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Perhaps because it will take a while to get the CTC guys online. By that time the summer seasons over and they would be overcrewed.
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When I say Cadets I mean that the TR courses offered by EZY are going to be for the Cadets and not for the ATPs at least the ones in Sept, 'cause there is a little queue of Cadets waiting for their training after the summer.
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income after tax etc.
Hey All
I am doing a bit of financial planning for the future with my bank
, and currently in the holding pool like the rest of you.
Does anyone know how much you would get paid after tax and health insurance etc. each month if we end up at Easy,taking into account flightpay etc? I got less than 1500 hours so will be joining as FO. I know we donīt get paid more than 1000Ģ during linetraining
I am not from Uk so that is the reason for asking?
thanks guys
regards Jesper
I am doing a bit of financial planning for the future with my bank
, and currently in the holding pool like the rest of you.Does anyone know how much you would get paid after tax and health insurance etc. each month if we end up at Easy,taking into account flightpay etc? I got less than 1500 hours so will be joining as FO. I know we donīt get paid more than 1000Ģ during linetraining
I am not from Uk so that is the reason for asking?
thanks guys
regards Jesper
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Try www.ppjn.com, you will find the pay scales on there.
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My mistake. How about:-
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UK_tax_system
The numbers, you'll have to crunch yourself.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UK_tax_system
The numbers, you'll have to crunch yourself.
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Jesper,
I joined as an ATP into easyJet last year. Also from outside the UK and with less then 1500 hours, so starting as a junior first officer (two stripes).
After tax it leaves on average 2700 pounds into my account, that is including an average months worth of sector pay. This is all after tax, not bad he!?
Of course, the first six months you are on the 1000 allowance (taxfree) and no sector pay either. Hope this helps! Fokkertje
I joined as an ATP into easyJet last year. Also from outside the UK and with less then 1500 hours, so starting as a junior first officer (two stripes).
After tax it leaves on average 2700 pounds into my account, that is including an average months worth of sector pay. This is all after tax, not bad he!?
Of course, the first six months you are on the 1000 allowance (taxfree) and no sector pay either. Hope this helps! Fokkertje
Try this page - very useful little site; works it all out for you:
http://www.listentotaxman.com/
Think starting salary is Ģ36000 after line training. Just stick in the gross income and it will tell you how much salary you'll get per month.
http://www.listentotaxman.com/
Think starting salary is Ģ36000 after line training. Just stick in the gross income and it will tell you how much salary you'll get per month.
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Thats a great web site! Can't help putting in that potential captains salary! Seems to help me swim!!
Advert in the back of Flight International this week for Easyjet. Still looking for experienced guys with.....
You must hold a JAA or UK frozen/unfrozen ATPL and MCC and have a minimum total experience 500 hours multi-crew commercial experience ranging from medium/heavy turboprop to medium/heavy jets or military background (heavy transport, fast jet or multi crew rotary).
They also say....
Our pilot recruitment needs for 2007 have now been met and we are anticipating that further course spaces will not be available until at least November 2007, from which time they will resume again on a monthly basis.
We would, however, be delighted to receive applications as these will be held against potential assessment activity later in the year. If your application matches our entry requirements, (including those around our specific fleet and base needs), we will contact you about the timing of this activity but we are currently anticipating a timeframe of several months between receipt of your application and assessment invitation.
So nothing too exciting for us really. Just info but maybe signs of possible iminent movement? Brightened my day!
So now I'll try a bit of backstroke me thinks!!!!
Advert in the back of Flight International this week for Easyjet. Still looking for experienced guys with.....
You must hold a JAA or UK frozen/unfrozen ATPL and MCC and have a minimum total experience 500 hours multi-crew commercial experience ranging from medium/heavy turboprop to medium/heavy jets or military background (heavy transport, fast jet or multi crew rotary).
They also say....
Our pilot recruitment needs for 2007 have now been met and we are anticipating that further course spaces will not be available until at least November 2007, from which time they will resume again on a monthly basis.
We would, however, be delighted to receive applications as these will be held against potential assessment activity later in the year. If your application matches our entry requirements, (including those around our specific fleet and base needs), we will contact you about the timing of this activity but we are currently anticipating a timeframe of several months between receipt of your application and assessment invitation.
So nothing too exciting for us really. Just info but maybe signs of possible iminent movement? Brightened my day!
So now I'll try a bit of backstroke me thinks!!!!
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I've dug out the old rubber coated brick, reminded myself how to make a life jacket out of PJ's and started stitching old badges back onto the towel.
Lets look at it honestly though. Aviation is still growing strongly, it's just the summer season and noone should be too surprised about the summr slow down r.e. hiring. Some info would be nice but ho hum
Lets look at it honestly though. Aviation is still growing strongly, it's just the summer season and noone should be too surprised about the summr slow down r.e. hiring. Some info would be nice but ho hum
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A question
If the proposed mergers of MyTravel /Thomas Cook and First Choice /TUI go through, generally when airlines merge this leads to a streamlining of aircraft and crews i.e redundancy (as History shows!)
If redundancies occour at the end of this summer with an excess of type rated and highly expeienced drivers on the job market where does this leave the swimmers?
Monarch are presently only looking for experieced drivers as Troy pointed out, not swimmers. (The holdpool has pleanty of fish available to bite, but they are not yet fishing in the pool. Forgot their license?)
easyJet by their own admission have stated that they have over recruited and will not be looking until the end of the year at the earliest and if redundancy has come due to the above mergers they are going to have plenty of experienced pilots that they can look at first, who may not require type rating and then line training, only the mininum sectors required. Ultimately saving the company money (Keeping the accountants happy)
CTC have now closed the present scheme- do they know something about the market place at the minute and are keeping quiet. Are they waiting to see what happens in the job market if these mergers do go through and they let some experienced crews go?
How long can you swim for with no real info?
If the proposed mergers of MyTravel /Thomas Cook and First Choice /TUI go through, generally when airlines merge this leads to a streamlining of aircraft and crews i.e redundancy (as History shows!)
If redundancies occour at the end of this summer with an excess of type rated and highly expeienced drivers on the job market where does this leave the swimmers?
Monarch are presently only looking for experieced drivers as Troy pointed out, not swimmers. (The holdpool has pleanty of fish available to bite, but they are not yet fishing in the pool. Forgot their license?)
easyJet by their own admission have stated that they have over recruited and will not be looking until the end of the year at the earliest and if redundancy has come due to the above mergers they are going to have plenty of experienced pilots that they can look at first, who may not require type rating and then line training, only the mininum sectors required. Ultimately saving the company money (Keeping the accountants happy)
CTC have now closed the present scheme- do they know something about the market place at the minute and are keeping quiet. Are they waiting to see what happens in the job market if these mergers do go through and they let some experienced crews go?
How long can you swim for with no real info?
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Lack of info is a very poor show indeed. Does anybody fancy telling them because they obviously don't read this thread? Perhaps we are all too scared about being put to the back of the pool as punishment for our complaint or perhaps we are just too English to complain?!?! I can't believe they don't realise how long and painful the silence is for us.
Who is more pathetic? Them for not updating us or us for not telling them, as paying customers, we need info?
Who is more pathetic? Them for not updating us or us for not telling them, as paying customers, we need info?
Surely it's unlikely crews will be laid off as a result of the mergers, though there may be a few freed from their contracts that will look elsewhere for something better?
Any job losses will be in management etc unless aeroplanes are going to be shelved and that's unlikely in the current market.
Sure, there'll be a slow down in recruitment while they sort themselves out, but these are mergers between growing airlines, not takeovers of bankrupt ones.
bigjarv: cheer yourself up even more by putting flybe's TP FO salary into aforementioned website...
And then keep your fingers crossed that we get a call during the current tax year - would be nice get more than that tax free allowance this year for a change....
Any job losses will be in management etc unless aeroplanes are going to be shelved and that's unlikely in the current market.
Sure, there'll be a slow down in recruitment while they sort themselves out, but these are mergers between growing airlines, not takeovers of bankrupt ones.
bigjarv: cheer yourself up even more by putting flybe's TP FO salary into aforementioned website...
And then keep your fingers crossed that we get a call during the current tax year - would be nice get more than that tax free allowance this year for a change....
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regarding the ezy saab's - ha ha ha... that is total bollocks! trust me
& the reason the rate of people has slowed/stopped is because all the courses have been filled upto sept at the moment.
& the reason the rate of people has slowed/stopped is because all the courses have been filled upto sept at the moment.
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cheer yourself up even more by putting flybe's TP FO salary into aforementioned website...
How elitist.
I hope you don't end up eating your words Troy.
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Well I have to say _pudknocker_ that is one of the the most sensible posts on this thread I have read yet. Thinking about it CTC, they would not want the scheme selected well rounded individuals to be putting all there eggs into one basket.
Guys there are jobs out there, "swimming around" as you put it is a waste of valueable time. There are other ways of getting a job. Spread your eggs guys!
Good on you _pudknocker_ spot on post.
Guys there are jobs out there, "swimming around" as you put it is a waste of valueable time. There are other ways of getting a job. Spread your eggs guys!
Good on you _pudknocker_ spot on post.
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Yup! Damned right!! Especially those of you in the pool in front of me, you guys should really "spread your eggs". I mean there are tons of jobs out there. Better still just drop out the pool before you have found another job. That shows real commitment to a potential employer!!!!
Tee Hee!
Tee Hee!
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Good point Shaun
Maybe it's those guys that have been working for flybe and not waiting in the hold pool that have been used to fill Ezy pilot requirements!!
I myself know of plenty of ex Tprop drivers that are filling jobs at Ezy/TCook and BA.
Maybe it's those guys that have been working for flybe and not waiting in the hold pool that have been used to fill Ezy pilot requirements!!
I myself know of plenty of ex Tprop drivers that are filling jobs at Ezy/TCook and BA.
Shaun,
flybe comment was a private joke with bigjarv. He knows what I was getting at......
CTC seems best bet all round; I for one am happy to take a chance on it working out - just a matter of when.
Troy.
flybe comment was a private joke with bigjarv. He knows what I was getting at......
CTC seems best bet all round; I for one am happy to take a chance on it working out - just a matter of when.
Troy.
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Hey Troy, no offence was meant by my last post mate. As said by Roller, you may be missing out, I know that some of the jobs out there dont pay the best. But would you rather be flying or crying??
I hope that I see some of you guys on the line soon. Good luck!
I hope that I see some of you guys on the line soon. Good luck!