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I applied for it, yes, I don't deny it, had no real plans to start it, was a crazy thing to do, useful for interview experience and had some sort of chance of a job after it. Worried the hell out of me, so turned it down.
Totally different to going to an airline and paying them to fly an aeroplane for hours building! It is killing recruitment and any kind of sponsorship or help from airlines and the more people do it the worse it will get. Moral of the story it's a crazy thing to do to pay to work so DON'T DO IT.
I'm not trying to spoil people's illusions, I love what I do, don't get me wrong, but after sitting on a flight deck for 5 hours flying in airspace where air traffic is not particularly busy, with your feet getting more and more cold, it does get a little monotinous (if that is how it's spelt). It is just a job at the end of the day, and to pay to do that is complete and utter madness! + it's ruining the Ts&Cs for airline pilots a la Mr O'Leary!!
Totally different to going to an airline and paying them to fly an aeroplane for hours building! It is killing recruitment and any kind of sponsorship or help from airlines and the more people do it the worse it will get. Moral of the story it's a crazy thing to do to pay to work so DON'T DO IT.
I'm not trying to spoil people's illusions, I love what I do, don't get me wrong, but after sitting on a flight deck for 5 hours flying in airspace where air traffic is not particularly busy, with your feet getting more and more cold, it does get a little monotinous (if that is how it's spelt). It is just a job at the end of the day, and to pay to do that is complete and utter madness! + it's ruining the Ts&Cs for airline pilots a la Mr O'Leary!!
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I applied for it, yes, I don't deny it, had no real plans to start it, was a crazy thing to do, useful for interview experience and had some sort of chance of a job after it. Worried the hell out of me, so turned it down.
Totally different to going to an airline and paying them to fly an aeroplane for hours building! It is killing recruitment and any kind of sponsorship or help from airlines and the more people do it the worse it will get. Moral of the story it's a crazy thing to do to pay to work so DON'T DO IT.
I'm not trying to spoil people's illusions, I love what I do, don't get me wrong, but after sitting on a flight deck for 5 hours flying in airspace where air traffic is not particularly busy, with your feet getting more and more cold, it does get a little monotinous (if that is how it's spelt). It is just a job at the end of the day, and to pay to do that is complete and utter madness! + it's ruining the Ts&Cs for airline pilots a la Mr O'Leary!!
Oh dear Sin Bin, I can't believe what you are saying in the above text
'I applied for it but had no real plans to start it'
Useful for interview experience
Had 'some' sort of a job offer
It's a crazy thing to do to pay to work
I love what I do, But tends to get bored after 5 or so hours
It's a job at the end of the day
After reading what you have said, I think you are in the wrong profession, And you do not seem to appreciate some who spend years acquiring an ATPL with their own money.
Most would bend over backwards to be in your seat.
And you say you get bored??
are we not all born with a 'Golden Spoon' in our mouths??
Totally different to going to an airline and paying them to fly an aeroplane for hours building! It is killing recruitment and any kind of sponsorship or help from airlines and the more people do it the worse it will get. Moral of the story it's a crazy thing to do to pay to work so DON'T DO IT.
I'm not trying to spoil people's illusions, I love what I do, don't get me wrong, but after sitting on a flight deck for 5 hours flying in airspace where air traffic is not particularly busy, with your feet getting more and more cold, it does get a little monotinous (if that is how it's spelt). It is just a job at the end of the day, and to pay to do that is complete and utter madness! + it's ruining the Ts&Cs for airline pilots a la Mr O'Leary!!
Oh dear Sin Bin, I can't believe what you are saying in the above text
'I applied for it but had no real plans to start it'
Useful for interview experience
Had 'some' sort of a job offer
It's a crazy thing to do to pay to work
I love what I do, But tends to get bored after 5 or so hours
It's a job at the end of the day
After reading what you have said, I think you are in the wrong profession, And you do not seem to appreciate some who spend years acquiring an ATPL with their own money.
Most would bend over backwards to be in your seat.
And you say you get bored??
are we not all born with a 'Golden Spoon' in our mouths??
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be gentle with sin bin.
i also used that mytravel thing for practice at a sim ride!
and having done 10 months of single pilot IFR (and 6 months of FI work) i can confirm that flying is very very boring - i still love it, but its boring! but i suspect my feet are normally colder in a 35yr old aztec!
i start flying the dash 8 next yr and look forward to a new challange, but i know after 12 months i will be bored of it and looking for a new challange!
to some up, dont expect to get straight on to a jet, whats the point, you'll be flying it for the next 40 yrs!!! so why not have some fun first, and save alot of money, and be a better pilot at the end of it!
AND FOR **** SAKE! DONT PAY TO FLY! YOU ARE ******* UP MY PLAN'S FOR A NEW CAR! DONT BE A DICK!
and i think ull find people get born with a silver spoon in there mouth! if ur parents had paid for u to go to private school ud know this!
i also used that mytravel thing for practice at a sim ride!
and having done 10 months of single pilot IFR (and 6 months of FI work) i can confirm that flying is very very boring - i still love it, but its boring! but i suspect my feet are normally colder in a 35yr old aztec!
i start flying the dash 8 next yr and look forward to a new challange, but i know after 12 months i will be bored of it and looking for a new challange!
to some up, dont expect to get straight on to a jet, whats the point, you'll be flying it for the next 40 yrs!!! so why not have some fun first, and save alot of money, and be a better pilot at the end of it!
AND FOR **** SAKE! DONT PAY TO FLY! YOU ARE ******* UP MY PLAN'S FOR A NEW CAR! DONT BE A DICK!
and i think ull find people get born with a silver spoon in there mouth! if ur parents had paid for u to go to private school ud know this!
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There is no silver spoon in my mouth I can tell you, do you think someone paid for my training for an ATPL? Truth be told is yes it was me! Modular, part time training whilst in a 9-5 for 7 + f**king yearsand then bugging an airline till I was blue in the face, so NO I HAVE NOT HAD IT EASY!!
Flying a jet is awesome for about 4 weeks, the novelty wears off as with everthing once you've done it a hunded times. At 35,000 feet flying in a straight line hours on end with computers doing everything for you and a view of clouds and not much else is not that exciting. It does get interesting when something is flying the other way 1000 ft below you closing at 900kts but they're on TCAS for about a minute and probably this happens 10 times in a flight if you're lucky.
This is the reality of flying an airliner! I am most certainly in the right profession thanks, wouldn't want to do anything else, but I could not pay to do this. Which was my point. I am living the dream and it has its moments but please don't pay to do this and f*** everyone else's careers in the process.
Sorry to spoil any illusions!! And sorry for the foul language but........
Flying a jet is awesome for about 4 weeks, the novelty wears off as with everthing once you've done it a hunded times. At 35,000 feet flying in a straight line hours on end with computers doing everything for you and a view of clouds and not much else is not that exciting. It does get interesting when something is flying the other way 1000 ft below you closing at 900kts but they're on TCAS for about a minute and probably this happens 10 times in a flight if you're lucky.
This is the reality of flying an airliner! I am most certainly in the right profession thanks, wouldn't want to do anything else, but I could not pay to do this. Which was my point. I am living the dream and it has its moments but please don't pay to do this and f*** everyone else's careers in the process.
Sorry to spoil any illusions!! And sorry for the foul language but........
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Have you seen my age? + I don't like deserts much!!
Adverse-bump, I tell you you're feet get cold in an Airbus. I switched the foot warmers on but they do bugger all! Apparently someone put a thermometer down there once and it was in single figures
Adverse-bump, I tell you you're feet get cold in an Airbus. I switched the foot warmers on but they do bugger all! Apparently someone put a thermometer down there once and it was in single figures
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Sinbin - on a tangent, but take your shoes off and put your feet on the metal foot warmer plates = works much better! Oohh and two pairs of socks...
One time we lost all trim air (hot air valve fault). My feet were both completely numb by the we landed.. I had trouble walking off the aircraft (lost cockpit zone reg).
One time we lost all trim air (hot air valve fault). My feet were both completely numb by the we landed.. I had trouble walking off the aircraft (lost cockpit zone reg).
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If some of you love so much flying at a point to work to pay.Try to get a taste of what the pilot life is:
book a flight for 1 week?, 4 legs a day...,
maybe pilots will tell you to go in their cockpit for a chat...
I can bet , after 2 legs, you want go home!!!
Keep your cash!
book a flight for 1 week?, 4 legs a day...,
maybe pilots will tell you to go in their cockpit for a chat...
I can bet , after 2 legs, you want go home!!!
Keep your cash!
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So to some up:
Airplanes are:
Cold
Boring for the most part
And for goodness sake, please stop paying to fly them, if your not good enough to get a job via the normal means like the rest of us then you shouldnt be flying!
And it really does up this industry for the rest of us, DONT PAY TO FLY!
Airplanes are:
Cold Boring for the most partAnd for goodness sake, please stop paying to fly them, if your not good enough to get a job via the normal means like the rest of us then you shouldnt be flying! And it really does
up this industry for the rest of us, DONT PAY TO FLY!
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Cold Feet!!
Cold feet in an Airbus! Suck it up princes, you want to try flying a 70's Navajo around Northern Canada, then you'll know what "cold feet" are.
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I come back to the subject...
Dear Pilots,
you must really stop this scam, i have at least 8 people who wrote me and told me it is not working well on their side.
once they have paid, over 20'000 dollars, they fly for a week or 2 days only, then they are on standby for any reason, and wait and wait, and wait...
unbelivable, ...then during this time, they call another pilots who have paid, and then, the company, play the exact same game with them,....nice way to fill their pockets,...
so good luck with your attorney, trying to get your money back.
oh, and by the way, don't tell me a company who ask money from their pilots is a good company, these companies have no cash and suck,they can file bankrupt at any time, and guess where your money will go...somewhere else than your pocket...
I got the idea to pay one of these companies in the past , but view the horror stories I have heared, I suggest you to stay away from these scamers, this includes strom aviation, eaglejet,atlasjet,indigo,...and keep ur cash
I have more real horror stories, I keep them for later.I don't want to destroy your holydays...
Dear Pilots,
you must really stop this scam, i have at least 8 people who wrote me and told me it is not working well on their side.
once they have paid, over 20'000 dollars, they fly for a week or 2 days only, then they are on standby for any reason, and wait and wait, and wait...
unbelivable, ...then during this time, they call another pilots who have paid, and then, the company, play the exact same game with them,....nice way to fill their pockets,...
so good luck with your attorney, trying to get your money back.
oh, and by the way, don't tell me a company who ask money from their pilots is a good company, these companies have no cash and suck,they can file bankrupt at any time, and guess where your money will go...somewhere else than your pocket...
I got the idea to pay one of these companies in the past , but view the horror stories I have heared, I suggest you to stay away from these scamers, this includes strom aviation, eaglejet,atlasjet,indigo,...and keep ur cash
I have more real horror stories, I keep them for later.I don't want to destroy your holydays...
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Oh my god,
I have to disagree SinBin, its bloody awesome, I am 8 months into it and its bloody great! You should be reading Part C .
Flying a jet is awesome for about 4 weeks, the novelty wears off
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I agree it is awesome at times, just done some of the longer routes that's all! Not so awesome but a little dull to be honest, especially the 321 if you catch my drift. ie no handflying except take off!! Still waiting on my 321 landing check ride you see. But if you read my posts again, it does have its moments, and i'd rather do nothing else. What I was trying to get across was that I wouldn't pay to do it.
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SinBin, when are you booked in for your A321 check? I did mine 3 weeks ago, really enjoyed flying that aircraft, could not believe how quiet it is.
I too have done some of the longer trips, and have found some of these new destinations quite incrediable, and has given me an oppotunity to see parts of the world I have never seen before.
Havent come across you int he crew yet, our paths must have crossed?
I too have done some of the longer trips, and have found some of these new destinations quite incrediable, and has given me an oppotunity to see parts of the world I have never seen before.
Havent come across you int he crew yet, our paths must have crossed?
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Paths should cross, may already have done so, not biggest company in the world, I don't mean to be down on stuff just got a lot on at the mo at home!!