RYR assessment Oct 7th
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I applied about a month ago so i guess my CV just happened to be at the right place at the right time.
i didn't get a phone interview so i am not sure if thats the norm now. it's good that i have about 5 days to prepare and i am just digging out all the old groundschool books.
i didn't get a phone interview so i am not sure if thats the norm now. it's good that i have about 5 days to prepare and i am just digging out all the old groundschool books.
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Guys, while a general knowledge of 'groundschool material' is required, the assessment is won and lost in the sim.
The key is flexibility - as it is in day to day life within FR. Be prepared for anything in any order. Don't go memorising specific profiles from specific plates. They want to see you adapting to a particular scenario - as a crew. CRM is important. Go through everything that you plan to do or are about to do with your sim partner. Keep talking, keep ahead of the plan and be prepared to encounter a change of plan should the case arise. A good level of handling skills and IF ability is a given, however if you have all this and don't work as a crew and adapt to changes, forget it I'm affraid.
Maybe I'll see you on line? Goodluck
The key is flexibility - as it is in day to day life within FR. Be prepared for anything in any order. Don't go memorising specific profiles from specific plates. They want to see you adapting to a particular scenario - as a crew. CRM is important. Go through everything that you plan to do or are about to do with your sim partner. Keep talking, keep ahead of the plan and be prepared to encounter a change of plan should the case arise. A good level of handling skills and IF ability is a given, however if you have all this and don't work as a crew and adapt to changes, forget it I'm affraid.
Maybe I'll see you on line? Goodluck
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Callsign kilo has hit it right on the head, I would listen to his words very carefully if you want a shot with ryanair. Back when I did my assessment with them, my interview was good, my PF sim was awsome, but my PM sim sucked. I was to passive on the day, speak a LOT, work as a team, dont forget to give calls your asked to give in the brief to your fellow sim partner. do these things and you'll be fine. I didnt, and the outcome was negative.
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Hi Pilotho
Like the lads say above the assesment is lost and won in the sim from my experience.
If You fly well, wipe the Pilot monitorings backside
and be yourself you shouldnt have a problem.
They want to see could they stick sitting beside you for 8hrs a day.
I dont know how many questions i got wrong although they were in the minority, i still passed.
Its a great experience anyway.
Good luck
Like the lads say above the assesment is lost and won in the sim from my experience.
If You fly well, wipe the Pilot monitorings backside
and be yourself you shouldnt have a problem.
They want to see could they stick sitting beside you for 8hrs a day.
I dont know how many questions i got wrong although they were in the minority, i still passed.
Its a great experience anyway.
Good luck
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thanks for all the advice and i didn't even have to ask for them! much appreciated.
that does give me more confidence because i am not dreading the sim ride as much since i am quite confident that i work well with other people and my flying skill is up to scratch.
in terms of applying. i applied through sas in the form of email with my cv attached. i got an email a few days later stating that there are no requirements at the moment and if there are, they will contact me. i just left it from there and was really surprised when i got the call.
by the way, for the guys that are on the line. how did you find it after you had finished base training? did you have to wait long before you was taken to line training?
that does give me more confidence because i am not dreading the sim ride as much since i am quite confident that i work well with other people and my flying skill is up to scratch.
in terms of applying. i applied through sas in the form of email with my cv attached. i got an email a few days later stating that there are no requirements at the moment and if there are, they will contact me. i just left it from there and was really surprised when i got the call.
by the way, for the guys that are on the line. how did you find it after you had finished base training? did you have to wait long before you was taken to line training?
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Ryanair type rating course dates
Hello everyone,
Does anyone know if courses are planned to be run regularly again now.
The last time I looked, most comments seemed to indicate it would be Springtime until any courses would start again.
Or, are they only running a few courses from now until then, for cadets who have been waiting a long time, or have previously had there course postponed / cancelled?
Lastly,can anyone confirm if they know of anyone who has been required to undertake a 2nd sim assessment, as it has been over 12
months since they passed the original sim check.
(PM me if you would prefer).
Many thanks,
Jimmyjetplane.
Does anyone know if courses are planned to be run regularly again now.
The last time I looked, most comments seemed to indicate it would be Springtime until any courses would start again.
Or, are they only running a few courses from now until then, for cadets who have been waiting a long time, or have previously had there course postponed / cancelled?
Lastly,can anyone confirm if they know of anyone who has been required to undertake a 2nd sim assessment, as it has been over 12
months since they passed the original sim check. (PM me if you would prefer).
Many thanks,
Jimmyjetplane.
Paying £600 for some time on a 737-800 FFS and impressing in the sim assessment is a no-brainer if you get a job out of it. 
An hour or two in the FFS won't make you a polished performer but it will take away the surprises, calm you down, and allow you to fulfil your potential in the assessment.
An hour or two in the FFS won't make you a polished performer but it will take away the surprises, calm you down, and allow you to fulfil your potential in the assessment.
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An hour or two in the FFS won't make you a polished performer but it will take away the surprises, calm you down, and allow you to fulfil your potential in the assessment.
Don't waste your money: you will be briefed on the sim trip. You will not be expected to fly the sim to LPC standard. We all know that a guy coming from a PA34 will find it tricky.
Turn up, be yourself, fly the sim to the best of your ability.
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I got a few general questions wrong in the technical interview, but the interviewer for me seemed to ask me to clarify my wrong answers, and from that he would ask me "so what what would happen if this happened" or something of the sort to lead me onto getting the right answer. I think he did that basically to see whether I KNEW the answer but was just nervous, or whether i actually had no idea. But I think I won it back with my knowledge of my previous aircraft. He let me spend about 10 minutes going into details about the engine of my aircraft, and lots more stuff.
My sim wasn't very strong in my experience, but I flew it well, my NDB approach was at most 20feet off of the plates but it took me 3 go arounds before I actually pressed the TOGA buttons and made it easier on myself to use the FD bars haha. After the 3rd one when I pressed the TOGA, instructor said "that's what I was waiting for you to do, now lets do another one and land" lol. He was really nice in general. Oh and don't forget to bring a pen!!!
My sim wasn't very strong in my experience, but I flew it well, my NDB approach was at most 20feet off of the plates but it took me 3 go arounds before I actually pressed the TOGA buttons and made it easier on myself to use the FD bars haha. After the 3rd one when I pressed the TOGA, instructor said "that's what I was waiting for you to do, now lets do another one and land" lol. He was really nice in general. Oh and don't forget to bring a pen!!!
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I also did my flying on the Seneca but then did my MCC on the 737-400 sim. I feel that like a lot of things, all you have to do is stay ahead of the game. Surely you felt the same way when you was going from a single to the Seneca.
Like everything, the task seems a lot harder until you have done it. Flying a 737 is just about anticipation, if you know what it's going to do then eventually you will find that it's not that much of a beast.
Like everything, the task seems a lot harder until you have done it. Flying a 737 is just about anticipation, if you know what it's going to do then eventually you will find that it's not that much of a beast.
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Guys,
Chill.
The Ryanair pilots who do the sim assessment are human: they are experienced pilots and you will find yourself doing base training or line training with them.
They are NOT like the "up their own assholes" ThomsonFly assessors so don't worry.
PS FR is the best job in the business so keep applying, and whatever else you do, don't ever mention being in some holding pool.
Chill.
The Ryanair pilots who do the sim assessment are human: they are experienced pilots and you will find yourself doing base training or line training with them.
They are NOT like the "up their own assholes" ThomsonFly assessors so don't worry.
PS FR is the best job in the business so keep applying, and whatever else you do, don't ever mention being in some holding pool.
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They are NOT like the "up their own assholes" ThomsonFly assessors so don't worry.
and whatever else you do, don't ever mention being in some holding pool.
With the greatest of respects the assessment sounds a joke. The interview should be very important.
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Sorry, to clarify, we were not allowed to use FD for the entire test. He just showed us how it worked first of all, then turned it off for the rest of the flight. The only time it came on again was on the G/A when you press the TOGA buttons. Makes the single engine G/A so much more of a doddle than if you dont press them... (which like I said I didnt do twice!) hehehe. Good luck!!!
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"....I was to passive on the day, speak a LOT, work as a team, dont forget to give calls your asked to give in the brief to your fellow sim partner...."
Being passive on the day is something to be avoided especially if you are PM. There is a tendency not to get involved but if there is any doubt speak up - ask etc ! I was flying weith the Chief Pilot, me as PM, he started an approach brief, I said "...that's not what I am seeing...etc", it turned out that I had the wrong approach plate (my mistake) BUT, importantly, it showed that I was awake / alert and fully in the loop and he said so !
Being passive on the day is something to be avoided especially if you are PM. There is a tendency not to get involved but if there is any doubt speak up - ask etc ! I was flying weith the Chief Pilot, me as PM, he started an approach brief, I said "...that's not what I am seeing...etc", it turned out that I had the wrong approach plate (my mistake) BUT, importantly, it showed that I was awake / alert and fully in the loop and he said so !
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TO/GA
What Airsey says is partially correct but can be dangerous - TOGA will give you 'level wings' and a little 'pitch up'. Because of the yaw, folllowing the FD, you can end up in a skidding turn, facing the other other direction from which you approached or even worse ! Make sure you are in heading mode as soon as you have overcome the fright you get when the engine fails - the FD should then take you away from the danger
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Ahh yes Herc, I understand what you're saying. Very good point. Sorry was just trying to clarify that the FD's were not used through out the entire sim ride. Bet yes what you said is correct. I'll tell you what though, it is wierd if you have been flying smaller planes for some time. I had a job on a Twotter not long before I took the interview, and my habits from that were hard to break (especially using the rudder on approach). But the instructor understood that and just guided more than got p****d off about it. Just listen carefully to what he tell you in the sim, follow his instructions and most of all... when he shows you a plate, and asks you to tell him where you are on that plate using your NDB, don't get it wrong! I got it wrong first time, he asked me are you sure, I looked again and then told him the right answer and he was happy... made me feel like a total idiot though since I had dealt with NDB's for the past 18 months. 