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Old 19th Nov 2007, 16:36
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NetJets 2008

So, who's been successful?
I'm through to Stage 2!
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Old 19th Nov 2007, 17:05
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Congrats on Stage 2, this is at OAT-yes?

Any idea what NetJets have said so far in terms on how long they will run these, until END of 2008 anyway?

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Old 19th Nov 2007, 18:22
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Tom the scheme is now effectively open on a rolling basis. OAT will run assessments fairly regularly (possibly once a month but don't quote me on that). They will compile files and send them to NJE who will run stage 3 once every 3 months or so. They plan to recruit 48 cadets each year.
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Old 19th Nov 2007, 18:26
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Re NetJets

Hi,
I just got an email a while ago telling me I got through stage 1 and was invited to stage 2 at OAT , further datails to be given shortly.
First of all congrats to all those who applied and congrats to all those who got through this stage, and good luck to all, of course.
Any idea what percentage of original applicants might have been called for stage 2 and how many more or less we will be at that stage?

besides that, any help or advice or hints as to what and how best to prepare would be highly appreciated.

Thanks and regards
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Old 19th Nov 2007, 19:05
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Hi Phil.

I've seen you around the OAT forums...how are you getting on, if I remember correctly you are on a NJE cadet-ship - congrats.

Thanks for that, gives me a better understanding of what they are up to!

Cheers
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Old 19th Nov 2007, 19:19
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No worries.

I am nearly half way through ground school and my first set of ATPL's is early December (time seems to really fly!).

The new course of cadets started today and there is a much wider spread of nationalities which is good. I think that makes 27 of us here now.

You just missed one of the larger open days and NJE brought a Hawker 800 down which was nice but rather crowded as there were something like 500 attendees - most of whom wanted to get into the cockpit.

If you have not yet applied then I recommend you do if you think business aviation is the right lifestyle for you (obviously everyone is different.)

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Old 20th Nov 2007, 08:35
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I'm also through, looking forward to meeting some of you in Oxford in December

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Old 20th Nov 2007, 13:14
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I have also been accepted for Stage 2 but I am currently weighing up OAT vs Cabair (it is nearer to me) ...also the whole 'You must have accomodation at OAT' issue


I will have a think
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Old 20th Nov 2007, 13:50
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So, if I'm reading this correctly, the successful candidates have already been sent conformation for Stage 2 progression...

Not heard anything so I guess that means a new application then!
OAT & NJE confirmed that their application process was monthly ongoing now, with an annual intake of 48, so theres hope yet I guess.

The NetJets guys at Oxford on Saturday were really helpful and gave a good insight into the lifestyle involved. Sealed it into my mind that this is what Id like to pursue. Plus the Hawker was might impressive and well worth the 40min wait!

So if anyone from NJE is reading this, then Id like to say thanks for the info and get ready for my 2nd application!

****EDIT****

Just picked up the confirmation email for Stage 2. MADE UP
Best get practicing that trig / MA / numeracy...

I'm booked in for Dec 12th & (hopefully) 13th too

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Old 20th Nov 2007, 14:21
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Congratulations!

I was not so lucky. I was rejected for stage 2. It was disappointing since I am really good at those sort of tests they use for stage 2.

Well, I guess I just have to submit a new and better application in some months.

By the way, does anyone know if norwegians are allowed on the program? I guess it must be that or my essays that lead to me being rejected...
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Old 20th Nov 2007, 14:57
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I don't know about the programme but we certainly have Norwegians flying for us.
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Old 20th Nov 2007, 16:09
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Anybody else going down on the 12th and (hopefully ) 13th December?

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Old 20th Nov 2007, 22:09
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I'm going down on the 5th, looks like I'll be one of the first!!

Congrats to everyone, look forward to seeing some of you down there!
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Old 20th Nov 2007, 22:51
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The OAT/NetJets FAQ says applicants must have EU or Swiss citizenship. Norway is not part of the EU. Perhaps the ones Redsnail mentions have dual citizenship. I'm not sure why the rules would be different for cadets than direct entry pilots, but it appears they are.
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No, they don't have dual citizenship. They are "just" Norwegian. We've also got Swedes too. They are a part of Schengen though.
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Old 21st Nov 2007, 11:33
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Hi guys/gals!

Got my response from OAT for the 5th aswell.

Still, im in two minds whether to go any further.

My issue is with the Netjets lifestyle. While the idea of flying business jets to a changing destination everyday sounds exciting and the pay and conditions seem quite good, its the idea of working 5/6 days away from base that worries me.
Now I know your going to say, "well if thats your issue then you shouldnt seek a career flying."
Now maybe its just me but the idea of being away from your wife/husband/partner or kids for nearly the entire week for the course of your career seems quite extreme. Not only on yourself but the people close to you.

While im aware that being a pilot involves trips away, overnights etc. its the thought of knowing that with the likes of Netjets, you will spend nearly half your working life seperated from ones loved ones.

Maybe im wrong but from what I know of other airlines, you seem to be home after every shift and if not then maybe after an overnight or two. Thats fine with me. Even the idea of spending a week away from base once a month or something similar is fine with me but the Netjets schedule comes across a tad severe.
I wonder how current Netjets flightcrews family's cope with the absence of their jet setting loved one?!

Anyway, my rant over.

Ill have to decide now whether to sacrifice my home life for my career...?
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Old 21st Nov 2007, 13:32
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Incidentally, does anyone know if we have to prepare a proper CV for the stage 2 interviews?

And anyone planning to travel down to Oxford on the evening of the 4th?

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Old 21st Nov 2007, 14:35
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The lifestyle - as a newly qualified pilot - is fairly specific to business aviation as when you join the airlines you will no doubt be flying short-haul. If you are having doubts at this stage then this might not be the right role for you but does not imply that there is not another more suitable position out there.
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Old 22nd Nov 2007, 07:18
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Actually I had to ask myself the same question. I will start @ Netjets in January. But: Now I worked in a company, a regional one, where you also can be away 15 nights a month, for half the money und you only have 8-9 days off.
When you look at the netjets schedule you will realise that when you calculate your days off and your vacation you will only work as less as 14 days a month average.
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Old 22nd Nov 2007, 18:03
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It's not too bad being away for 5 nights at a time. After all, you're home for 5 days in a row. I don't have kids but many of my colleagues do. They use Skype and other such means to call home as often as possible. If you have a genuine crisis at home, eg partner or child very sick etc, you'll be sent home without question. If you're injured at work or fall ill, you'll be sent home as soon as possible. The company will approve the use of you and your crew to fly yourself back to your gateway if no other means to get your home in a timely manner exists. (Exceptional circumstances of course, eg wife going into labour early etc)

I find getting the overnights "over and done with" in a block's much easier than 1 or 2 nights here and there. (Done that sort of roster too).

One thing to note, when you're on days off, the company will not contact you to "come in and help out". Every other company I have worked for has done that to me on my days off. Some more often than others. You also rarely do home standby.

It is possible to request specific days off if given enough notice. Something the loco's appear not to be able to do. (if going on what my husband's easyJet roster's like)

It depends on your energy levels but if you're working for eJ (for example), you'll do a block of earlies and that may have you in bed by 8pm if not earlier. If you're doing lates, you'll be returning home often after 10pm.

Each job has it's swings and roundabouts. If you don't think you can handle being away from home for 5 nights in a row (occassionally less - very rarely more) then don't join Netjets.
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