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Hello, I am about to go to CTC stage 4, I have a small question ive been wondering about. Does haircut make any difference, I know it sounds a bit silly but I've come from a military background where haircut is very important and there are regulations, is there any similarity in the civilian flying world? , my hair is not long but it is touching the colar and covering my ears and I have a fringe just below eye brow hight.
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Affect your application? Not likely unless it's severe in which case it would have been mentioned to you at Stage 2/3 if they thought it'd affect your chances of recruitment at a later stage.
However, I found that CTC's Training Captains that run the Stage 4 sessions are fairly old school, and some have a military background I believe so for the purpose of first impressions, maybe it's worth keeping it clean and tidy!
However, I found that CTC's Training Captains that run the Stage 4 sessions are fairly old school, and some have a military background I believe so for the purpose of first impressions, maybe it's worth keeping it clean and tidy!
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Hola mattyh
Sorry if you look like the original Beatles or a "skinhead".
It does not really matter to me. You might have outstanding grades.
You might have impressed me in the simulator.
You see, I am an old fart - just retired a few months ago.
And I occasionally gave my blessings for hiring to some.
xxx
For you, I would say "welcome to this airline"... and suggest a haircut.
Not saying you need to look like a Royal Marine Commando.
But like a nice trim gentleman pleasing guys who are worse than I was.
xxx
Good luck -
Happy contrails
It does not really matter to me. You might have outstanding grades.
You might have impressed me in the simulator.
You see, I am an old fart - just retired a few months ago.
And I occasionally gave my blessings for hiring to some.
xxx
For you, I would say "welcome to this airline"... and suggest a haircut.
Not saying you need to look like a Royal Marine Commando.
But like a nice trim gentleman pleasing guys who are worse than I was.
xxx
Good luck -
Happy contrails
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"my hair is not long but it is touching the colar and covering my ears and I have a fringe just below eye brow hight."
Is this a wind up?
Sorry but by any standard, for a bloke, that is long! Below eyebrow? Covering ears? Touching collar? Sounds like my bird.
Its all very well saying grades count etc etc but the point is you need to look neat and tidy. Short back and sides. Dont give the panel any excuse.
Is this a wind up?
Sorry but by any standard, for a bloke, that is long! Below eyebrow? Covering ears? Touching collar? Sounds like my bird.
Its all very well saying grades count etc etc but the point is you need to look neat and tidy. Short back and sides. Dont give the panel any excuse.
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I am 'Old School' I personally think that as long as its conventional within reason you will be fine.
Although I am of the opinion that the 'Shaven Headed' look would go down like a lead balloon with some trainers that I know.
Although I am of the opinion that the 'Shaven Headed' look would go down like a lead balloon with some trainers that I know.
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As BSMuppet says. you do need to look neat and tidy. In reality that means trying not to look like an accessory to the "Rock" industry. Even those individuals who are fortunate enough to run two careers, of which the "Rock" industry is one, still recognise the requirement for a conservative appearance when practicising professional aviation.
It is a conservative industry, and a conservative approach to grooming would be good advice. That aside, when you spend 12 hours with a headset clamped to your cranium, it does terrible things to your expensively coiffured and trained locks. Not a good look really.
In summary, keep the presentation smart tidy and professional, within the customer perception and expectation of the industry norm. Most people have a reasonable idea of what neat and tidy means, and the fact you are asking probably implies you already know a visit to the barber is looming.
It is a conservative industry, and a conservative approach to grooming would be good advice. That aside, when you spend 12 hours with a headset clamped to your cranium, it does terrible things to your expensively coiffured and trained locks. Not a good look really.
In summary, keep the presentation smart tidy and professional, within the customer perception and expectation of the industry norm. Most people have a reasonable idea of what neat and tidy means, and the fact you are asking probably implies you already know a visit to the barber is looming.
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Well, I was in your case, really enjoyed my curly hair but cut it for the phase 4. Don't know if it would have changed anything but it's better not to take the risk.
Then you'll see, once in NZ, that instructors are young and simply do not care about your hair style (within reason).
My hair are now quite long and I haven't had any trouble so far.
Don't take any risk, have a nice hair, it's well worth it.
Good luck for your sim.
Then you'll see, once in NZ, that instructors are young and simply do not care about your hair style (within reason).
My hair are now quite long and I haven't had any trouble so far.
Don't take any risk, have a nice hair, it's well worth it.
Good luck for your sim.
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Dont cut it!
Keeping growing it, get a mullet! Walking in with a suitable swagger will definately show them your a confident (and of course highly stylish) dude! 
But seriously, there are no regulations, but I would suggest, for the cost of a haircut, get it done before you go! Shows you care about your appearance and are serious about impressing them.
You can't be doing that bad though as your through to the final stage! Good luck and I may see you out in NZ soon!
Nev.
But seriously, there are no regulations, but I would suggest, for the cost of a haircut, get it done before you go! Shows you care about your appearance and are serious about impressing them.
You can't be doing that bad though as your through to the final stage! Good luck and I may see you out in NZ soon!
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Hi Matty.
Before my selection I attended the CTC open day, and during one of the 'interview preparation' workshops, questions very similar to yours were posed. People were asking whether it matters if someone has perceivably 'long' hair, is an 'emo' etc. I know the latter is irrelevant, but their response was the same, "'well, what do you think?". They also echoed what others have alluded to regarding how interviewers perceive you, and how cutting your hair and turning up neat and tidy can only benefit you and how you will be perceived. Keep in mind that you'll be up against 11 or more other hopeful cadets, and anything you can do to set yourself apart from them and make a good impression is worth doing. The guys running the workshop were the assessors, and in fact turned out to be the very same people who put me through when it came to my day of assessment. Basically, the main theme of their responses was just "ask yourself". If you're questioning it, then you may have already answered your own question. If in doubt, crop it a bit! My hair was probably your length, and I cut mine before heading off to selection. I didn't go crazy, just tidied it up a bit. Made sense. Hope that helps matey.
Before my selection I attended the CTC open day, and during one of the 'interview preparation' workshops, questions very similar to yours were posed. People were asking whether it matters if someone has perceivably 'long' hair, is an 'emo' etc. I know the latter is irrelevant, but their response was the same, "'well, what do you think?". They also echoed what others have alluded to regarding how interviewers perceive you, and how cutting your hair and turning up neat and tidy can only benefit you and how you will be perceived. Keep in mind that you'll be up against 11 or more other hopeful cadets, and anything you can do to set yourself apart from them and make a good impression is worth doing. The guys running the workshop were the assessors, and in fact turned out to be the very same people who put me through when it came to my day of assessment. Basically, the main theme of their responses was just "ask yourself". If you're questioning it, then you may have already answered your own question. If in doubt, crop it a bit! My hair was probably your length, and I cut mine before heading off to selection. I didn't go crazy, just tidied it up a bit. Made sense. Hope that helps matey.
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Keep in mind that you'll be up against 11 or more other hopeful cadets, and anything you can do to set yourself apart from them and make a good impression is worth doing.
If you think you need a haircut you probably do.
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I would agree with the views that the safest bet is to make sure you look neat and tidy and if that means getting a hair cut then do so!
Don't get fooled into thinking because its fashionable on the streets that it will be acceptable at flight school/airline interviews.
When I was doing my flight school selection one chap on the selection had quite alot of hair, styled quite 'free style' shall we say.
He didn't make the grade, this was partly to do with his scores on the tests but he also told me that the interview panel did mention his hair and told him that it would have been wise to cut it. They obviously did not approve of it and to be honest I would have agreed with them.
At the end of the day you want to give yourself the best possible chance and getting picked up on your hair in a negative sense is a real shame! Its just not worth it... remember they are looking for the 'right kind of people' meeting the grade academically is only one part of it, how you look on the day is absolutely vital. Remember first impressions count alot.
Look the part for the selection days (clothes, shoes, hair.. everything!) then once you pass and are in the flight school or airline then you can have the hair you want (to a certain extent)... after all the initial selection nobody really cares, its more of a cabin crew issue then for the pilots because they deal with the passengers face to face more. Having said that, it does not mean we can all go wild but flight crew get more lee way.
Good Luck!
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Don't get fooled into thinking because its fashionable on the streets that it will be acceptable at flight school/airline interviews.
When I was doing my flight school selection one chap on the selection had quite alot of hair, styled quite 'free style' shall we say.
He didn't make the grade, this was partly to do with his scores on the tests but he also told me that the interview panel did mention his hair and told him that it would have been wise to cut it. They obviously did not approve of it and to be honest I would have agreed with them.
At the end of the day you want to give yourself the best possible chance and getting picked up on your hair in a negative sense is a real shame! Its just not worth it... remember they are looking for the 'right kind of people' meeting the grade academically is only one part of it, how you look on the day is absolutely vital. Remember first impressions count alot.
Look the part for the selection days (clothes, shoes, hair.. everything!) then once you pass and are in the flight school or airline then you can have the hair you want (to a certain extent)... after all the initial selection nobody really cares, its more of a cabin crew issue then for the pilots because they deal with the passengers face to face more. Having said that, it does not mean we can all go wild but flight crew get more lee way.
Good Luck!
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Hi Matty
Hi Matty... I'm sorry old son but this is one of the most disturbing threads I've ever read in Pprune. Why?
1 Because you are already on the road to a career in aviation yet you need to ask about your haircut? Has mummy always made that decision for you?
2 Because your grammar and spelling are appalling!
If you didn't know it Matty, the industry is going through one of the worst recessions in history. Jobs and opportunities are scarce and there is huge competition for every opening.
The degree of care which you exercise with regard to your personal grooming and written work will be noted ..... and you cannot afford to lose any brownie-points if you are serious about achieving your goals!
Good luck anyway! bm
1 Because you are already on the road to a career in aviation yet you need to ask about your haircut? Has mummy always made that decision for you?
2 Because your grammar and spelling are appalling!
If you didn't know it Matty, the industry is going through one of the worst recessions in history. Jobs and opportunities are scarce and there is huge competition for every opening.
The degree of care which you exercise with regard to your personal grooming and written work will be noted ..... and you cannot afford to lose any brownie-points if you are serious about achieving your goals!
Good luck anyway! bm
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"my hair is not long but it is touching the colar and covering my ears and I have a fringe just below eye brow hight."
Now this sounds like a mullet, which is a fantastic hair cut. Many people have succeeded previously which such a classic barnet for example;
Ian Botham, Mel Gibson, Chris Waddle, Glen Hoddle, Andre Aggassi and even Bono.
So i wouldn't say you need to worry. Unless it's a ginger one, then your buggered.
EDIT:
I forgot to mention Billy Ray Cyrus and, my favorite mullet, Micheal Bolton.
Now this sounds like a mullet, which is a fantastic hair cut. Many people have succeeded previously which such a classic barnet for example;
Ian Botham, Mel Gibson, Chris Waddle, Glen Hoddle, Andre Aggassi and even Bono.
So i wouldn't say you need to worry. Unless it's a ginger one, then your buggered.
EDIT:
I forgot to mention Billy Ray Cyrus and, my favorite mullet, Micheal Bolton.
Last edited by lazy george; 29th Apr 2009 at 18:33. Reason: Remembered more mulleted celebs!
