Etihad Cadet Pilot Training Assessment 2009
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How many pilot trainees are expected to be hired? Are there rolling classes? Are all successful trainees placed on the A320/319 as First Officers or placed on bigger airplanes like the A330/340 or 777s as Second Officers?
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"For those who didn't bother turning up (250 out of 600), don't bother trying again as we don't want you. You just wasted another 250 people's chances of attempting it for themselves.". They weren't happy about it. However it does mean that there is a better chance for us that have done the tests as the pool of candidates is now smaller.
I like how they said "attempting it", did they bother to mention the likeliness of passing? All in all it is better for those who were present, there's less competition! The ignorance!
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250 not turning up does not put you in any better situation even if it meant the smaller pool, in the end of the day it comes down to your performance in the actual test , having said that it is sad because of these people i didnt get a place at London assessment as i was told its full and had to book a place for Frankfurt.
malirm:
you saying you attempted 90% and lets pray you get 90/90 in all the six tests.
do lets us know..
Hope everyone can make it for Frankfurt, i will for sure as long as im still breathing, looking forward to that its a good feeling competinig against all you Aces outhere.
Very best wishes to all .
malirm:
you saying you attempted 90% and lets pray you get 90/90 in all the six tests.
do lets us know..
Hope everyone can make it for Frankfurt, i will for sure as long as im still breathing, looking forward to that its a good feeling competinig against all you Aces outhere.
Very best wishes to all .
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Deniz...
Sorry mate but you must be nuts!
Go and say the same thing to 250 people that got an e-mail - "sorry but we are full, try another time". See how they gonna feel about it.
And they do have a right to say that as if you will be selected they gonna give you everything.
Try getting into cadet program in US, hehehe. or even get a flying job on 320!
GL to you, maybe once u get about 3000 TT with 1000 multi.
Sorry mate but you must be nuts!
Go and say the same thing to 250 people that got an e-mail - "sorry but we are full, try another time". See how they gonna feel about it.
And they do have a right to say that as if you will be selected they gonna give you everything.
Try getting into cadet program in US, hehehe. or even get a flying job on 320!
GL to you, maybe once u get about 3000 TT with 1000 multi.
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Hi guys. I'm going to the Frankfurt assessment on the 24th so if any of you are going feel free to drop me a PM for whatever reason (meet up etc).
And yes i wanted London, in fact, where was the test centre? - I live about half a mile from centre point, so i could have probably walked there.
Must have been frustrating for Etihad having 250 non-starters, though that would always be likely given it was relatively easy to apply for and you put down no commitment yourself. I guess in a way you can see the justification for integrated courses etc charging for assessment.
Anyway i can't wait to go, i just hope i have the skills that they are looking for.
The ones who applies early to get a place, but didn't turn up, obviously didn't want it that bad did they?
And yes i wanted London, in fact, where was the test centre? - I live about half a mile from centre point, so i could have probably walked there.
Must have been frustrating for Etihad having 250 non-starters, though that would always be likely given it was relatively easy to apply for and you put down no commitment yourself. I guess in a way you can see the justification for integrated courses etc charging for assessment.
Anyway i can't wait to go, i just hope i have the skills that they are looking for.
If there were those who didn't make it through to this stage it is purely because they weren't quick in sending in a application or reapplying! And that boils down to how bad you want it and how often you checked up on the cadet program.
A340X – if you’re capable of getting a Class 1 Medical you should be o.k. AFAIK, correctable to 20/20is fine.
Iver – Etihad are recruiting with the intention of cadets going on to the A320 series, no airline will ever put low hours cadets onto a wide body. From what I was told, after 5 years you’ll be trained for the A330/A340. Bear in mind that you’ll still be flying the A320 too. You’re a second officer until you’ve completed all your line training and signed off on the Airbus – then they give you 3 stripes. I heard 70 as a figure for the number of cadets needed this year. I don’t know if they’re all coming from the London and Frankfurt assessments. Bear in mind that stage two will be mid April and the first training course due to start in June/July.
I’d say that the majority of people who didn’t turn up couldn’t be bothered. Of course there are going to be some that couldn’t make it with legitimate reasons. I doubt that the guys passed on a message to be posted on pprune but then again I wasn’t at the Thursday assessment so I wouldn’t know.
Etihad are not going to fill the spaces on the course just for the sake of it. If they have 70 spaces and only 50 suitable cadets then that’s all they’ll take. IMO, the lesser number of applicants will increase your chances of getting to stage two but won’t increase your chances of getting the job. Unfortunately there will be some guys who won’t get to stage two who will make fantastic pilots, just victims of the assessment process. Someone might have an amazing ability to ace all the tests first time, but will be a total ass that won’t pass the interview stage (someone you WONT want to be sat with in the flight deck for 8 hours, let alone share a beer with). He would have sat higher up in the league tables when it comes to selecting who’s going through to round two and will therefore knock out someone below him.
There is no doubt about it, for every person who didn’t turn up, another could have attended who could be exactly what Etihad are looking for. Maybe a waiting list should have been created, then if people knew they were not going to show, Etihad could have taken the next in line instead.
Iver – Etihad are recruiting with the intention of cadets going on to the A320 series, no airline will ever put low hours cadets onto a wide body. From what I was told, after 5 years you’ll be trained for the A330/A340. Bear in mind that you’ll still be flying the A320 too. You’re a second officer until you’ve completed all your line training and signed off on the Airbus – then they give you 3 stripes. I heard 70 as a figure for the number of cadets needed this year. I don’t know if they’re all coming from the London and Frankfurt assessments. Bear in mind that stage two will be mid April and the first training course due to start in June/July.
I’d say that the majority of people who didn’t turn up couldn’t be bothered. Of course there are going to be some that couldn’t make it with legitimate reasons. I doubt that the guys passed on a message to be posted on pprune but then again I wasn’t at the Thursday assessment so I wouldn’t know.
Etihad are not going to fill the spaces on the course just for the sake of it. If they have 70 spaces and only 50 suitable cadets then that’s all they’ll take. IMO, the lesser number of applicants will increase your chances of getting to stage two but won’t increase your chances of getting the job. Unfortunately there will be some guys who won’t get to stage two who will make fantastic pilots, just victims of the assessment process. Someone might have an amazing ability to ace all the tests first time, but will be a total ass that won’t pass the interview stage (someone you WONT want to be sat with in the flight deck for 8 hours, let alone share a beer with). He would have sat higher up in the league tables when it comes to selecting who’s going through to round two and will therefore knock out someone below him.
There is no doubt about it, for every person who didn’t turn up, another could have attended who could be exactly what Etihad are looking for. Maybe a waiting list should have been created, then if people knew they were not going to show, Etihad could have taken the next in line instead.
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250 not turning up does not put you in any better situation even if it meant the smaller pool, in the end of the day it comes down to your performance in the actual test
it is sad because of these people i didnt get a place at London assessment as i was told its full and had to book a place for Frankfurt.
"sorry but we are full, try another time". See how they gonna feel about it.
And they do have a right to say that as if you will be selected they gonna give you everything.
And they do have a right to say that as if you will be selected they gonna give you everything.
The ones who applies early to get a place, but didn't turn up, obviously didn't want it that bad did they?
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Provided you are at or above EY's baseline standard, then of course less people turning up helps you. If there are 200 people above this level, but EY are only taking on 100, and you are ranked the 150th 'best', then you will not be making it. If half the people turn up you can crudely say there will be only 100 people above the standard and that you will be ranked 75, you will then be in the 100 EY will be taking on.
That said, to be above EY's standard you can bet you'll have to be motivated and have great determinations. Something that those that didn't turn up might not have.
That said, to be above EY's standard you can bet you'll have to be motivated and have great determinations. Something that those that didn't turn up might not have.
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They are offering 70 places or so throughout the year. That includes each assessment country as well as the UAE nationals.
They are going to invite 50 or so for interviews and further tests mid April from the London and Frankfurt batch of applicants.
Applicants from the other assessments that get through to round 2 go for their further tests and interviews later in the year, (September time I think).
They did say if you have commitments in April and you are lucky enough to be selected for stage 2 then you can defer till the later one in September, (If that is when it is ?!?)
Good Luck Guys and Girls.
They are going to invite 50 or so for interviews and further tests mid April from the London and Frankfurt batch of applicants.
Applicants from the other assessments that get through to round 2 go for their further tests and interviews later in the year, (September time I think).
They did say if you have commitments in April and you are lucky enough to be selected for stage 2 then you can defer till the later one in September, (If that is when it is ?!?)
Good Luck Guys and Girls.
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That's a ridiculous statement to make! Especially coming from those who run the assessments! They do not know the circumstances surrounding those applicants decisions or actions! Those 250 people did not waste anyone's chances. If there were those who didn't make it through to this stage it is purely because they weren't quick in sending in a application or reapplying!
And that boils down to how bad you want it and how often you checked up on the cadet program.
That takes balls to say something like that, here in the states, it's called the "macho" attitude that will get you nowhere.
They probably don't have that section on the JAA written tests. Maybe if they did some screening it wouldn't have been such a problem. But then again they do know what they are doing. The irony is that these are guys who have not taken the test themselves and yet they 'know what they want'!
I like how they said "attempting it", did they bother to mention the likeliness of passing? All in all it is better for those who were present, there's less competition! The ignorance!
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Leading Edge:
Of course it puts people in a better situation. Say the same thing happens in Frankfurt. So say only 300 show up there. They entire pool of candidates are now made up of 650 people. The are selecting, potentially, 70 people from this pool. That is over 1 in 10 people getting through, in otherwords there is a 12% chance of getting through. This of course is assuming that everyone has the potential of making the final grade, which is not the case so your potential is even higher. Say that everyone turned up; then you have 70 in 1000 chance of going through which is only a 7% chance. Whilst it does come down to your performance, the less people there, the less chance there will be someone to perform that little bit better than you to knock you off your stool....
250 not turning up does not put you in any better situation even if it meant the smaller pool, in the end of the day it comes down to your performance in the actual test , having said that it is sad because of these people i didnt get a place at London assessment as i was told its full and had to book a place for Frankfurt.
Of course it puts people in a better situation. Say the same thing happens in Frankfurt. So say only 300 show up there. They entire pool of candidates are now made up of 650 people. The are selecting, potentially, 70 people from this pool. That is over 1 in 10 people getting through, in otherwords there is a 12% chance of getting through. This of course is assuming that everyone has the potential of making the final grade, which is not the case so your potential is even higher. Say that everyone turned up; then you have 70 in 1000 chance of going through which is only a 7% chance. Whilst it does come down to your performance, the less people there, the less chance there will be someone to perform that little bit better than you to knock you off your stool....
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@ Leading Edge 7e7
Lets hope I get what is needs to pass Stage 1... you don't know what goes on when checking the papers!!!, I answered all questions, but a kinda made sure of getting almost 5/6 of them right, maybe I'm wrong 
next week is the results week ... Best Wishes from my side & hope to hear some good news about you people . BTW, any news about L273???, I'm sure it wasn't me (I'm L323)...
GOOD LUCK to FRA guys
next week is the results week ... Best Wishes from my side & hope to hear some good news about you people . BTW, any news about L273???, I'm sure it wasn't me (I'm L323)...GOOD LUCK to FRA guys
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I agree with ATCNoob.
They even stated that in the email:
Anyway, considering 2 days for London, each with two sessions, I assume there have been far more than 600 people attending the tests...
They even stated that in the email:
Should you be UNABLE to attend the assessment please be kind enough to send us an email.
I doubt anyone here knows what EYs selection criteria is. They could either bring the top 50 from Frankfurt/London or only people who scored 90% and above. For example, those who scored 90% and above could only amount to some 40 people.
At this time all this speculation is pretty pointless.
As for L273, I heard from him. Nothing serious, just some administrative issues
At this time all this speculation is pretty pointless.
As for L273, I heard from him. Nothing serious, just some administrative issues
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I am so annoyed i missed this....i have been away alot with work and have been putting in alot of hours at home so i didn't hear about this sponsorship until last week.
Does anyone know if they will be recruiting for this again? i tried to read the whole thread but my eyes are stinging so sorry if it was said already and i missed it.
Does anyone know if they will be recruiting for this again? i tried to read the whole thread but my eyes are stinging so sorry if it was said already and i missed it.
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Etihad Airways is a professional company and when they invite candidates to an assessment, they expect the candidates to behave professionally. Therefore they do not want to waste time on people showing up not wearing a suit and on people who prevent possible candidates from participating.
I assume from that emoticon you disagree with my comment. It would be nice if you were to expand, mind reader I am not.
Can you really see someone with 250hrs going straight into a 777 or A330/340?
You will usually need at least a year or more before you move onto the A330 from an A320. I'm not saying it hasn't happened before, just these days you'll need experience before moving onto the heavier aircraft.
Perhaps I should rephrase my comment, "the majority of airlines will not put low hour cadets (250hrs ish) straight onto a wide body".
Can you really see someone with 250hrs going straight into a 777 or A330/340?
You will usually need at least a year or more before you move onto the A330 from an A320. I'm not saying it hasn't happened before, just these days you'll need experience before moving onto the heavier aircraft.
Perhaps I should rephrase my comment, "the majority of airlines will not put low hour cadets (250hrs ish) straight onto a wide body".
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Deniz..
How old are you? 15!?!?
Get real! As somebody said before they pay alot of money to organize such a "gig"! And no.. its not walk-in deal, they invite you and expect that you SHOW UP.
I dont know whats up with you and your post, but whenever you write anything about EY cadet program it has to be NEGATIVE.
Why dont you just stop posting (since u seem "NOT interested" in EY cadet program), or you have nothing better to do?
I dont know... maybe you been rejected by them or something.
Since you dont like their "macho" ways you should look for something better back in the States.
Im sure every single Airline there have such a great DEAL...
How old are you? 15!?!?
Get real! As somebody said before they pay alot of money to organize such a "gig"! And no.. its not walk-in deal, they invite you and expect that you SHOW UP.
I dont know whats up with you and your post, but whenever you write anything about EY cadet program it has to be NEGATIVE.
Why dont you just stop posting (since u seem "NOT interested" in EY cadet program), or you have nothing better to do?
I dont know... maybe you been rejected by them or something.
Since you dont like their "macho" ways you should look for something better back in the States.
Im sure every single Airline there have such a great DEAL...