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Old 23rd Nov 2007, 08:45
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Thanks for the informative reply Redsnail.
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Old 23rd Nov 2007, 14:06
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Yep, now on standby in Palma de Mallorca. Don't you feel sorry for me?
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Old 23rd Nov 2007, 14:31
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its the idea of working 5/6 days away from base that worries me.
Now I know your going to say, "well if thats your issue then you shouldnt seek a career flying."
Now maybe its just me but the idea of being away from your wife/husband/partner or kids for nearly the entire week for the course of your career seems quite extreme. Not only on yourself but the people close to you.
Wow do you have expectations I think you will find hard to satisfy in aviation)! Have you any idea what a hard core airline crew schedule is like? It sounds like you want to be a stay-at-home family person....like all day AND night! Do you know some people doing 9-5 spend 12 hours a day away from home? Some even have to spend all week away from home
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Old 24th Nov 2007, 17:37
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Wow do you have expectations I think you will find hard to satisfy in aviation)! Have you any idea what a hard core airline crew schedule is like? It sounds like you want to be a stay-at-home family person....like all day AND night! Do you know some people doing 9-5 spend 12 hours a day away from home? Some even have to spend all week away from home
Im aware of that Rainboe. My current job sees me working 12 hour days and im regularly away from home for up to 5 nights.
My point was that I wasnt sure whether the Netjets schedule of 5 days abroad for every working week of my career was something id want from a job.
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Old 26th Nov 2007, 21:36
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108.9,

Five days abroad for every week within a 6 on 5 off pattern? excuse me, but I think you exaggerate. If not, where can I get some 11 day weeks? I'm so short of time for personal projects that I'd love an 11 day week with 5 of them to my self and family!

Also, nobody said you have to do it for the rest of your life. I would imagine NetJets ROI/payback is about 5 years, so I'd be surprised if you are obligated longer than that.
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Old 27th Nov 2007, 11:00
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Hi....

Anyone else down at Oxford on the 10th & 11th?
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Old 27th Nov 2007, 14:50
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In the end I decided against going to Stage 2.

I realise any offer of sponsorship / mentorship must be jumped on but when you include the cost of mandatory accomodation at OAT and the hidden extras of money whilst in Phoenix it was asking too much really.

On top of that I have my University debt which is another factor.

I will be looking back towards CTC / Cabair.
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Old 27th Nov 2007, 16:24
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hello taking to the skies

I'll be at oxford for stage 2 the 10/11th too.
I'll drive from Paris the 9th

see you there
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Old 27th Nov 2007, 16:59
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Hi Alpha Mike,

Are you staying at Oxford airport or nearby?

cheers.
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Old 27th Nov 2007, 23:50
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Taking to the skies

I'll stay at OAT accomodation sunday evening and hopefully monday evening too.
Sunday I'll probably be there around 5 o'clock, depending on my left driving adaptation......
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Old 28th Nov 2007, 14:15
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Alpha Mike,

I'll email you my mobile number so we can have a chat before the BIG day - see you then
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Old 29th Nov 2007, 19:13
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I wonder how many people are applying this scheme who have always wanted to do private jet flying, and how many simply see it as a scheme to get a 'foot in the door' with the ultimate aim of working for the airlines? It's certainly one of the better schemes financially. However I guess some people might really enjoy it after all and stay, whilst others may decide to move on. I don't know how easy it is to move from private jets to airlines, as private jets are maybe under the MTOW threshold that some airlines look for (not sure of the exact figure, 25t rings a bell).
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Old 29th Nov 2007, 20:22
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I don't know how easy it is to move from private jets to airlines, as private jets are maybe under the MTOW threshold that some airlines look for (not sure of the exact figure, 25t rings a bell).
Certainly in the UK it is not rare and far from it to join an airline operating Airbus/Boeing with as little as few hundred hours on pistons or turbo props King Air style.
All companies have different mini requirements but what is truly critical is how much and how quickly they need pilots. Right now the answers are... A lot and Yesterday.
But if they are going through a rapid expansion then they will favour guys with 3000 hours or so with some time on heavier equipment than a Seneca simply because the possibility and feasability to recruit Direct Entry Captains are the limit to their expansion/strategy. What I mean is that they want guys who can upgrade really quickly which translates into guys who meet nearly all the mini requirements to get through an upgrade course.
But having jet time on pretty much whatever is a big, big advantage. Nevermind the weight, specially if you are in your 20s.
Hardly no company expects a 25 years old to have 3000 on Jets over 20 Tonnes. Not that they don't exist but they are no necessarily the norm so airlines take a more practical approach towards they recruitment requirements.
In short and to answer your question, the 25 Tonnes thing you have in mind might be a requirements for one or more companies but no more than that. Requirements change and many have different ones.
I flew my first 115 Tonnes jet right after flying a chieftain... Until then I had never flown anything bigger than a 1900.
It wasn't that long ago and it was in the UK so here is hope for some...
As for now, well, I have left the airlines and enjoy flying Bizjets. Not for everybody but my kind of work. Like you though, assuming the job market remains good and talking about people getting on this scheme in their 20s, 30s, I too wonder what proportion will stick around for more than a couple of years.
Not necessarily because they don't like the job or the company but mostly because they will probably want to try their hands on the big stuffs.

Regards to all
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Old 4th Dec 2007, 05:12
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Now open to the EEA

Today the scheme was extended to the EEA which means that Iceland, Liechtenstein and Norway are now included and eligible.
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Old 4th Dec 2007, 10:35
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hi all

how long did it take before OAT got back to you with regards to you being successful at the application stage??
i applied on the 28th November and haven't heard anything yet.

cheers

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Old 4th Dec 2007, 13:45
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Considering that was right before a weekend and it is only the 4th today, learn to be a little bit more patient

It took around 1 1/2 months for them to reply to me.

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Old 4th Dec 2007, 13:56
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Thats ok then. It was just a general question!
Just that other schemes I've applied to have been alot quicker in replying. guess this one is pretty popular.
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Old 4th Dec 2007, 14:29
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Schemes replied in less then 3 working days? Give me the schemes you have applied for please
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Old 4th Dec 2007, 19:33
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OAT/NetJets

Hi to you all,

Got an invitation for stage 2
I have to be there on the 13th & 14th of December. Anyone else travelling to Oxford on the 12th?

I was also wondering if some one could give me an idea what to expect at stage 2?

Thanks & cheers
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Old 4th Dec 2007, 22:56
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Hi all,
was just wondering what the average age of previously seleceted cadets might be? Read a post on a different website that said they dont really take early-twentyish guys and girls, any truth in this?? I'll only be 21 when the courses start and i'm feeling a little perturbed!
Cheers T1
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