybe worth the effort to learn a bit of that damn language.
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I believe you can pass the DLR for cityline, but be LH negative which means you can't apply to mainline with their vastly better terms and conditions. In any case, they do list Deutsch und Englisch fließend in Wort und Schrift on the website, so I think you need to be able to speak German fluently. If you apply for mainline, everything at the DLR will be in German. If in doubt, send them an email and get the answer from the horse's mouth.
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Age limit...
Turns out there is actually one.
I filled out the online application just to get a little screen telling me I do not qualify at the very end. I called the number listed and was told that at 34 I am just over the age limit of... 33.
I filled out the online application just to get a little screen telling me I do not qualify at the very end. I called the number listed and was told that at 34 I am just over the age limit of... 33.
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Just to get back to the age limit - if it really is 33, and I assume this is for mainline, could you still theoretically get into Cityline and then later on move over to mainline, even after passing 33..? Any ideas McFly? Or anyone else in the know?
Just trying to figure out if it is worth it to first try out Cityline or just shoot straight for mainline, since that specified age limit is around the corner.
I wouldn't wanna fail the mainline selection and then be left with no option for Cityline either... 
Just trying to figure out if it is worth it to first try out Cityline or just shoot straight for mainline, since that specified age limit is around the corner.
I wouldn't wanna fail the mainline selection and then be left with no option for Cityline either...