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Old 11th Jul 2006, 12:19
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GB Airways Approved Pilot Scheme

GB Airways have launched a similar sponsorship deal to the one Flybe did with FTE.

Go to www.flighttrainingeurope.com and click on the link to GB to fill out the initial application form!

Anyone have any more details regarding this scheme?!?!

Good luck to all those who apply
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Old 11th Jul 2006, 12:44
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On the GB Airways website, ppjn.com and according to FTE themselves it is stated that GB Airways regularly take cadets from FTE. Then explain to me how this is different? It's not different. It's just clever marketing highlighting the links between FTE and GB Airways. And this kind of proves it... (A true scheme would emphasise the need to start on a particular date along with all the "selected" cadets)

Course Start Dates

As you will see in the application form, you are asked to indicate your preferred course start date. There are three options; the alternatives are November 2006 and January and February 2007. We will do our best to give successful candidates their preferred choice of date but cannot guarantee that this will always be the case.
On top of that any mention of a job at the end is even more scarce than the schemes for FlyBE and BA-CON. Mind you GB Airways do pay a sensible starting salary (according to PPJN starting is 36k).
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Old 11th Jul 2006, 17:53
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Talking :)

If successful throughout the training and a vacancy exists, no further selection will be required by the Airline, you will flow straight into a type rating course. If a vacancy is not immediately available you might be placed in a holding pool until a vacancy becomes available.
Thats the same deal for flybe, OAT TC, TF etc....i also noticed that graduates from OAT have been hired by TC and they were not on the approved scheme...

A true scheme would emphasise the need to start on a particular date along with all the "selected" cadets)
Why is FB doing three courses this year? Maybe like FB, GB are in need of a large quantity of low houred pilots? and thus 3 courses....who knows..

... too many haters these days....
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Old 11th Jul 2006, 18:28
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It's all very expensive - £65k....I wonder if any actual sponsorship will ever return? The market is in great shape just now, so surely some form of sponsorship will have to return?

What I find strange is that far from things getting better for wannabes with an improving market, it actually continues to get worse. For example, when the CTC scheme first started, you got £5k from the airline to help with living expenses. The course cost £60k.

Now you don't get £5k, and you have to pay for the foundation course i.e. the cost of a PPL...on top of the £60k

Then you have to pay for the right to go to selection. Such a joke - can you imagine an investment bank charging you for their selection?

I have been trying to explain all this to friends and they simply can't believe it - they actually thought I was joking. When they realised I wasn't they enquired "why would anyone be so daft as to apply to one of these scheme's?".....good question
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I wonder if any actual sponsorship will ever return? The market is in great shape just now
Not if people keep paying for training!
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Old 11th Jul 2006, 21:01
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I applied and just heard back today, with surprise surprise, 8 questions to answer, remarkably similar to the flybe maps questions

Will give it a shot anyway (it's just finding the time to sit down and answer the questions right now )
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Who has been selected onto the GB Airways Sponsorship Scheme?

Hello All,

I'm one of the candidates on the GB Airways sponsorship scheme run through FTE. I'm trying to contact all of those on the programme. I'm selected for the February course but am interested to hear from those on the November course.
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Good luck to the cadets - wish I'd had the opportunity. Securing the job is worth its weight in gold these days.
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Securing the job is worth its weight in gold these days.
Good job, because people will pay there weight in gold to get one!

These schemes are not sponsorship. They are a monitoring process at best. If the airlines can get people to pay for the most expensive training without it costing them a penny, or without any risk, then why would they choose any other method. Integrated schools fill themselves on the back of such schemes without a care for where your money comes from.

What do you get? a job, possibly, but also potentially more debt than other routes would have cost. You may also not get the job if you don't perform all the time with first time passes in everything, or the airlines simply do not want anyone when you graduate.

I have no axe to grind, just think people should be a little more aware of the realities.
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Wish I had seen the advert when it came out as I would have considered applying!! Oh well, next time maybe!
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GB FTE Scheme Summer/Winter 2007

Some of you may have noticed that GB Airways are doing another set of 'sponsorship' schemes. For those of you who have successfully started their GB airways scheme, I was wondering if you wouldn't mind telling us what is involved in the two stages that you are required to go to Gatwick for, should you be successful?

Many thanks,
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Hopefully I will be able to apply tomorrow if I receive an answer to a question from FTE. Again, any information on the day at Gatwick would be appreciated

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really dont understand the point of asking for a science a-level!!! Fair enough if they ask for physics, but I havent got a science a-level. If I had biology is that really going to make the difference in getting to the next stage..seems utterly pointless
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Think I have to agree with you newbie 008. I quite recently finished the course in Jerez and I have no science A Level and no Maths A Level and was therefore unable to apply to these "approved schemes". It made absolutely no difference to my time in Jerez whatsoever, nor to my subsequent employment.

I think it is purely a mechanism to reduce the number of applications to a manageable level, which doesn't seem very fair.

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Old 23rd May 2007, 11:53
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Do the airline make money? Applying to this scheme does raise some questions - what happens if GB are bought out by another airline?
They currently face some very serious competition at Gatwick from the likes of easyJet and thomsonfly which fly many of the same routes...BA's other franchise (BMED) has just been bought by Bmi after its major shareholders refused to inject more money into a loss-making airline.
GB's future doesn't appear that clear to me...if anyone could shed some light...
Of course, there are plenty of other things to think about other than whether the company will still exist 18 months from now, but given the investment required, I think it's a fair question.
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newbie and veetwo, I was under the impression that Physics is classed as a 'science based A level', so if you've got one of them, put it down! And I'm sure it's more the skills you acquire from studying a science subject, e.g. logic and analysis, than the actual subject itself which is important to the airline.

I understand it's difficult for wannabes who don't have the academic qualifications to land a place on a scheme like these, even though they may be much stronger in other relevant areas, but when there are so many of us out there that are equally desperate for the job, they've got to cut the numbers down somehow.

I hate to sound arrogant saying this, but to let someone who doesn't have shining academics into the highly sought-after right hand seat to the detriment of others who have worked hard to obtain qualifications, really just undermines all that hard work that they have put in. What is a certificate worth if it's not going to get you some recognition for your efforts? Just like with any job in the entire world, if you don't have the right qualifications, no cigar for you! I've learnt from applying to multiple other jobs that wanting the position isn't enough - you have to earn it somehow.

Sorry if that sounded like a rant - I don't mean to offend you in saying this. Besides, I'm sure you're both intelligent guys/girls who know all this already.

Good luck for your applications anyway - and everyone else!
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think you mistook my point..I know physics is a science! I was saying what is the point of only allowing those with a science a-level to apply. I could understand if they requested physics a-level, but why science??What the hell does biology have in common with flying, yet if I had a biology a-level I could apply. I dont have a science a-level hence my rant at only accepting people with this.Physics and maths fair enough, but just science seems pointless, flybe dont ask for anything like this
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Ah right - I getcha. Sorry about that. I misunderstood.

I suppose my point about the skills you learn doing a science subject being valuable still stands though.
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newbie, its not the knowledge of biology i would imagine. as AJMcC says i think its more about the logic, analysis, type of scientific thinking required more so than you would get from say a history, art, french A level which would require a completely different type of analysis and thinking. All of the sciences especially physics and chemistry involve quite a lot of mathematics too.
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I applied to this scheme a couple of days ago, but got knocked back because i was one a - level short and even hold a degree in an aerospace related subject(received the e-mail a couple of days ago). I recently took part in the flybe scheme and managed to progress through to stage 4 however not even past this stage for this scheme! Imo. very silly - there was not even any question about holding a degree.

All the best to everyone who gets through to the next stage as im sure it will be a very good scheme to get accepted onto.

many thanks

dan
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