PPR Guest 962

Hi mate, they currently use Southampton, Coventry and Hamilton for all ground school exams.

PPR Guest 962

Jobs are not allowed whilst under training as per the contract due to the intensity.

TheManFromThatPlace

Guys, the CTC course is nothing like as intense as they like to talk it up to be. ATPL exams are not the hardest thing in the world. Not by a long way. 5 months is plenty. If you need longer, ask yourself why. As for the flying ,8 months in NZ for 150 hours? Can someone please inform me as to how that can be classed as intensive? Then their MCC/JOC takes 3 weeks. Go anywhere else and you'll do it in 10 days! CTC; great for paying your way straight into the RHS. CTC; not intensive. Probably for those two reasons that it's so popular.

Bloated Stomach

TheManFromThatPlace you have no idea how intense it can be. Having done my CPL/IR and AQC with CTC, I can tell you it is very intense. The AQC is much more difficult than a type rating.

TheManFromThatPlace

I've been there and done it. I am fully aware of how "intense" or otherwise the workload is at CTC. I am also aware of how much the majority of the cadets there enjoy talking up the workload.

GAZ45

Hello all.

I am a modular graduate with a frozen ATPL. Recently graduated.

I am obviously applying to as many airlines as I can including Ryanair through the CAE online portal.

However, I have come across the following link on the CTC website:

Ryanair - Placement opportunities

It's Ryanair flexicrew opportunity. Quoted on the website:

"This opportunity is immediately open to pilots who have a valid EASA ‘Frozen ATPL’ obtained through CTC WINGS, CTC TAKEOFF or an alternative EASA Approved TrainingOrganisation (ATO)

Entry Criteria

Have a valid CPL(A) with an instrument rating on multi-engine aircraft (MEP/IR)
Have passed all 14 ATPL(A) Theoretical Knowledge examinations
Have a valid EASA FCL 3 Class 1 Medical
Have a comprehensive training organisation report.
Be prepared to obtain an Irish Aviation Authority (IAA) or EASA licence
Have the right to work freely within the European Union"

I have trained through an 'alternative EASA Approved TrainingOrganisation (ATO)'. Am I correct in thinking that I am eligible to apply to Ryanair through this application or am I missing something here?

Thanks in advance for any info

TheManFromThatPlace

You are right, you can apply to Ryanair through CTC. If you've already applied through CAE though then you might want to think about it a bit more...really a good idea applying through both? Maybe it'll double your chances! Just not sure myself.

GAZ45

themanfromthatplace,

Debated this myself. I have submitted an application through CAE. I have not yet done so through CTC. Although I did click the application and look at what information CTC require for you to apply. All I can say is that they ask for a lot more info.
As far as my knowledge goes; when you apply to Ryan thru CAE website directly, you are contacted for more information - presumably if the magic computer picks you out of the hat.
CTC are asking for all that info upfront - just as they do if you apply to Ryan through Oxford aviation if you are an Oxford integrated student.

I can't see it doing much harm doing both to be honest - but who knows? Pilot job selection is a mystery to all!

GAZ45

themanfromthatplace,

Called CTC. You can apply to Ryanair through their portal. But you must pay for and complete the CTC Airline Qualification Course (AQC) first - approx 10K.

Then they may put you forward for interview at Ryanair and a selection of other airlines. So it's slightly misleading to have a Ryanair application section of their website, because effectively it's just an application for their AQC programme.

TheManFromThatPlace

Haha, not surprised!! That is ridiculous though. The CTC AQC(although very good) is nothing more than an MCC/JOC like any other. Often it's done in just the fixed base 737 sim, not the fancy full motion A320 sims that you'll see on their website. 10k for that, for the possibility of being put forward for an interview? IMO makes more sense to do a regular MCC/JOC for 2/3k and apply through CAE, then if you really want to spend some more get an instructor rating.

GrobblySquirrel

I was hoping someone who has recently passed through CTC may be able to shed some light on the Security Bond.

I thought I understood how it worked having extensively read through this site, but having spoken to a CTC careers advisor I have now got myself fairly confused!

They claimed that if permanently employed by easyJet or BA upon successful completion of the Integrated ATPL program, you would receive not only a full base salary (38k for easy SO), but a tax free payment of £1000 per month for 69 months (to effectively pay of the 69,000 bond)

Now I appreciate this topic has been discussed to death, but I have heard no one state this is the case before and I am fairly sceptical of it to be honest!

I have heard that, on passing through the easy MPL programme for example, that you would receive the £1000 per month but your base salary would be reduced accordingly but havent seen anyone mention a full base salary plus repayments for those passing through the Integrated ATPL route.

Thanks in advance.

R T Jones

GrobblySquirrel,

having been through the system a few years ago, but I imagine its the same now. My salary is reduced by the amount of the bond being repaid to me. Example. My SFO salary is £45k, 9k less than a 'normal' SFO. That 9k is paid to be net of tax. You do save about 400 a month of tax, so its quite useful, but you do not get that 9k in addition to your salary.

byrondaf

GrobblySquirrel, RT Jones information is still correct. Currently on flexicrew contract, once we are on a permanent NEC with EZY, we can either take a full salary £40500 and forfeit the bond, or take a £28500 salary and receive £1000 tax free per month repayment. effectively reducing our tax by £3-400 a month.

ywcaptain

Hi everyone,
who is booked for the selection day on the 27th of november ?

SunsetSheepLandings

Hi all,

As you have all been through selection and survived I was wondering if any of you would mind giving me a few pointers.

What sort of things do you get asked in interview? And what's a good way of preparing? Ie. research etc?

I'm new to all this and would really appreciate some guidance, thanks

JaimieP

Hey guys, so I applied to CTC wings , and now need to take their assessment. Have any of you done this before? If so, what can I expect on the tests, and what is the best way to revise for it, and prepare. Thanks!

Flaplesslanding

First of all I just want to point out that there are a lot of posts about this exact subject-look through the CTC Cadets thread and that will answer a lot of your questions, both now and for the future.

To answer your question, expect a presentation from CTC, followed by group exercises and a maths/aptitude test. That completes the morning and you will then go to a competency based interview, ie. Tell me about a time you had to make a difficult decision/work in a team/delver results under pressure etc.

So, to prepare, as the FTE thread you posted on, get your mental maths up to speed. Practise the aptitude tests. There are various ones you can use-latestpilot jobs or skytest being but a couple-as with all things though you do get what you pay for... Also, think of examples from life that you can use to illustrate your motivation, ability to work under pressure and as a team.

Finally, I would strongly recommend you try and get on an airline course rather than the white tail route. That is by far the least risky route to an airline!

JaimieP

Is it possible to start the white tail route, and then be sponsored/picked up by an airline before completion?

Shawrey

The only one that I am aware of is the BA FPP when they require more cadets. Some were taken out before and after they finished the white tail route.

MattC123

I have read some conflicting material regarding the components that make up the aptitude tests at CTC. Some articles include mechanical reasoning whereas others exclude it.

If anyone could clarify this it would be very much appreciated!