Is this Spannish Airline for real!?

[tarasky]

Check out this link and read the FO requirements. I know ppjn isn't gospel but I have always found it pretty reliable.
Can an airline really have these sort of requirements??
Opinions appreciated!

Tara

http://www.pilotjobsnetwork.com/fact...mq37ks4xf3fa4s

[C-130 SCORPION]

The answer to the question is yes.
They have plenty of people whising to join the airline with the qualifications needed. The pay is good and the airline is a good one to work for.
They have the right to ask for what they think that meet their requirements so why not?
Take care guys.

[Downwind2Land]

Tarasky....

As ever in life, it ain't necessarily what you know, it's who you know and who you are that counts.

d2l

[Flaperon75]

I'm not sure I get your point.... do you think that 1000 hours is alot or a little for FO? There are certainly airlines that require less hours and others that require more. What about these requirements suprises you?

[Flaperon75]

oh - just reread the requirements and saw the bit about 'bonus hours if victim of a terrorist attack'. That is a bit odd!

[D O Guerrero]

Victim of a terrorist attack??!!!
Are they having a laugh? Perhaps they also do discounts for groups and children under 10?

[tarasky]

Of course it's the part about the "victim of a terrorist attack" guys, not the rest....jeez.
I see everyone took a "serious" pill today or something....relax.

[eagle21]

Yes the requirements are genuine. And regarding extra points for being a victime of a terrorist attack is simply stupid. This is what you get when a shirt makers decides to create and airline.

Wouldn't it be funny to write in your application that all airline pilots are victims of terrorism after Sept 11????


Now on a serious note it is pathetic and makes many of us not want to even apply for a position in this airline.

Maybe Hidalgo should concentrate in recruiting the most suitable candidates for a job as an airline pilot and maybe his planes would not be one day chopping approach lights and another day about to hang from a cliff.....

[preduk]

I may be talking nonsense, but I seem to remember there was a good reason for it. Something to do with the madrid bombings I'm sure.

Hopefully a spaniard would be able to clarify?

[maniaticodellift]

I guess it applies for people related with the victims of basque terrorist group (ETA).
Regarding the requirements, I just see that they either demmand people with flight experience or academic background. Theres nothing wrong with that, specially if they cover all the vacancies.
Middle east airlines requirements are almost the same for F/O and S/O positions.

Happy landings.

[Jumbo744]

they could have a preference for those who have a university degree, and been victim of terroriste attack (that's a stupid preference), but the way they formulated it is wrong. How a university degree can be equivalent to 575h, and how being victim of terrorist attack gives you more hours?

[BelArgUSA]

It is their airline, they do want they want.
If I had an airline, I would favor high flight experience and high education level for pilots.
In Spain the Basque ETA attacks, and the Al Qaeda train attack has left a lot of grief.
Exactly like in USA with the 9/11 attack, or the London terrorists.
Maybe the heads of airline want to show support for relatives of victims.
Nothing wrong about that.

Happy contrails

[bucket_and_spade]

As an aside and for future reference, PPJN's fact-checking of submissions can be ropey at best.

Myself and a few trainee pilot friends (childishly!) uploaded an amendment to a well-known UK airline's PPJN profile as a practical joke on another trainee friend, not expecting it to be published. It was, very quickly! It had no basis in fact whatsoever and, what's more, was blatantly ridiculous to read!

[CRASH TEST]

I believe you wouldn´t complain too much if you had a university degree that could take you to the right seat of an airline such as AEA. If you think this is unfair I invite you spend the next four years of your life studying hard in order to get a diploma and then be able to add the hours.It just takes time and dedication!

If candidate A and candidate B have the same training (ATPL) ,the same flight experience but one holds a university degree and the other not, then I think the one with the degree should get the job. Maybe the candidate without the degree is a better pilot BUT the other one has worked harder and managed to earn his degree.

During the 11-M terrorist attacks in Madrid an AEA employee who was just finishing his pilot cadet training in AEA died.Besides, here in Spain we have struggled with the ETA attacks since the 60´s and it is still today a major concern not only for the Government but for all of us, citizens.

[BerksFlyer]

If candidate A and candidate B have the same training (ATPL) ,the same flight experience but one holds a university degree and the other not, then I think the one with the degree should get the job. Maybe the candidate without the degree is a better pilot BUT the other one has worked harder and managed to earn his degree.

With respect, I think that's a strange way to look at it. If one applies for the job as a pilot, the person who's best for the job as a pilot should get it. Recruiters aren't charity cases who are going to think 'oh, A is a better pilot but B has a degree which has nothing to do with his effectiveness as a pilot of my aircraft, but he did work hard for it, so I'm giving him the job.'

[Melnaboo]

Crash Test:

I think that both points of view are WRONG. You just CANNOT judge who has been working harder to become an airline pilot. You don't know nothing about their environments, family or circunstances.
What about if now you know that the pilot B got the degree paying money in that kind of private universities where you get the degree just paying?

What about if someone tells you that the pilot A has been working in a mine for 10 years, and as a waiter on weekends, just to collect the money to pay his studies?

Anyone should judge who should get a position as an airline pilot based in events out of the proper requirements of the job itself.
Anyone is a better pilot (or deserves it more) just for have a university degree or for be affected by a terrorism attack.

Of course it is their airline and they can do whatever they want, but my opinion is that that kind of selection process is not going to get the best pilots between all their candidates, so, the selection process is no good and should be amended ASAP if they want to improve its quality.

Good flights to all of you!

[johnnyDB]

if I have a degree, just happend to be hanging around at 11 sep and my mother just married someone in the company, do i require any flying at all?

[Leezyjet]

If candidate A and candidate B have the same training (ATPL) ,the same flight experience but one holds a university degree and the other not, then I think the one with the degree should get the job. Maybe the candidate without the degree is a better pilot BUT the other one has worked harder and managed to earn his degree.

What utter rubbish. One can get a degree at some universities just by dragging ones backside out of bed and attending lectures. Also what use is something like an Art degree in aviation ?. Fair enough if it is something relevant like engineering or an academic subject that require alot of research, but some degree's are not worth the paper they are written on.

[D O Guerrero]

" One can get a degree at some universities just by dragging ones backside out of bed and attending lectures"

Even that's not a requirement at some places in the UK...

[CRASH TEST]

What utter rubbish. One can get a degree at some universities just by dragging ones backside out of bed and attending lectures. Also what use is something like an Art degree in aviation ?. Fair enough if it is something relevant like engineering or an academic subject that require alot of research, but some degree's are not worth the paper they are written on

I don´t have a clue how University degrees are given out in the Uk but believe me that that is not the case in Spain.Here it is not easy to earn a degree (or at least is not a pay-get diploma system)

I guess we´re all right to a certain extent.

Happy landings to all of you and best of luck!