Salary
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: England
Age: 39
Posts: 164
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
If you got a Frozen ATPL with 250hrs
all ratings kept current
your likely to get a job that you pay to fly...
c.c PPrune advert with Airbus self fly scheme
you find another £30K-£40K, for the type rating
and they will give you 300-500hrs to fly with them. after this 95% ditch you.
so they don't even give you peanuts
all ratings kept current
your likely to get a job that you pay to fly...
c.c PPrune advert with Airbus self fly scheme
you find another £30K-£40K, for the type rating
and they will give you 300-500hrs to fly with them. after this 95% ditch you.
so they don't even give you peanuts
PPRuNe Handmaiden
I earn €110,000 a year.
(+ LoL, BUPA healthcare, kidnap and ransom insurance, uniforms, free car park, pension, roster 6 on 5 off and 22 days leave)
(+ LoL, BUPA healthcare, kidnap and ransom insurance, uniforms, free car park, pension, roster 6 on 5 off and 22 days leave)
Last edited by redsnail; 13th Feb 2010 at 10:26.
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: Around the world.
Age: 42
Posts: 606
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
I get paid as a first officer A320 (year 2 in this airline): Around £52,000 + private healthcare + loss of licence insurance + company matches and doubles what I contribute to my pension.
Previous airline FO A320 paid around 30,000 Euros
As a flying instructor I was paid around £11,000 per year working 6 days per week.
Previous airline FO A320 paid around 30,000 Euros
As a flying instructor I was paid around £11,000 per year working 6 days per week.
PPRuNe Handmaiden
Absolutely, it's in our package. 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Europe
Posts: 102
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Redsnail I didn't know that!?
Which I'd known that in the Imperial Palace (Moscow) 
And free car parking in LHR?? - Good one!
And free car parking in LHR?? - Good one!
Last edited by Blackcoffeenosugar; 13th Feb 2010 at 12:35. Reason: Addressing
PPRuNe Handmaiden
Blackcoffeenosugar,
I don't park at LHR
I don't park at LHR
PPRuNe Handmaiden
I am a captain with Netjets Europe. (I started as an FO €56,000 + allowances)
Previously,
FO Streamline/Emerald Airways, Shorts 330/360 £18,000
Night Ops Assistant for Streamline. (6 months pro rata £16,000)
FO Dash 8 Qantaslink $A56,000 (plus night stop etc allowances)
FO Bandit/Twotter $A33,000 (plus not much)
Single pilot ops
BN2B "captain" Surveillance Australia $A34,000 (plus not much else)
C206,C207,C210, Partenavia, Alligator Airways $A25,000 (plus nothing)
Part time flight instructor. $A20/hr
Pay them? Why would I do that?
Previously,
FO Streamline/Emerald Airways, Shorts 330/360 £18,000
Night Ops Assistant for Streamline. (6 months pro rata £16,000)
FO Dash 8 Qantaslink $A56,000 (plus night stop etc allowances)
FO Bandit/Twotter $A33,000 (plus not much)
Single pilot ops
BN2B "captain" Surveillance Australia $A34,000 (plus not much else)
C206,C207,C210, Partenavia, Alligator Airways $A25,000 (plus nothing)
Part time flight instructor. $A20/hr
Pay them? Why would I do that?
Join Date: May 2008
Location: USA
Age: 44
Posts: 26
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Crap if you fly for the airlines.
Good if you fly executive for the elite (I do not mean Netjets and any of that crap, I mean, flying for one of the richest people on the planet)
Executive also gives you the chance to interact with people that at times got over 10 000 people working for them. It can also open you many other doors, believe me. You are treated well, on lay overs you are in 5 star hotels and usually for a weekend get about 1000$ to spend (not deducted from salary obviously). Depending where, but you can find places you fly 20-30 hours a month, this gives you actually enough time to pursue a hobby and have a family without stress. You earn double of what airline guys make. I flew for the airlines, then did a break doing scenic flights (had enough with airlines) while parallel working on getting into the executive aviation for a very, very rich person.
In Executive aviation if you land the right job you only fly the newest and the best which makes flying so much more fun. Not to mention you hang out in executive FBOs and do not get yelled at and assaulted during christmas by unruly passengers with the "I am with the airport freak out attitude". People actually call you home when there is a flight cancellation. Reserves does not exist and unlike with companies like NetJets you can actually communicate with your chief pilot and ask if it is ok if you go somewhere for a longer weekend and if someone can vouch for you in case there is a flight.
Things like that. The day I lose my job is the day I quit aviation which will not be anytime soon tho, as I said, you build up a special relationship with your boss, a billionaire. Even if he decides to sell his airplanes, people like that only got other billionaires as friends and basically hand you over to those other guys.
Executive aviation is the way to go, replying to your answer, copilot flying a large jet, falcon2000, gs450 etc makes about in USD maybe 10 000 -15 000$ a month and a captain makes pretty much the double.
Good if you fly executive for the elite (I do not mean Netjets and any of that crap, I mean, flying for one of the richest people on the planet)
Executive also gives you the chance to interact with people that at times got over 10 000 people working for them. It can also open you many other doors, believe me. You are treated well, on lay overs you are in 5 star hotels and usually for a weekend get about 1000$ to spend (not deducted from salary obviously). Depending where, but you can find places you fly 20-30 hours a month, this gives you actually enough time to pursue a hobby and have a family without stress. You earn double of what airline guys make. I flew for the airlines, then did a break doing scenic flights (had enough with airlines) while parallel working on getting into the executive aviation for a very, very rich person.
In Executive aviation if you land the right job you only fly the newest and the best which makes flying so much more fun. Not to mention you hang out in executive FBOs and do not get yelled at and assaulted during christmas by unruly passengers with the "I am with the airport freak out attitude". People actually call you home when there is a flight cancellation. Reserves does not exist and unlike with companies like NetJets you can actually communicate with your chief pilot and ask if it is ok if you go somewhere for a longer weekend and if someone can vouch for you in case there is a flight.
Things like that. The day I lose my job is the day I quit aviation which will not be anytime soon tho, as I said, you build up a special relationship with your boss, a billionaire. Even if he decides to sell his airplanes, people like that only got other billionaires as friends and basically hand you over to those other guys.
Executive aviation is the way to go, replying to your answer, copilot flying a large jet, falcon2000, gs450 etc makes about in USD maybe 10 000 -15 000$ a month and a captain makes pretty much the double.
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: austria
Posts: 75
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
I am not with this so called "I fly the richest and therefore fly as the best pilot within the best environment" philosophy. Couple of my buddies having the same mentality like previous poster left my company, went to a very rich arabic man with a lot of oil and an expected gV job, gues what happened? The order of the so rich man for the GV was canceled, he told the pilots "I am so sorry", they cant go back to the so called "crap" company, believe me, they would be happy. Generally I dont rate other companies with "crap" or something like this, normally this is done by pilots who failed their sreening and are frustrated, but any how, my message: Never sell you sole to a very rich single private operator, from one moment to another you could be bad surprized. To answer the question: netjets captain on jobshare off, earning 60% of redsnail, flying beside as LT/TRE for additional 2000-4000 eur / month, and if I need the written approval from my fleetchief I reach him personal, get it within 24 hrs as an approvement by management, I thinks its not so "crap" 
Join Date: Sep 1999
Location: ME
Posts: 5,502
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
copilot flying a large jet, falcon2000, gs450 etc makes about in USD maybe 10 000 -15 000$ a month and a captain makes pretty much the double.
Mutt
Join Date: May 2008
Location: USA
Age: 44
Posts: 26
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Mutt,
As I said, there is a difference between the NetJets Corporate Aviation (I usually call it so) and the Executive Aviation (where you fly some guy whose corporation has more power than a particular country in the world). The figures I mentioned differ indeed. Simply because depending for whom you fly you get so and so much money.
Again, a billionaire is not going to pay you an average salary, some might, but some are proud of their aircrafts and even more proud of their pilots and those will pay you extremely well.
Also, I forgot to mention. When you need to fly them somewhere during christmas season, most of the times you get to take your girlfriend along in their airplanes too so you can spend christmas together with your girl, which is extremely nice.
At last, I really am not going to argue with anyone about the salary issue because I know well what I get paid, it might differ but flying a gs450 for netjets and a gs450 for Mr.Billionaire is not at all the same thing.
Cheers
As I said, there is a difference between the NetJets Corporate Aviation (I usually call it so) and the Executive Aviation (where you fly some guy whose corporation has more power than a particular country in the world). The figures I mentioned differ indeed. Simply because depending for whom you fly you get so and so much money.
Again, a billionaire is not going to pay you an average salary, some might, but some are proud of their aircrafts and even more proud of their pilots and those will pay you extremely well.
Also, I forgot to mention. When you need to fly them somewhere during christmas season, most of the times you get to take your girlfriend along in their airplanes too so you can spend christmas together with your girl, which is extremely nice.
At last, I really am not going to argue with anyone about the salary issue because I know well what I get paid, it might differ but flying a gs450 for netjets and a gs450 for Mr.Billionaire is not at all the same thing.
Cheers
Last edited by jetjockeyusa; 22nd Feb 2010 at 05:54.